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2014-09-02 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

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Posted by badanov 2014-09-02 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 It's a highly organized spontaneous uprising. With a logistical trail 500km long.

Posted by ed in texas 2014-09-02 07:24|| 2014-09-02 07:24|| Front Page Top

#2 Pretty damn well done ground OB Badanov. Anyone seen a Russian Air Force OB? If not, why not? Might Vlad be reluctant to chance a NATO air engagement? Comments ?

Posted by Besoeker 2014-09-02 09:08|| 2014-09-02 09:08|| Front Page Top

#3 A lot of these units appear to be from places like Chechnya, Dagestan and Ossetia. Are the troops themselves from those regions? If so, what does that mean? Is Vlad sending second and third stringers to do the dirty work? Is he giving them a chance to prove their loyalty? Or is he just holding the ethnic Russian boys in reserve? Didn't he follow a similar pattern in Georgia?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-09-02 11:39|| 2014-09-02 11:39|| Front Page Top

#4 "That's an awful lot of firepower for a rescue mission."

Posted by DarthVader 2014-09-02 15:33|| 2014-09-02 15:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Pretty damn well done ground OB Badanov. Anyone seen a Russian Air Force OB? If not, why not? Might Vlad be reluctant to chance a NATO air engagement? Comments ?

Every military district can field around 350 combat aircraft, if they are fully mobilized.

Additionally, you have to consider Russian Air Defense Command (PVO) which is a separate branch, which fields both ground antiaircraft means and interceptor aircraft necessary to defeat air threats.

Also additionally, you have to consider naval aviation, some of which is based at Sevastopol, and others in ponds such as the Caspian.

I have no hard data on available aircraft. Most of the ground interdiction airframes are part of frontal aviation, while air superiority aircraft are part of PVO.

We have had a discussion in the O-club about this very matter, albeit just the ground OOB.

My contention is that Putin has yet to mobilize any part of his ground forces, and is currently using GHQ units, which in a war would be operating as parts of fronts (which are military districts upon mobilization) and armies. You'll notice that the only divisions available are the airborne divisions. I also contend that the only units fully staffed and ready for war are the airborne units. Everything else (read; divisions) in order to be fielded must be filled with reservists and fillers.

Putin appears to be doing the same thing he did in South Ossetia. Rounding up any yahoos they can find, stuff them inside a BMP, tell them they are spetsnaz, and to go stop a bullet for Mother Russia, while regular troops wait for their chance to move in. IOW, he's doing this all on the cheap. His forces, as large as they are are in no way ready for war.

Before you get a peaceful, easy feeling about all that understand that in the late 1930s, no one was ready for war, not even Herr Hitler, but to war they went in 1939.

This is similar to what our parents and grandparent saw back in the 1930.

Just my two kopeks...

Posted by badanov 2014-09-02 16:38|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-09-02 16:38|| Front Page Top

#6 Inclined to agree with Badanov, to bring so many different units means either Russia is cherry picking people from the individual MRB's to form something resembling a trained unit or it is getting some field/combat experience to units, officers and long service NCO's to build brigades and divisions around.

Posted by Chantry 2014-09-02 18:23|| 2014-09-02 18:23|| Front Page Top

Posted by Jerkface Killa 2014-09-02 18:34|| 2014-09-02 18:34|| Front Page Top

#8 ^^ Bleat of the sheep. Same intelligence

Posted by Frank G 2014-09-02 18:52|| 2014-09-02 18:52|| Front Page Top

#9 [jerky on deterrence; also this gem: "I-CHI-WAH-WAH"]

To jaw-jaw is better than war-war,
Especially for a chihuahua;
To posture and snap
Is more fun than to scrap --
Just like our Canadian Haw-Haw!

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-09-02 19:04|| 2014-09-02 19:04|| Front Page Top

#10 Jerkface Killa = wanker

Posted by JohnQC 2014-09-02 19:05|| 2014-09-02 19:05|| Front Page Top

#11 #10 Jerkface Killa = wanker

Squeaked Jerky, inspecting a chancre,
"I wonder if it was the banker?
Or was it the soldier,
Or Red Eric Holder,
Or maybe my darling First Shanker?"

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-09-02 19:19|| 2014-09-02 19:19|| Front Page Top

#12 You're becoming a national treasure, ZenFlo.

Posted by SteveS 2014-09-02 19:22|| 2014-09-02 19:22|| Front Page Top

#13 Jerkface Killa = pillow biter? Say it ain't so, Zo!

Posted by Frank G 2014-09-02 19:55|| 2014-09-02 19:55|| Front Page Top

#14 "They say that I'm biting the pillow.
They don't know my real peccadillo:
The cause of this lesion
On my hiney region
Is Hansen's from my armadillo."

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-09-02 20:12|| 2014-09-02 20:12|| Front Page Top

#15 LMAO! Come for the news fix, stay for the limericks.

Posted by RandomJD 2014-09-02 20:19|| 2014-09-02 20:19|| Front Page Top

#16 And speaking of NOLA...

That lump that you think is a snow cone
Can never compare to the touchstone:
When it gets hot outside,
Dihydrogen oxide
Is coldest in Hansen's Sno-Bliz zone.

Sorry for pissing on your awesome article, badanov.

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-09-02 20:29|| 2014-09-02 20:29|| Front Page Top

#17 Moar NOLA rhymes pls.

Like:

Ossifer be a dear,
And hold muh beer,
While I look for muh
Shoes which must be near.

Posted by Shipman 2014-09-02 20:41|| 2014-09-02 20:41|| Front Page Top

#18 :o)

Posted by badanov 2014-09-02 20:42|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-09-02 20:42|| Front Page Top

#19 Ah, sweet NOLA! To eat fried dough in the most corrupt city on earth...

Posted by SteveS 2014-09-02 21:36|| 2014-09-02 21:36|| Front Page Top

#20 Ossifer

Man, that's beautiful. Surprise and delight.

Moar NOLA rhymes

Cheese-n-grits, put a brother on the spot! Limericks from beneath the ~~scab~~ scar. But I'll try.

A dude at the Y at Lee Circle,
When cured of a painful tubercle,
Repented his sin:
"Yankees might come again,
But next time I won't catch nothing hurtful."

A drunk is staring down the well.
An hour back, he's feeling swell;
Now raucous laughter sounds his knell.
How many cops? "He slipped and fell!"

The Snowball Prize? I would bestow it
Posthumously down on Bordeaux at
Uptown Tchoupitoulas
Where all of the coolest
Kids eat mint and coffee (and know it).

Lemme chant a ballade to incense ya
Of a house on Valence called... Valencia!
If a debutante steps
Through its door with those preps,
She may later long for dementia.

Posted by Zenobia Floger6220 2014-09-02 21:51|| 2014-09-02 21:51|| Front Page Top

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