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2024-09-01 Arabia

Saudi Arabia arrests 20,718 illegal migrants in one week

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Posted by Anon1 2024-09-01 06:38|| || Front Page|| [11136 views ] Top
File under: Govt of Saudi Arabia

#1 They do this every few years. Its a way to get rid of the asian maids. The families kick them out or they go work for another family and not pay their tax for the pleasure of being a slave in Saudi.

Posted by 49 Pan 2024-09-01 10:35|| 2024-09-01 10:35|| Front Page Top

#2 Sorry, but knowing first hand how the SAG functions, this article gets it wrong. 1) they are NOT migrants. They are workers brought in for work. They came in willingly. 2) They did NOT illegally enter the country. They illegally overstay their work visa. They have NOT left the country when they should have. 3) The vast majority continue to work for either their sponsor or others who can't be bothered to pay the market rate for workers. Thus these overstayers impact the economy by lowering the market's normal pay rate. Thus making it difficult of legally functioning companies/families to justify paying what it actually costs to import, house, and return manual labor. Remember 99% of these people are manual labor. They aren't petroleum engineers or software programers. They literarily are brick layers, carpenters, bulldozer drivers and street sweepers (have I forgotten a particular category you personally experienced when visiting the Kingdom?). Also they burden the medical system. Third they really do live in terrible conditions, particularly if it's summer ÀND Ramadan simultaneously. Try living in an unairconditioned hovel in Hofuf or Al Kharg or Buraidah. None the less these folks overstay willingly and are illegally remaining in the Kingdom. It expensive to pay for airline seats to fly 20 thousand people overseas, plus the policing effort to round them up, house them and do all this extra work when they should have willingly left under their own or their sponsors cost in the first place. It's not a perfect world, but Saudi does offer ages that continue to attract willing labor to leave their families for mostly 2 to 5 years at a time and not return each year for an annual vacation. These works basically leave home for 5 years at a go and make decent wage. Enough to both send lots back home to their family and still enough to try and overstay when their visa expires. Anybody here have actual; experience with this issue other pertinent information? (that's not hearsay).

Posted by Jumbo Grease7837 2024-09-01 15:17|| 2024-09-01 15:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Useful perspective, gentlemen. Thank you.

No personal experience with life as a big company American expat trailing spouse in the Third World, Jumbo Grease7837, but what I’ve been told by others of my class about household servants (cooks, maids, nannies, drivers, gardeners) in Saudi and the Philippines, which no doubt applies elsewhere: it’s hard to find someone who speaks English and even can read/write a bit. The odds are high they’ll need a lot of training to accept and perform to First World standards — one friend is a house husband-cum-Eagle Scout (I know, I know, but it’s true!) who discovered he had to teach not only his own native household guard to actually use the gun he’d been issued, but all the other guards in their Caracas neighbourhood as well — so this class of servant, whether imported or domestic, is generally well paid and is found a new employer when one is transferred elsewhere. Ditto for hiring someone they recommend as able or trainable — both to keep your people happy and to increase the number of such people available for the other expats.

There are always stories about how the locals abuse their servants, whether domestic or imported, and too many stories of expats taking undue advantage of them, too. Mr. Wife and I talked about it before I hired my first au pair girl — the university classmate of one of his local PhD staffers — and then I formally sat her down and explained that no one was entitled to those kinds of services from her, and she was to tell me if anyone tried so that I could handle the situation, because none of my people are ever expected to allow themselves to be abused.

All of this is different than underpaid over-stayers working for locals, but I moved in different circles back in the day.

Posted by trailing wife 2024-09-01 17:39|| 2024-09-01 17:39|| Front Page Top

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