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2005-09-01 Britain

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Posted by Dan Darling 2005-09-01 01:04|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Don't expect anything sensible from Guardian readers.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2005-09-01 02:39|| 2005-09-01 02:39|| Front Page Top

#2 In reality, do we really need/expect regrets?

The lack of emphathy is more a reflection of them than us. My donation is in, may double it.

Posted by Captain America 2005-09-01 02:55|| 2005-09-01 02:55|| Front Page Top

#3 Same old whinge, different day.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-09-01 03:22|| 2005-09-01 03:22|| Front Page Top

#4 I think the headline should read, UK Media Indifferent to US Plight.

Posted by phil_b 2005-09-01 05:06|| 2005-09-01 05:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Oh, I suspect much of the British populace is equally indifferent, if not quietly satisfied.

Anti-american kneejerk reactions have been spreading throughout Europe for several decades. I encountered it in the 80s and 90s ... resentment of the Americans in joint businesses, or quiet condescension if not rudeness in stores etc.

I am so deeply angry about the state it's reached that it's beyond words for me now. They can all go phuck themselves royally -- and I'll be damned if I'll let them hedge me/us in with EU rules either.

It's not just Phrance and the Heil Leisure guys in Germany. It's Britain too and as far as I am concerned they're all a lost cause.

Posted by Omerens Omaigum2983 2005-09-01 05:24|| 2005-09-01 05:24|| Front Page Top

#6 Look, really, what's to be surprised about? We always end up digging ourselves out alone whenever there is a tragedy in the US.

For example, do you really think that pissy little UN guy from Norway is going to go off about "stingy" nations not donating enough to our relief efforts? Me neither.

9/11 had some sympathy from the world, but precious little material assistance. The carping about how we deserved it began within days. I didn't expect anything different this time.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2005-09-01 07:54|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 07:54|| Front Page Top

#7 What is there downside? We sold food to the Soviets and offered aid to the Iranians after their earthquack. If we help our enemies you can be damn sure we'll be there when our friends need us even if they disrespect us.

And we don't need their sympathy or their aid. What we do need is for them to fight the war on terror in their own little corner of Europe. They seem to be doing that these days. I hope they stay focused.

Posted by rjschwarz">rjschwarz 2005-09-01 10:09|| 2005-09-01 10:09|| Front Page Top

#8 When you consider the mass of US commerce that transits NO and the Gulf Coast, we are about to get an economic impact that will be uncomfortable at best. However, the world is going to really suffer as a consequence, something that hasn't hit them yet. They generally haven't grasped yet how closely their fate is tied to ours. They are about to.

Posted by Slereger Slitle6846 2005-09-01 10:11|| 2005-09-01 10:11|| Front Page Top

#9 The grain harvest is due in the next few weeks. It usually comes down the Mississippi, where the port had the necessary grain elevators etc. for exporting it, both to sell and as aid.

Right you are about impacts ....

Posted by lotp 2005-09-01 10:15|| 2005-09-01 10:15|| Front Page Top

#10 History 101 - Why did Jefferson buy Louisiana? Because he understood that the trans-Appalachian regions of the US needed a port at the end of the Ohio-Mississippi [and soon to be added Missouri] river complex by which bulk commerce could move. That is true today as it was in Jefferson's day over two hundred years ago.

As lotp points out the fall grain harvest is due soon. Any country or region that is a grain importer [like Europe] is now faced with throughput shortage. Sort of like when when a refinery planet goes down. Mechanical problems create a shortage. The price of grain is going to driven up, just like gas. Grain is going to have to be locally stored to await its turn in the limited transit system or be further transported increasing costs. Food prices are going to rise for a lot of people in the world. This is just one of the commodities that transited NO and the Gulf Coast.

Posted by Slereger Slitle6846 2005-09-01 10:37|| 2005-09-01 10:37|| Front Page Top

#11 The grain harvest is due in the next few weeks. It usually comes down the Mississippi, where the port had the necessary grain elevators etc. for exporting it, both to sell and as aid.

And as I read in some article someplace (can't remember where), southbound shipping traffic on the Mississippi has been stopped at Cape Girardeau.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-09-01 11:04|| 2005-09-01 11:04|| Front Page Top

#12 southbound shipping traffic on the Mississippi has been stopped at Cape Girardeau.

They just slow down there to pay respects to Rushbo's birthplace.

Posted by Mrs. Davis 2005-09-01 11:09|| 2005-09-01 11:09|| Front Page Top

#13 Cape Girardeau is above where the Ohio enters the Mississippi, isn't it? Where's Ohio traffic being stopped?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-09-01 11:11|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-09-01 11:11|| Front Page Top

#14 The last time there was a grain emergency - 1978? These suckers were brought out of retirement. Fireup the Centennials....

DDA40X-6900

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-01 11:19|| 2005-09-01 11:19|| Front Page Top

#15 I must say, I found the outpouring of sympathy from the people of Thailand especially heartwarming.

Posted by BH 2005-09-01 11:22|| 2005-09-01 11:22|| Front Page Top

#16 Cape Girardeau is a little bit north of the Ohio junction. They're probably stopping Ohio River traffic at Cairo, Il or Paducah KY

How much can be rerouted via the Great Lakes?

And just where does the term "whinge" come from? It sounds like a cross between "whine" and 'cringe."

Posted by mom 2005-09-01 11:25|| 2005-09-01 11:25|| Front Page Top

#17 I must say, I found the outpouring of sympathy from the people of Thailand especially heartwarming.

I'm expecting to hear -- probably on Saturday -- of all sorts of heartwarming sentiments from the mosques of Indonesia.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2005-09-01 11:36|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-09-01 11:36|| Front Page Top

#18 Why is anyone surprised here? Florida got hit with -- what was it? four? -- hurricanes last year. We get earthquakes and wildfires and blizzards and crap all the time. If the British laid wreaths every time something like that happened, the US embassy be knee-deep in flowers, all the time. Man up, you pansies.

9/11 and the London bombies were catastrophies of an entirely different order. What we got here is a bunch of sniggering Canadians trying to prove something by reading the Guardian, fer Gawd's sake.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-09-01 12:02|| http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]">[http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 12:02|| Front Page Top

#19 Man up, you pansies.

Well said Angie. That one is going on my hardhat. The show must go on. Play hurt.

Posted by Zpaz 2005-09-01 12:31|| 2005-09-01 12:31|| Front Page Top

#20 It isn't about "manning up", it's about playing by the same rules. If the world wants to say "F*ck you" when the US has a problem, that's fine. We can handle it. But don't be in such a frickin hurry to spend MY money the next time East Bumfuckadoria gets nailed by a typhoon. Maybe we could put Angie on tv to tell them "Man up, you pansies."

Posted by BH 2005-09-01 12:37|| 2005-09-01 12:37|| Front Page Top

#21 If the world wants to say "F*ck you" when the US has a problem, that's fine.

Personally, I don't think we need their help. We have plenty of money, equipment, and expertise right here. The problems right now are logistics and bureaucratic bumbling, and foreign assistance is not going to eliminate those.

Furthermore, I don't really want to hear later how France sent us a couple of cases of Perrier when we needed it, so we should play along when they want our cooperation on some boneheaded French idea.

I'm glad we're rich enough to toss East Bumfuckadoria a few bucks when necessary, which makes them beholden to us (though as you point out they don't always see it that way). That's the situation to be in.

Posted by Angie Schultz 2005-09-01 13:37|| http://darkblogules.blogspot.com]">[http://darkblogules.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 13:37|| Front Page Top

#22 I agree with everything you said. I just think that somebody has to point out the discrepancy. If it makes people feel better to send their own money to E. B., go for it. I just think we could throw all the tsunami aid into a pit and set it on fire, for all the good it did. A policy of mutual disinterest might be best for everyone.

Posted by BH 2005-09-01 14:04|| 2005-09-01 14:04|| Front Page Top

#23 The world is reminded that they don't have enough dough to help us thru 1 week. Meanwhile the tidal wave is handled thru Uncles pocket change and excess amphibious forces.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-01 14:51|| 2005-09-01 14:51|| Front Page Top

#24 It's better to tend bar in the French Quarter with a shutter gun and knee deep in swamp water than to live the PC EU Socialist Slave life.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-01 14:54|| 2005-09-01 14:54|| Front Page Top

#25 I may have spoken too soon.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,168203,00.html

Offers have been received from Russia, Japan, Canada, France, Honduras, Germany, Venezuela, Jamaica, Australia, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Greece, Hungary, Colombia, the Dominican Republic, El Salvador, Mexico, China, South Korea, Israel, the United Arab Emirates, NATO and the Organization of American States, the spokesman said.

Posted by BH 2005-09-01 15:16|| 2005-09-01 15:16|| Front Page Top

#26 These suckers were brought out of retirement. Fireup the Centennials....

Can't. Only 6936 is in operable condition; all the rest have been donated to various locales (6946 at Portola is in sad shape BTW - rust is beginning to form in places). Of course, UP does have 62 6000HP SD90ACs at its disposal....

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-09-01 15:17|| 2005-09-01 15:17|| Front Page Top

#27 mom

whinge v. To whinge can best be described as to whine. Likewise, someone particularly partial to whinging is known as a whinger.

Posted by Sock Puppet OÂ´ Doom 2005-09-01 16:47|| 2005-09-01 16:47|| Front Page Top

#28 So if he's in the Grauniad he's a Left Whinger then?

Posted by Parabellum 2005-09-01 17:44|| 2005-09-01 17:44|| Front Page Top

#29 Fooey BAR. I was hoping to hear one run. I understand they are loud.

Posted by Shipman 2005-09-01 18:07|| 2005-09-01 18:07|| Front Page Top

#30 Several German relief organizations have put up accounts where Germans can donate and they say money is flowing in now that people start to realize how huge the disaster is.

Germany has also offered to help with water treatment plants and mobile accommodation.

Posted by True German Ally 2005-09-01 21:05|| 2005-09-01 21:05|| Front Page Top

#31 mom,

whinge is just British for the American whine. Much like wanker is British for ... actually, I don't know what the American equivalent would be, but it isn't a nice thing to be called. Somewhere on the web there is a British/American dictionary that translates many of these terms.

Posted by trailing wife 2005-09-01 22:06|| 2005-09-01 22:06|| Front Page Top

#32 wanker = chronic masturbater

see Atom Film's Angry Kid

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2005-09-01 22:24|| 2005-09-01 22:24|| Front Page Top

#33 The kindest words of sympathy and offers of ~~help~~ fuck off come from ... drum roll please ... Kuwait

Senior Kuwaiti Official: "Katrina is a Wind of Torment and Evil from Allah Sent to This American Empire"

Posted by The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2005-09-01 23:08|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 23:08|| Front Page Top

#34 BTW: Next time Iran gets hit by an earthquake or Indonesia is plowed again by a Tsunami, I'm sending a stool-bag sample of my heaviest excrement, replete with corn, to the nearest Relief Agency collecting on behalf of these nations.

Posted by The Angry Fliegerabwehrkanonen 2005-09-01 23:10|| http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com]">[http://www.calderonswirbelwind.blogspot.com] 2005-09-01 23:10|| Front Page Top

#35 that's just nasty

Posted by Jan 2005-09-01 23:49|| 2005-09-01 23:49|| Front Page Top

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