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2021-08-24 Science & Technology
Unvaccinated adults 50+ are 17x more likely to die than vaxxed counterparts
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 01:33|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ]  Top

#1 Just so much garbage news. Coordinated propaganda news network to keep the fear going. The truth has left the building. I am in the public day to day and can see the reality. People are living their lives free of this organized chronic psychosis. Then consider 5G and soon 6 GT. Say what you will but people are standing their ground. Not all will swallow the propaganda.
Posted by Dale 2021-08-24 04:23||   2021-08-24 04:23|| Front Page Top

#2 From the Los Angeles County Department of Public Health.

Right because the would not lie, much.
Posted by Woodrow 2021-08-24 05:08||   2021-08-24 05:08|| Front Page Top

#3 The local FOX affiliate is completely woke running the first 12 minutes of each evening broadcast covid related stories. Same routine each night.
Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2021-08-24 06:20||   2021-08-24 06:20|| Front Page Top

#4 One hand patting yourself on the back, the other...
Posted by Frank G 2021-08-24 06:45||   2021-08-24 06:45|| Front Page Top

#5 "How many of 'burg regulars are vaccinated with mRNA, and how many had serious side effects?"

I'll go first: Pfizer/Biontech (Comirnaty), 2 times.

Side effects: Arm muscle a bit pressure sensitive for a few hours, a few warm flushes for a few hours, a bit tired the next day. I wouldn't even call this "side effects". The second jab had even milder side effects that vanished a few hours later.

I got back to work one hour after both vaccinations.
Posted by European Conservative 2021-08-24 06:54||   2021-08-24 06:54|| Front Page Top

#6 Pfizer, some shoulder ache the first day, retirement unaffected.
Posted by Bobby 2021-08-24 07:00||   2021-08-24 07:00|| Front Page Top

#7 We're both seniors and went ahead and got the Maderna. No side effects, back to afternoon naps the next day. Our extended family came down with the damn COVID and it was pretty rough. They HAD been vax'd and got a light case, which put them out of action and quarantined for 2+ weeks.

We were hold outs. My major concern are the unknown the long-term effects, which at our age really doesn't mean much. The huge gov't push was my other concern. That needs little further explanation. I've spent too much time around Washington to trust those greedy, self-serving bastids for anything.

Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-24 07:06||   2021-08-24 07:06|| Front Page Top

#8 J&J, no side effects that I noticed. Out of caution I took an extra low dose aspirin every day for a month as a guard against clots. Full disclosure, I never have tested positive for COVID at any time before or since being vaccinated.
Posted by M. Murcek  2021-08-24 07:15||   2021-08-24 07:15|| Front Page Top

#9 I got the AstraZeneca thingy. I don't think the mRna ones had come out yet. Slight pain in arm, legs in night. Went on my run the next day as usual. Oh... have had the odd urge for rhyming snark since then. And pizza for some reason. Maybe that's a side effect.
Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-24 07:18||   2021-08-24 07:18|| Front Page Top

#10 J&J, next day something akin to a mild flu, gone the following day. No soreness in the arm cause I was taught to drop and do twenty after shots along time ago.
Posted by Procopius2k 2021-08-24 07:27||   2021-08-24 07:27|| Front Page Top

#11 Moderna: sore arm, slight flu symptoms on first shot
Posted by Frank G 2021-08-24 07:30||   2021-08-24 07:30|| Front Page Top

#12 #7 Besoeker, remember I recommended wikipedia "protein synthesis"? It is written in non-technical language, and - once you read it - you'll see that mRNA doesn't modify your genetics.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:35||   2021-08-24 07:35|| Front Page Top

#13 Besoeker, P2k you're vaccinated - I shouldn't have worried.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:36||   2021-08-24 07:36|| Front Page Top

#14 Pfizzer, 2 + 1 (it lasts (approx) six months). Dull shoulder ache on second - but I did shopping that day (say 15 kilo (30 pounds)).
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:39||   2021-08-24 07:39|| Front Page Top

#15 Oh... have had the odd urge for rhyming snark since then. And pizza for some reason.

Which kind of pizza?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:41||   2021-08-24 07:41|| Front Page Top

#16 I wish they vaccinated kids too. :(
Posted by Wren 2021-08-24 07:44||   2021-08-24 07:44|| Front Page Top

#17 Which kind of pizza?

Pork pepperoni for one. Second preference smoked chicken.
Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-24 07:47||   2021-08-24 07:47|| Front Page Top

#18 No major side effects among vaccinated children, initial Israeli data suggests
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:47||   2021-08-24 07:47|| Front Page Top

#19 Pork pepperoni for one. Second preference smoked chicken.

Yammy.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 07:52||   2021-08-24 07:52|| Front Page Top

#20 Pfizer. Some heat at the injection site for several days, both times. Not much other reaction, similar to a flu shot. However, my lifts were off by 10% until several weeks after the second injection. I'm 80.
Posted by KBK 2021-08-24 08:24||   2021-08-24 08:24|| Front Page Top

#21 Ref #12: Any 'mod' to my generics would likely result in a positive outcome.
Posted by Besoeker 2021-08-24 08:36||   2021-08-24 08:36|| Front Page Top

#22 Both of us got the Moderna, Mrs. Ret slight arm tenderness right arm @2nd shot; otherwise nothing. Anticipated incapacitation following 2nd shot per news scare so batches of lasagna prepared. Somewhat disappointed that no SIQ time followed.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2021-08-24 08:45||   2021-08-24 08:45|| Front Page Top

#23 Pfizer for me - chills the night of the second shot, Moderna for the wife with no side effects.
Posted by Tennessee 2021-08-24 08:46||   2021-08-24 08:46|| Front Page Top

#24 myself and my wife both had the Moderna vax. No problems for me, 10 minutes of moderate dizziness for wife

son had Moderna, no problems
daughter had Pfiser, no problems
Posted by Lord Garth 2021-08-24 09:20||   2021-08-24 09:20|| Front Page Top

#25 Both wife and I (60+) had Pfizer, no effects but sore arm, somewhat more for the second jab. No down time.
Posted by Nero 2021-08-24 09:28||   2021-08-24 09:28|| Front Page Top

#26 J&J for both wife and me. She had slight tenderness at the jab site for the evening. I had nothing. (I am already on a baby aspiring regimin.) She had been repeatedly and closely exposed (pre-vax) to people with covid but apparently never caught it. I was exposed (pre-vax) too and probably did get a mild case (based on timing and symptoms, not tests.) As Besoeker said, I'm old enough to not be too concerned about potential long-term negative effects of the vaccines, but I do distrust the government...
Posted by Glenmore 2021-08-24 09:36||   2021-08-24 09:36|| Front Page Top

#27 Yawn. Tell me more lies Medical Industrial Complex
Posted by Regular joe 2021-08-24 09:36||   2021-08-24 09:36|| Front Page Top

#28 #21 😂
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 09:43||   2021-08-24 09:43|| Front Page Top

#29 
"Well, if you will just
come this way and sit,
and chew on this confit.
There'll be a slight prick,
it won't hurt a bit."

"Ayuh, Doctor Hell,
but only do tell,
in this some genetic shit,
that turns men into pussies
at eighty eighyit?!"


Don't be offended, this is the AstraZeneca side effect.
Posted by Dron66046 2021-08-24 10:05||   2021-08-24 10:05|| Front Page Top

#30 Pfizer/Biontech 2x for Mr. Wife, me, trailing daughter #1, final daughter, and my 95-year old mother. td#2 and her husband were vaccinated as soon as it was available to them, though they both probably had Covid in 2020 — td#2 was pretty sick at the time. My two siblings and my sister-in-law, Mr. Wife’s sister, her husband, their adult daughters and their husbands all vaccinated. I seem to recall that the niece who is a nurse-practitioner on a Covid ward caught it at one point, but recovered pretty quickly — and then got vaccinated when that became available. Typical mild side effects in the first two days after the vaccination all around.

We have concerns about final daughter, who was diagnosed this year as immunocompromised and has been getting generalized immunoglobulin infusions in an attempt to boost her immune response — they let her get the Covid vaccine though they were pretty sure it wouldn’t do much for her. So Mr. Wife plans to get the booster shot to add an extra layer of protection so that he doesn’t bring illness into the house. I figure I’ll wait — I don’t go out into the world nearly as much as he does, so the odds I’ll be exposed to anything are much lower. And I have no idea whether my mother plans to get the booster when it comes out.

In Mr. Wife’s extended family we’ve lost a few relatives to Covid, and had a scare a few months ago when the youngest nephew, age 2, was diagnosed with it — but after a miserable few hours he was as bouncy as ever. We have friends who have needed hospitalization, at least one who survived being on a ventilator... and one dear friend who was only moderately ill months ago, but is very unhappy to be still dealing with reduced energy and brain fog. And friends’ friends & relatives who have gotten terribly ill or died.

My darling father- and mother-in-law have refused the vaccine, so we are all very careful to stay away from them when anyone is ill or has been exposed.

I respect everyone’s choice, but I am tired of the flame wars which serve only to harden opinions.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-08-24 10:10||   2021-08-24 10:10|| Front Page Top

#31 Cheeseburger pizza
Buffalo wing pizza - bleu cheese dressing to dip is a must.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-24 10:15||   2021-08-24 10:15|| Front Page Top

#32 I respect everyone’s choice, but I am tired of the flame wars which serve only to harden opinions.

Amen, TW. I decided I value the people I know here more than my opinions. I figure I don't have to agree with anyone so much as I have to find them agreeable to be around. I hope I sorta make the cut in that regard myself.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-24 10:21||   2021-08-24 10:21|| Front Page Top

#33 You adults really make a mountain out of a molehill.
Posted by Wren 2021-08-24 10:32||   2021-08-24 10:32|| Front Page Top

#34 Reports from Israel:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ultra-vaccinated-israels-debacle-is-a-dire-warning-to-america
Posted by Vespasian Ebboting9735 2021-08-24 11:16||   2021-08-24 11:16|| Front Page Top

#35 Moderna shots, sore shoulder for a day on both occasions, and that's it.

...and g(r)om's still an asshole.
Posted by Raj 2021-08-24 11:36||   2021-08-24 11:36|| Front Page Top

#36  ..and g(r)om's still an asshole.

So are you, my dear Raj, and very proud of it. Both of you refuse to see that Israel’s situation is very different than America’s, while both of you ignore how different it is India, leaving Dron56046 in peace.

Please stop.
Posted by trailing wife 2021-08-24 11:54||   2021-08-24 11:54|| Front Page Top

#37 Unfortunately it has been almost impossible to have a civil educated debate about COVID-19. In Germany just like in the U.S.
Posted by European Conservative 2021-08-24 11:58||   2021-08-24 11:58|| Front Page Top

#38 The people who made it a religion co-opted the debate. No reason for non COVID religion zealots to engage them.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-24 12:01||   2021-08-24 12:01|| Front Page Top

#39 ^Now, exactly what did I do, TW, that justifies that person's language?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2021-08-24 12:03||   2021-08-24 12:03|| Front Page Top

#40 I got the Moderna and had no problems, in fact I got tired of having to sit for 15 minutes afterwards so left early. My daughter got Moderna and she didn't have any problems either. I'm embarrassed to admit I don't know what vaccine my son and family all got back in Virginia except for my daughter in law who didn't receive the vaccine since she was pregnant. They all came down with COVID feeling miserable for a week then were all fine, so their added natural immunity is reassuring. My Kaiser Dr recommends that I get the booster, I'll probably get it since any long term problems at my age are irrelevant
Posted by Jan 2021-08-24 12:07||   2021-08-24 12:07|| Front Page Top

#41 Got AstraZeneca-Oxford. Felt nothing different that day. However, jab site was sore and I had a mild headache and body pain the next day. No fever though. But the effects were mild enough that I didn't feel the need to take a leave from work. Everything back to normal the next day.
Posted by Rhinemann 2021-08-24 12:31||   2021-08-24 12:31|| Front Page Top

#42 We have concerns about final daughter, who was diagnosed this year as immunocompromised

Four in 10 immunosuppressed people have 'low or undetectable' levels of Covid antibodies after two vaccines, Government-funded study finds — as pressure mounts for booster jab rollout
Posted by Skidmark 2021-08-24 12:40||   2021-08-24 12:40|| Front Page Top

#43 Now, exactly what did I do, TW, that justifies that person's language?
Posted by g(r)omgoru

Your stunning lack of awareness amazes me. Try this on for size:
1. You have wished financial ruin upon the unmasked and unvaxed.
2. You have wished death upon the unmasked and unvaxed.
3. You are joyous when notable non-vaxers perish.
4. You whine to TW and the mods.
I'm not speaking for Raj. I'm sure he will put it more eloquently.

As for the rest of you vaxers. I wish you the best of luck. I hope the vaccines work as well as promised. Many of my close family are vaxed and I want them (and all) to be well. For now the vax is not for me.
Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2021-08-24 12:50||   2021-08-24 12:50|| Front Page Top

#44 Moderna: no side effects.
Posted by borgboy 2021-08-24 14:02||   2021-08-24 14:02|| Front Page Top

#45 ^Now, exactly what did I do, TW, that justifies that person's language?

You'll react to people trying to tell the truth about the fraud surrounding potential treatments of the virus as if they're going to try to filter the vaccine out of your blood.
Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2021-08-24 14:54||   2021-08-24 14:54|| Front Page Top

#46 Moderna x 2. Also had COVID-19 very early on, ~November 2019. It was hard to shake. No real side effects from vaxes. I am 72 with badly damaged lungs (not a smoker) and usually get pneumonia once a year, but not this year or last.
Posted by Whiskey Mike 2021-08-24 15:01||   2021-08-24 15:01|| Front Page Top

#47 I have had it with the Medical Industrial Complex. They are worse then the IC.
Posted by Grusotle Bumble4501 2021-08-24 15:26||   2021-08-24 15:26|| Front Page Top

#48 Pfizer. Slightly sore the first time, significant fatigue the next day for the second (but not sore).

One of our daughters was sick with the bug for three months. I don't know if the predisposition was from my side or not, but I didn't want to fool around.
Posted by james  2021-08-24 15:28|| https://idontknowbut.blogspot.com  2021-08-24 15:28|| Front Page Top

#49 Fauxi now hedging on vaxx mandates. Says we can wait and see what 2022 looks like. Sounds like the circus is getting ready to strike its tents.
Posted by M. Murcek 2021-08-24 17:37||   2021-08-24 17:37|| Front Page Top

#50 Longitudinal analysis shows durable and broad immune memory after SARS-CoV-2 infection with persisting antibody responses and memory B and T cells

natural immunity is 80% more effective than vax

https://www.cell.com/cell-reports-medicine/fulltext/S2666-3791(21)00203-2


note - they plan to go down for maintaience tonight -

"Maintenance Warning: Cell Press journal websites will be undergoing maintenance on Wednesday, August 25 from 12:01 AM to 4:00 PM US Eastern. During this window we have temporarily deactivated the Registration feature. If you already have an account, you can login, however, profile updates, purchases and subscription activations will be disabled until after the upgrade. We apologize for the inconvenience.

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This is an NIH study
Posted by newc 2021-08-24 19:03||   2021-08-24 19:03|| Front Page Top

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