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2014-08-24 Terror Networks

Dershowitz: ISIS is to America as Hamas is to Israel

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Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2014-08-24 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views ] Top

#1 Dershowitz is to America as OJ is to America.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-08-24 01:21|| 2014-08-24 01:21|| Front Page Top

#2 Two observations:

1.)Accusing critics of Israel of specifically of hypocrisy makes for a poor argument. The US and NATO have indeed been very soft on islamofascism since 2001, even on those islamofascists who had conducted massive attacks on the West.

No one, not even Israel is morally obliged to emulate irrational, amoral and self-destructive behavior. This should be a sufficient defense of Israel's reaction to Hamas' aggression.

2.) Why this sudden near hysterical outrage specifically over ISIS?

Atrocities similar to ISIS' crimes and atrocities much worse have transpired in broad daylight in Western cities.
In each instance any expression of disapproval beyond grief (sometimes verging on maudlin sentimentality) over the victims of these respective 'tragic events' was frowned upon if not explicitly verboten.

What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc ?

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2014-08-24 04:10|| 2014-08-24 04:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Atrocities similar to ISIS' crimes and atrocities much worse have transpired in broad daylight in Western cities.
Examples, please. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

Posted by trailing wife 2014-08-24 06:01|| 2014-08-24 06:01|| Front Page Top

#4 Examples, please.

Theo van Gogh, Lee Rigby?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-08-24 06:45|| 2014-08-24 06:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Sick bastids, all of them.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-08-24 07:30|| 2014-08-24 07:30|| Front Page Top

#6 The problem isn't Hamas or ISIS, it's the stupidity of allowing others to put chains and ropes around your ability to resolve such overt threats with a finality that is well within either country's capacity (see - Sri Lanka)

Posted by Procopius2k 2014-08-24 09:06|| 2014-08-24 09:06|| Front Page Top

#7 What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc?

When judged by their actions; not much. Maybe goat or camel buggering preferences.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-24 09:10|| 2014-08-24 09:10|| Front Page Top

#8 it's the stupidity of allowing others to put chains and ropes around your ability to resolve such overt threats with a finality that is well within either country's capacity

Amen to that. We have not released the "dogs of war" in a long time.

Posted by JohnQC 2014-08-24 09:15|| 2014-08-24 09:15|| Front Page Top

#9 "dogs of war'?

What, purple hair and an earring? The American youth ? The American Public?

MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too
much and and want more Gatorade.

They can't get their peckers up for training let alone a firefight and they are too stupid to walk home even if it is only one block from the bar.

Good luck with getting Americans to fight unless they have a seat under them and lots of gas to get there. They won't hike in and when they get there they will complain about what they had to carry.

Posted by Big Thromoth3646 2014-08-24 09:49|| 2014-08-24 09:49|| Front Page Top

#10 MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too much and and want more Gatorade.

Gee, I'm so glad you clarified that, Hemingway. And in capital letters, no less.

I'll bet the 7-11 customers you're screaming at as they enter and exit the store don't appreciate the distinction, though.

Posted by Pappy 2014-08-24 11:08|| 2014-08-24 11:08|| Front Page Top

#11 I like Gatorade.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-08-24 11:11|| 2014-08-24 11:11|| Front Page Top

#12 MOST Americans are godless whining wusses who sweat too much and want more Gatorade.

Gatorade triggers my gout. If you've got a bit of gout, you've got something to bitc* about I assure you.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-08-24 11:13|| 2014-08-24 11:13|| Front Page Top

#13 What is the difference here? What is the essential difference between ISIS and Hezbollah, Hamas, IRG, Taliban, Boko Haram, MB etc ?

The other have pretty clear goal, to destroy Israel and remove the West from Arab countries. Boko Haram is nothing more that a waring tribe that lays claim to Islam.

ISIS is defining themselves differently. Their stated goal is to build the Caliphate. Their intent is to attack and destroy the West. Their plans are to bring the fight to the US and Europe. They are well funded and have the potential of developing their plans into action. They have recruited from all over Europe, Australia, Canada, and the US. They have developed relationships with with Drug cartels in South America and globally. So YES! They are different. They have a plan, they have money, they learn every day and get stronger every day. They are a very real threat to the Western way of life.
Your comments remind me of the, Its that pesky Nazi party. They are silly and will amount to nothing mentality.

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-08-24 12:02|| 2014-08-24 12:02|| Front Page Top

#14 All islamofascistic outfits I mentioned want to rebuild the Caliphate. ISIS claims to BE the Caliphate which is why any Muslim political entity that recognizes ISIS must automatically also submit to ISIS which most of them don't want to do.

But is that really stuff that matters to Western targets of islamofascistic aggression?
Is the Iranian bomb really less dangerous than ISIS because Iran does not claim to be the new Caliphate?
Iran does not recognize Western sovereignty either and claims a divine right to rule globally.

Examples of attacks:
9-11 targeted 10000s, 'only' close to 3000 dead
7-7, Atocha, Lee Rigby, Van Gogh, Glasgow attacks, Bali and Ghriba Synagogue bombings (Westerner tourists were targeted)

Posted by Elmerert Hupens2660 2014-08-24 16:55|| 2014-08-24 16:55|| Front Page Top

#15 Obama is to America as Chamberlain was to England.

Posted by Airandee 2014-08-24 19:25|| 2014-08-24 19:25|| Front Page Top

#16 Obama is to America as Chamberlain was to England.

I disagree - Chamberlain, and those with him were fools. Obama, and ValJar and those with them knows exactly what they are doing and are doing it deliberately and with malice.

Posted by CrazyFool 2014-08-24 20:33|| 2014-08-24 20:33|| Front Page Top

#17 You not so crazy fool!

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-08-24 20:42|| 2014-08-24 20:42|| Front Page Top

#18 If ISIS gets inside the US borders and causes sufficient damage, President Barack Hussein gets his wish. A country under Military occupation and Marshal Law.

Posted by Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2014-08-24 21:01|| 2014-08-24 21:01|| Front Page Top

#19 Isn't that how Marcos became Dictator in the Philippines. Declare a state of emergency which never quite ended.

Posted by CrazyFool 2014-08-24 21:27|| 2014-08-24 21:27|| Front Page Top

#20 it still hasn't

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