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2008-08-24 Britain
Lack of staff could beach Britain's nuclear submarines
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Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-08-24 03:25|| || Front Page|| [11141 views ]  Top

#1 The British won't fight for Britain any more because it's not Britain any more. Decades of the multiculti bullshit and anti-white racism has destroyed the love of country that used to inspire people to join the armed forces.

The military aren't stupid. They see how they're treated, what little they have to work with and the scant consideration they're given. Then they compare their situation against the American units they're often working with. The contrast doesn't inspire much loyalty to Queen and Country.

Loyalty is a two-way street, something British governments since Thatcher and the MOD have forgotten. They're paying now for their earlier neglect, but this is just the beginning. It's going to get exponentially worse.
Posted by Jolutch Mussolini7800 2008-08-24 04:02||   2008-08-24 04:02|| Front Page Top

#2 If Brown had his way I suspect he'd happily disband the UK forces entirely and wait for the mythical EUroforce.
Posted by lotp 2008-08-24 08:07||   2008-08-24 08:07|| Front Page Top

#3 Staff them with Pakistani immigrants like they do with everything else.
Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore  2008-08-24 08:53||   2008-08-24 08:53|| Front Page Top

#4 This is the ultimate express of the 'consent of the governed'. It wasn't about votes. It's about a people's willingness to do the dirty work and take the risks to make a country viable. When there is a no show at the muster, we're only waiting for the fat lady to sing.
Posted by Procopius2k 2008-08-24 12:04||   2008-08-24 12:04|| Front Page Top

#5 For it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' "Chuck him out, the brute!"
But it's "Saviour of 'is country" when the guns begin to shoot;
An' it's Tommy this, an' Tommy that, an' anything you please;
An' Tommy ain't a bloomin' fool -- you bet that Tommy sees!
Posted by OregonGuy">OregonGuy  2008-08-24 12:12|| http://oregonguythinks.blogspot.com/]">[http://oregonguythinks.blogspot.com/]  2008-08-24 12:12|| Front Page Top

#6 Roman matrons used to say to their sons: "Come back with your shield, or on it." Later on, this custom declined. So did Rome.

Heinlein was right.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-24 12:33||   2008-08-24 12:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Old Spook, I agree that Heinlein was right...but it was Spartan women that used that expression, not Roman...
Posted by NoMoreBS">NoMoreBS  2008-08-24 13:23||   2008-08-24 13:23|| Front Page Top

#8 Spartans originated it, Romans adopted it from the Greeks, like they did with a good many things.
Posted by OldSpook 2008-08-24 16:17||   2008-08-24 16:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Something similar was addressed here on the 'Burg a few months back - IIRC, it was about budget cuts and personnel shortages in the British Army. I'll repeat the same proposal I made then - the US should take advantage of the UK's lunatic defense policy by offering RIF'ed British military "head of the line privilege" for US citizenship in return for, say, four years of service in our forces. And come up with something similar for the skilled MoD civilians as well.
Posted by Ricky bin Ricardo (Abu Babaloo) 2008-08-24 17:04||   2008-08-24 17:04|| Front Page Top

#10 That could be considered a hostile act. I would prefer to ask the Brits what they need for their forces in the war zone and just give it to them.
Posted by ed 2008-08-24 17:44||   2008-08-24 17:44|| Front Page Top

#11 How can they uphold their NATO obligations with that kind of Army and Navy?
Posted by Beldar Unasing7454 2008-08-24 21:44||   2008-08-24 21:44|| Front Page Top

#12 A wonderful bit of writing today's TimesOnline about Towton,
"the site of the largest, longest, bloodiest and most murderous battle ever fought in Britain – Bloodiest not just by a few hundred, but by thousands.

By all contemporary accounts, allowing for medieval exaggeration, on this one Sunday between 20,000 and 30,000 men died. Just so that you grasp the magnitude, that’s a more grievous massacre of British men than on the first day of the Somme. Without machineguns or shells, young blokes hacked, bludgeoned and trampled, suffocated and drowned. An astonishing 1% of the English population died in this field.
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the “arrow storm”: An English archer could fire 15 to 20 arrows in a minute – that’s what made the opening moments of battle so horrific.
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The armies face each other, an arrow’s length apart, perhaps 300 yards. The archers step forward, communion wafers still stuck to the roofs of their mouths, muttering prayers to St Sebastian, patron saint of archers. The order “Knock, draw, loose!” sends a hissing curtain of iron-tipped splinters high into the white air.
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Organised ranks of men standing under an arrow storm can do one of three things. They can take it, the steepling hysteria, the terror, the incessant keening of the goose feathers, the thud and grunt, the screaming and pleading, the smell of shit and vomit and split gut; they can stand with their skin prickling in mortal expectation. Or they can retreat – get out of the rain, give ground, lose form and purpose, and run. Or they can attack – move forward, confront the ... peasant bowmen.
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We get to the river, now little more than a stream, dodging rocks and fallen logs. Here, hidden in a swaying copse of ash trees, was the Bridge of Bodies, built of Lancastrian dead to form a dam, the spume running with crimson gore. This was the final horror of Towton. We stare onto the dark water in silence.

“You know, this is the bit I can’t imagine,” says the printer, “what it must have felt like to be hunted down, hundreds of miles from home, to have been through that day, to be wounded, terrified, desperate – what was that like?” And we fall into silence again.

And then, because we’ve been talking of many things, he says he’s got a son all set to join the army, keen as a greyhound for some soldiering. Standing in this awful, overgrown secret morgue, he says he’s proud but terribly worried – it frightens him, the thought of his boy. And there, in those words and in that silence, is the thing that history does when you meet it halfway. It bends in on itself and folds the run of years to touch the present, not with a cold hand but with the warm breath of a moment ago.
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The dead of Towton are buried all over here, in mounds and trenches, in pits, in Saxon churchyards and the deserted hamlet of Lead. They are both history and landscape. They make up the most perfectly preserved great battlefield in the country. ...[Towton is] kept by the quiet, respectful community and by this small band, this happy breed of marvellously eccentric enthusiasts, who, as we walk through the corn, I see are the yeomen of England walking back through our history, through Cobbett and Dickens, through Shakespeare to Chaucer and down the years to Domesday. They honour this blessed land, this earth of majesty, this seat of Mars."
It's not over yet.
Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2008-08-24 21:57||   2008-08-24 21:57|| Front Page Top

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