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2011-08-20 Home Front: Politix
Some Politicans do not Believe in Global Warming
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Posted by Bobby 2011-08-20 10:02|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ]  Top

#1 Thepolitical discussion about global warming has lurched dramatically in four years -- even as the scientific consensus has changed little.

ahhh, invoking "consensus" in the first sentence? Smells like Teen spirit desperation. Perry and others, are now pushing back against the hoaxsters and frauds in the MMGW charade. Even T-Paw has recanted
Posted by Frank G on the road 2011-08-20 11:05||   2011-08-20 11:05|| Front Page Top

#2 What cracks me up is the data they point to only goes back a few decades. In order to get the big picture, you have to go back a few hundred thousand years at least. Once you go back that far, the little warm blip that is the past few decades disappears as statistical noise.

It is called climate, and it changes with, or without us. I swear these people so want to believe that this has become their religion and god.
Posted by DarthVader 2011-08-20 11:24||   2011-08-20 11:24|| Front Page Top

#3 The great global warming swindle is just a big transnational-bureaucrat-class lie to take away our freedoms and tax us

And not just the US but every country. We are fighting this idiocy in Australia right now.

It's a big lie that the science is settled, that scientists all agree, that humans are destroying the planet with C02.

CO2 is NOT pollution. It is a harmless gas that is essential to life as we know it. We breathe it out, plants breathe it in.

Sunspots and solar weather activity has a big influence on climate. Go see NASA's website on it.

Green fascists: go to hell
Posted by anon1 2011-08-20 12:18||   2011-08-20 12:18|| Front Page Top

#4 The Himalayan glacier claim wasn't so much the glaciers would shrink, but would cause x million/billion people to experience water shortages.

This was based on simple ignorance of the fact himalayan rivers flood in late summer with the monsoon. The peak of agricultural demand for water.

The people who wrote the report assumed late summer was low water in rivers as it is in temperate zones. And smaller glaciers = less summer river flow.

The reality is less summer flow from melt is the proverbial drop in the ocean when summer rainfall is 100+ inches.

But then the people who wrote the IPCC report weren't scientists.

Posted by phil_b 2011-08-20 12:28||   2011-08-20 12:28|| Front Page Top

#5 I figure the only way MMGW advocates will ever shut up is when those who engaged and continue to engage in scientific fraud are brought up on criminal charges.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-08-20 13:49||   2011-08-20 13:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Of course climate change is real. And the change has been Global Warming since wooly mammoths roamed the countryside.
SOME component of that change is man-made (particulate pollution causes shade, & cooling; CO2 & methane releases cause some warming; burning methane that would otherwise naturally be released causes cooling); the real question is “How big is the man-made effect?” We don’t know.
Then even if we did know, and it was big, the question remains “What can we DO about it?” We could cut the US carbon footprint to zero and all it would do is delay that CO2 emission a few years. In fact, more efficient combustion here means less CO2 emission per unit of economic output than in, say, China, and there’s no way China is going to sacrifice its development to ‘save the planet.’
Posted by Glenmore 2011-08-20 15:08||   2011-08-20 15:08|| Front Page Top

#7 The "scientific consensus" is this...
If I keep my mouth shut about doubts I will keep getting grants.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-08-20 15:34||   2011-08-20 15:34|| Front Page Top

#8 The enlightened 'scientists' in the GOP think the Earth is 7000 years old and that cavemen were hunting dinosaurs for din-din. No need to worry...the Tea Baggers have a plan...pollute cuz the Commies are...just make sure you keep the curtains pulled and have shotgun in hand...what dipshits.
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-20 17:49||   2011-08-20 17:49|| Front Page Top

#9 The science is settled, Yup like crap, it settles.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-08-20 17:56||   2011-08-20 17:56|| Front Page Top

#10 "Redneck Jim" thinks science is crap, so it's settled y'all. You like dim Tea Baggers, do ya?
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-20 18:13||   2011-08-20 18:13|| Front Page Top

#11 Just trying hard to wear our your welcome, eh Shakey Steve?
Posted by badanov 2011-08-20 18:17|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-20 18:17|| Front Page Top

#12 Shakey,
I am active in our local tea party and I resent your insulting terminology. Read my post above and explain just what you think tea partiers like me are getting wrong about climate change (we'll leave discussing the real heart of the tea party movement for another time.)
Posted by Glenmore 2011-08-20 18:18||   2011-08-20 18:18|| Front Page Top

#13 called him early.
Posted by Frank G on the road 2011-08-20 18:24||   2011-08-20 18:24|| Front Page Top

#14 Aw yes, that old attitude "if we lower are carbon footprint and the Commies don't, it would have no effect, so keep polluting cuz it's hopeless"...is that part of the TP platform? Listen, put your big-girl panties on and stop the crying...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-20 18:26||   2011-08-20 18:26|| Front Page Top

#15 Shakey Steve:

As a matter of warning, this is your last one.

One more ad hominem atttack, one more personal snide remark, and I will disappear your remarks from Rantburg, all of them, permanently.

You now have a choice. You can debate, or you can disappear.

Your choice.
Posted by badanov 2011-08-20 18:29|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-20 18:29|| Front Page Top

#16 Shakey Steve: I second my esteemed moderating colleague Badanov. 'Tea bagger' is an insult. It was created to be one, it is one, and it's one that shall not be used at Rantburg.

As Badanov said, you have a choice.

AoS (moderator)
Posted by Steve White 2011-08-20 19:00||   2011-08-20 19:00|| Front Page Top

#17 "so keep polluting cuz it's hopeless"...

Not 'hopeless', just pointless. And based on relative efficiencies, downright counterproductive. Unless the real point is economic redistribution, and the climate change arguement is just a red herring.
Posted by Glenmore 2011-08-20 19:03||   2011-08-20 19:03|| Front Page Top

#18 Shakey, you have any evidence or proof for a "well reasoned discourse"? Obviously, if you are so defending it you must have some evidence, yes?

Or do you want to keep flinging insults like a monkey flinging poo and defending your beliefs like a religion?
Posted by DarthVader 2011-08-20 19:09||   2011-08-20 19:09|| Front Page Top

#19 I hope the left continue to put off religious voters because if there's one thing sillier than creationism, it's the economic creationism that Marx espouses (with the state in the role of God).
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-08-20 19:49||   2011-08-20 19:49|| Front Page Top

#20 "I hope the left continue to put off religious voters because if there's one thing sillier than creationism"

Sorry, there is NOTHING sillier than that drivel, except for maybe belief in the Tooth Fairy...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-20 20:09||   2011-08-20 20:09|| Front Page Top

#21 Bright Pebbles,
I find it interesting how so many of society's problems can be traced back to Judeo-Christian 'Original Sin,' aka Greek 'hubris.' The idea that Man knows more than God causes problems no matter how one defines God - or even IF there is God; when a man (woman or group of them) convince themselves and others that they are all-knowing, the one thing we can be sure of is that they are wrong.
Posted by Glenmore 2011-08-20 20:15||   2011-08-20 20:15|| Front Page Top

#22 The problem is a variant of Narcissism whereby the person not only thinks they know more than other people they think they know more about the wants of the other person than the person concerned.

Where you find Narcissism you tend to find economic creationists.
Posted by Bright Pebbles 2011-08-20 21:02||   2011-08-20 21:02|| Front Page Top

#23 For clarity, I'm NOT a "Tea Party" person, the term "Tea Bagger' does NOT apply to me.
Posted by Redneck Jim 2011-08-20 21:11||   2011-08-20 21:11|| Front Page Top

#24 Top three "science is settled" moments:

Don't worry,dear. Those leaches are good for you!

Penicillin is mold! It doesn't work!

It doesn't get any more advanced than trebuchets.
Posted by badanov 2011-08-20 21:51|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-20 21:51|| Front Page Top

#25 Sorry, there is NOTHING sillier than that drivel...

Actually, economic creationism probably qualifies. That's the belief that 'value' magically appears out of thin air or at the whim of a bureaucrat or from a printing press.
Posted by Procopius2k 2011-08-20 22:14||   2011-08-20 22:14|| Front Page Top

#26 President Obama favored a nationwide system in which industries would have to cap their carbon dioxide emissions

Could we make this apply also to the "political" industry.

"Sorry Senator, you have reached your carbon dioxide emission limit. No more speeches or statements for the rest of the year."
Posted by Cromert 2011-08-20 23:06||   2011-08-20 23:06|| Front Page Top

#27 The science is settled, Yup like crap, it settles.

Like we used to say in chemistry class, if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the precipitate.
Posted by SteveS 2011-08-20 23:13||   2011-08-20 23:13|| Front Page Top

#28 The moment a scientist claims anything as an immutable fact, he's not a scientist.
Posted by Silentbrick - Halliburton Lost Drill Bit Division 2011-08-20 23:15||   2011-08-20 23:15|| Front Page Top

#29 Most people know they are not controlling the atmosphere of this great big planet with the tail pipes of their cars.

Those "scientists" should just be out-right fired for Fraud, and those that profit from this fraud sent to prison for RICO and extortion charges. The EPA should be totally disbanded and a nationwide investigation should begin.

All e-mails and material should be public knowledge as it is a public scandal and those that made money off of it should be publically shamed at the least.

I do not like stupid people promoting non-existant problems in the face of real problems.

Shame on ALL of you that purported this FRAUD. You bear false witness and have absolutely no intestinal fortitude or honor.

Your parents failed you, and you are people that shame the human race.

More people will starve an die because of this farce, and trust me, GOD is watching.
Posted by newc 2011-08-20 23:18|| http://concisemagazine.wordpress.com/  2011-08-20 23:18|| Front Page Top

#30 This has become public endangerment. There is NO excuse for any of it. I will hold ALL politicians responsible for every death when this happens. Someone needs to hit the reset"" button of Washington DC. The whole damnit district has become a loony bin.

Mindless stupid idiots from HELL.
Posted by newc 2011-08-20 23:36||   2011-08-20 23:36|| Front Page Top

#31 LOLs...Exlax would fix that...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-20 23:39||   2011-08-20 23:39|| Front Page Top

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23:36 newc
23:26 Mikey Hunt
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23:08 newc
23:06 newc
23:06 Cromert
22:14 Procopius2k
21:53 Barbara
21:51 badanov
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20:58 Bright Pebbles
20:49 Frank G on the road
20:46 Bright Pebbles
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