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2005-08-19 Home Front: Politix

Two Illegal Immigrants Win Arizona Ranch in Court Fight

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Posted by sea cruise 2005-08-19 05:37|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Disgusting!

Posted by CrazyFool 2005-08-19 08:30|| 2005-08-19 08:30|| Front Page Top

#2 I admired the Southern Poverty Law Center until this.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-08-19 08:44|| 2005-08-19 08:44|| Front Page Top

#3 I'd say "That really SUCKS!"

Posted by Cheart Javiper3310 2005-08-19 09:32|| 2005-08-19 09:32|| Front Page Top

#4 I second DB's comment. Unless the reporters left out some details, I think this is screwy.

Notice how they are awaiting visas for reporting a crime?

Posted by Penguin 2005-08-19 10:14|| 2005-08-19 10:14|| Front Page Top

#5 This gets me so riled up, (on my day off too) I'll take a break and drink another pot of coffee and listen to the hummingbirds outside for awhile....

"The land transfer is being made to satisfy judgments in a lawsuit in which the immigrants had said that Casey Nethercott, the owner of the ranch and a former leader of the vigilante group Ranch Rescue, had harmed them."

Since when can't you defend your own property. (Too damn many to drag into your house) Our right to a fair judgement in a court of law is just that, OUR right. Since when does someone coming into our country who has committed a crime by being here illegally have an EQUAL right to sue the folks that are trying to stop this illegal flow of immigrants? A hearing yes, to make sure no wrong doing, but be able to sue like this no way. A hearing should be on them first about their illegal status.

Mr. Dees said the loss of the ranch would "send a pretty important message to those who come to the border to use violence."

It most certainly does send a message, not the one you'd agree with.

"..said they did not want to speak to the news media but were happy with the outcome.

I say hell ya let the media inform America what's really happening. Of course they're happy with the outcome.

Mr. MancÃa, who lives in Los Angeles, and Ms. Leiva, who lives in the Dallas area, ~~snuck into this country illegally~~ applied for visas that are available to immigrants who are the victims of certain crimes and who cooperate with the authorities, Ms. Bruner said.
Cooperate? Where in the wording does cooperate come from crossing our borders illegally?

I bet they don't. It's more of a crime when in trying to stop the flow of illegal immigrants into this country, is looked upon as; a crime that needs to be
dealt with in a court of law or worse yet settled out of court.

"The immigrants said that ~~while crossing illegally~~ the ordeal, in which they feared that they would be killed by the men they thought were soldiers, had left them with post-traumatic stress."

SIMPLE DON'T CROSS THE BORDER. Now the message is given for illegals to cross the border and if held back in any way, sue.

"In 1987, the headquarters of a Ku Klux Klan group in Alabama was given to the mother of a boy whose murder was tied to Klansmen."

In no way should the analogy of LEGAL black Americans have been compared to the ILLEGAL immigrants that have come into our country ILLEGALLY.
They'll probably use the land now to enhance illegal crossings for the Mexicans AND OTM's, drug trafficking, etc.
Sigh.
Where do the Supreme Court Justice folks stand on these issues?

Posted by Jan 2005-08-19 10:15|| 2005-08-19 10:15|| Front Page Top

#6 Well said, Jan. As a native Alabaman and long time opposer of the Klan I supported the outcome of the case in Alabama. This, however, seems to me to be travesty.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2005-08-19 10:25|| 2005-08-19 10:25|| Front Page Top

#7 This is phuquing insane.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-19 10:45|| 2005-08-19 10:45|| Front Page Top

#8 Time to shoot the lawyers and judges as well. We are in desprate need of a revolution.

Posted by mmurray821 2005-08-19 11:18|| 2005-08-19 11:18|| Front Page Top

#9 We are in desprate need of a revolution.

I'll bet you anything that countries south of our border from Mexico to Uruguay are laughing their asses off over this development. And making plans accordingly.

It's one thing to be under assault from external threats, but even more of a shame to be slowly destroyed from within....

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-19 11:27|| 2005-08-19 11:27|| Front Page Top

#10 I guess they learned their lesson. Next time, they will simply shoot them and bury them.

Posted by Jackal">Jackal 2005-08-19 11:32|| home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html]">[home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-08-19 11:32|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm glad that Mr. Dees is so proud of this. How proud is he gonna be when the folks down there, upon reading this, opt for Jackal's solution?

Posted by tu3031 2005-08-19 11:43|| 2005-08-19 11:43|| Front Page Top

#12 "...have applied for visas that are available to immigrants who are the victims of certain crimes and who cooperate with the authorities."
Ambiguous wording in legal statutes will always be open for abuse. One would assume that this "Out of the Shadows" clause was intended to encourage Illegals to cooperate with authorities against the individuals and companies that illegally hire and then further exploit them. Now that the criminal as well as the ridiculous civil litigation has been completed they should be deported to their country of origin and wait in line with the rest who wish to immigrate legally.

Posted by DepotGuy 2005-08-19 12:01|| 2005-08-19 12:01|| Front Page Top

#13 Maybe it's poetic justice, y'know? Now these two have to deal with a bunch of illegal aliens traipsing all over their property, making a mess of things.

Posted by BH 2005-08-19 12:12|| 2005-08-19 12:12|| Front Page Top

#14 Now these two have to deal with a bunch of illegal aliens traipsing all over their property, making a mess of things.

Likely scenario: They'll sell the property, pocket the money, and continue squatting on U.S. soil. In the meantime, the buyer is stuck with the mess.

Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2005-08-19 14:43|| 2005-08-19 14:43|| Front Page Top

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