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2015-08-18 -Lurid Crime Tales-
Hillary's email firm was run from a loft apartment with its servers in the bathroom closet
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Posted by Frank G 2015-08-18 09:45|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ]  Top

#1 The way in which Clinton came to contract a company described as a 'mom and pop' operation remains unclear. However Daily Mail Online has established a series of connections between the firm and the Democrat party.

IMO, this is far, far bigger than Watergate.
Posted by JohnQC 2015-08-18 10:08||   2015-08-18 10:08|| Front Page Top

#2 I knew this whole thing stunk.
Posted by DarthVader 2015-08-18 10:17||   2015-08-18 10:17|| Front Page Top

#3 Baffled by how Clinton decided to hire Platte River, ex-employees suggested David DeCamillis, the company's vice-president of sales and marketing might have had a hand in courting her business.

Another theory put forward was that Colorado governor John Hickenlooper recommended them to her. The Democratic Convention was held in Denver in 2008.

Tera said: 'David DeCamillis was a big Democrat. He went to the Democrat Convention.
'He definitely helped Platte River grow, he had a strong sales background. And he brought a lot of clients on, that was his role as the VP of sales.'

I thank you Tara. Your country thanks you.

Eight ball, side pocket !
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 10:17||   2015-08-18 10:17|| Front Page Top

#4 The UK Daily Mail - doing the reporting the US media can't be bothered to do.
Posted by Raj 2015-08-18 11:32||   2015-08-18 11:32|| Front Page Top

#5 As has been suggested here, peeling the Platte River Network onion is the key.

Obviously the FAR (Fed Acquisition Reg) for contracting was not followed. Who initiated the contract; DoS contracting office? [doubtful] Clinton Foundation? DNC? State of Colorado? The Clintons themselves? Other Gov't Agency ?

Hours charged to contract ?
Deliverables/reports ?
Scope of work ?
Who picked up the tab ?
Platte River pay taxes on the earnings ?
Government liaison/POC ?
Travel to client site, by whom ?
Travel to Gov't contract site, by whom ?
Contract related emails [separate from Clinton traffic] ?
Performance bonuses ?
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 11:38||   2015-08-18 11:38|| Front Page Top

#6 So now democrats qualify as an 8a set aside??
Posted by 49 pan 2015-08-18 11:52||   2015-08-18 11:52|| Front Page Top

#7 "Ethically Disadvantaged"
Posted by Frank G 2015-08-18 12:01||   2015-08-18 12:01|| Front Page Top

#8 Besoeker, I really doubt that this had any government contract. This was just a private email server for Hillary's private use. My son sets these things up for a living. So Hillary's server would be just like you or I might set up.

Except of course, I would be careful not to put any TS/SI/TK/NOFORN stuff on it.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2015-08-18 12:06||   2015-08-18 12:06|| Front Page Top

#9 Services for gov't entities involving gov't materials or personnel cannot be performed without an approved contract.

What you have suggested may be what happened Rambler, but it was illegal.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 12:12||   2015-08-18 12:12|| Front Page Top

#10 'The server is now in the hands of the FBI who took it off Platte River Networks hands last Wednesday'
Hope they used gloves
Poo poo pee do
Posted by Jan 2015-08-18 12:13||   2015-08-18 12:13|| Front Page Top

#11 C'mon Besoeker! Laws are for the little people. Hillary is too important and busy to be bothered with administrivia like government contracts.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2015-08-18 12:18||   2015-08-18 12:18|| Front Page Top

#12 IMO, this is far, far bigger than Watergate.

One of the principles of modern spin-doctoring is that you get out in front of the train wreck. Dump the info all at once on a Friday so it doesn't remain a steady drip, drip, drip in the news cycle, and so you, and not your opponents, can set the tone.

That Mrs. Bill is not doing this suggests the complete story is even worse than we suspect. And for anyone who can grasp the ugly implications of the Secretary of State running her own private email network, it's already pretty bad.

An alternative explanation is that Hillary simply thinks she is bullet-proof and teflon-coated and it will all simply fade away like Benghazi. This seems naive in the middle of a presidential election campaign. The Clintons are a lot of things, but naive isn't one of them.
Posted by SteveS 2015-08-18 12:19||   2015-08-18 12:19|| Front Page Top

#13 Except of course, I would be careful not to put any TS/SI/TK/NOFORN stuff on it.

Oh, great. Now you tell me!
Posted by SteveS 2015-08-18 12:25||   2015-08-18 12:25|| Front Page Top

#14 Probably at least a two step process:

On the 'receive' end, PLN could have had the ability to remote into the Beest's email in order that their tech guys/gals could lift the classification markings prior to her opening the traffic.

A remote process of that type might have required the Beest to monitor the email timelines in order to allow a few minutes or an hour delay for PLN to complete the sanitizing.

On the 'send' or transmit end, someone [gov't person/contractor] would have had to have had access to SIPR/JWICS boxes, and knowledge as to how to go about transferring classified data to an UNCLAS box and sending. A gov't person, sitting in front of the SIPR/JWICS box removing classification markings would have drawn the attention of someone, or a bunch of someones over that length of time

Whatever the process, I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 12:35||   2015-08-18 12:35|| Front Page Top

#15 Services for gov't entities involving gov't materials or personnel cannot be performed without an approved contract.

A government official may have a private email server. They cannot conduct government business on it, or pay for it with government funds.

From the timeline, it appears that the email server itself was paid for by either her foundation or her first presidential campaign. contract for email services came prior to confirmation (about a week) as SecState on 2009; the transaction was likely as a wind-down of her campaign as well.

"Sleazy" doesn't begin to cover it.
Posted by Pappy 2015-08-18 13:17||   2015-08-18 13:17|| Front Page Top

#16 A good friend saw his Air force career go into rapid descent when he left a Secret document on his desk in the Weapons office when he went down the hall to get a cup of coffee. The Sgt that reported him felt bad but it was his duty. Now we have this 'fiasco' and she still is seen as a viable candidate for president! Not my America anymore. HILLARY FOR PRISON/2016
Posted by Total War 2015-08-18 13:40||   2015-08-18 13:40|| Front Page Top

#17 I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.

I'm sure they do, as do a couple of people at State. What they're going to do about it I don't know.

Though if I were Trey Gowdy, I'd be really, really interested in finding the people who were entering/stripping security codes on the email, and get them in front of a House hearing. Get them to lawyer up and offer them a deal.

Pappy: good point and I think that was the genesis of the Hildaserver, from her 2008 campaign. She found it convenient then and found it even more convenient for her SoS time.
Posted by Steve White  2015-08-18 13:53||   2015-08-18 13:53|| Front Page Top

#18 I suspect the FBI is now fully cognizant of exactly how it all went down.

Of course it does - why do you think the FBI, which is rapidly turning into a Political operation, is investigating it? Fox, Henhouse, etc...

It'll be swept under the rug or someone will be made into a scapegoat. Otherwise there will be a Special Prosecutor.

This is a little bigger than 'outing' a so-called and classification-expired 'secret agent' like Plume.
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-08-18 15:03||   2015-08-18 15:03|| Front Page Top

#19 SteveS, that is the old way of doing it. The modern way of managing a political scandal is as follows:
(1) Deny everything
(2) Release info when absolutely forced to and perhaps not all do delay the process
(3) Complain about being persecuted for political reasons and suggest we should all move along because nobody has found anything.

Moveon.org was funded as stage 3 of the Clinton scandals. Hillary is following the same rulebook. Unfortunately what works for a sex scandal does not really work for incompetent treason. Poll numbers keep dropping because people are noticing the game this time.
Posted by rjschwarz 2015-08-18 15:09||   2015-08-18 15:09|| Front Page Top

#20 Yes, yes. But is her campaign in the toilet yet?
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2015-08-18 15:27||   2015-08-18 15:27|| Front Page Top

#21 Personally, I think having it in a mom-n-pop bathroom closet is a stroke of genius. No need for any of that fancy-shmancy encryption stuff because it was as safe and secure as if it had been at Fort Knox! No foreign intelligence agency would even think to look there!

Why doesn't anyone else think of this stuff?
Posted by gorb 2015-08-18 15:56||   2015-08-18 15:56|| Front Page Top

#22 The next revelation: an overseas system administrator?
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-08-18 15:59||   2015-08-18 15:59|| Front Page Top

#23 "This is the fourth visit by plumbers this week. First some guys with heavy Russian accents, then those Chinese dudes, then..."

Snark of the day.
Posted by Frank G 2015-08-18 15:59||   2015-08-18 15:59|| Front Page Top

#24 When Bill Clinton was Governor of Arkansas, and then President of the US, he had the means of covering for he and Hillary's crimes. Hillary does not have that luxury anymore.
Posted by Ebbomosh Hupemp2664 2015-08-18 16:34||   2015-08-18 16:34|| Front Page Top

#25 The next revelation: an overseas system administrator? Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-08-18 15:59|| 2015-08-18 15:59||

Well, if she was communicating with Non-U.S. personnel on the same system she was receiving 'high-side' traffic on, and it appears she was.... what happens next ?
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 16:35||   2015-08-18 16:35|| Front Page Top

#26 Besoeker, I don't think the sh!t storm has hit yet--it's still on the horizon brewing. Obama is in an interesting position. If he tries to cover it up, he looks bad or guilty. His best alternative is to let it go forward and say he didn't know which makes him look not in charge or incompetent. His choice is between incompetent and out of touch or complicit. It would be most interesting to know what the classified emails that were found said. The present estimate of classified material is about 20%. Who knows what Hillary's camp dumped or purged?
Posted by JohnQC 2015-08-18 16:54||   2015-08-18 16:54|| Front Page Top

#27 I think the next revelation is that Platte River was only holding the physical server and doing any physical opeations (like plugging it in, pushing the big red switch, network cabling, etc...) and the admin and support was done by a foreign, Chinese, company.
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-08-18 17:10||   2015-08-18 17:10|| Front Page Top

#28 And the server was running a bootleg version of Windows 2000 - in Chinese...
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-08-18 17:13||   2015-08-18 17:13|| Front Page Top

#29 The investigators need to know who cleaned the hard drives and how clean they got the drives. Sounds like the investigators need to put the heat and threats of jail time on some of the Beest's assistants to make them sing out the names of the IT guys that did the cleaning. Find associations and bring down the Hildabeest.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-08-18 17:28||   2015-08-18 17:28|| Front Page Top

#30 O needs to keep away from the Beest. She could bring him down. This could become a beautiful situation very ugly as events unfold.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-08-18 17:30||   2015-08-18 17:30|| Front Page Top

#31 I wonder about that AP. Everyone talks about how Champ will defend Hilarity from being indicted. If this continues to mushroom not only will he not be able to do that, he might get sucked into the whirlpool. In which case I expect him to torpedo her himself and call a press conference to do it.
Posted by Steve White 2015-08-18 18:26||   2015-08-18 18:26|| Front Page Top

#32 As Secretary of State, the Beest would have had to have emailed the Champ or his staff at some point. He was her boss! The fact it would have been sent on a non-.gov system would have immediately come to the attention of Champ's staff, the White House Communications Detachment and the Information Management Officer. It is very likely that the Champ knew what she was doing.

Throwing Clinton under the bus may not be an option for the Champ.
Posted by Besoeker 2015-08-18 18:48||   2015-08-18 18:48|| Front Page Top

#33 Are you people seriously suggesting that something bad can happen to Hillary? I mean, come-on---be your age.
Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-08-18 19:05||   2015-08-18 19:05|| Front Page Top

#34 I agree with grom. The confab this past weekend was to plan a strategy. Obama has denied knowing what was going on in his administration before and nothing came of it. They had to decide whitch minion to sacrifice.
Posted by Deacon Blues 2015-08-18 19:27||   2015-08-18 19:27|| Front Page Top

#35 We need a war to fill the news cycle...
Posted by BrerRabbit 2015-08-18 19:39||   2015-08-18 19:39|| Front Page Top

#36 a bathroom - LOW RENT!

Posted by 3dc 2015-08-18 20:07||   2015-08-18 20:07|| Front Page Top

#37 ValJar can take the fall. O knows nothing. He delegates to ValJar. On the other hand, if he got emails from the Beest, then he has them on his drives. Too many cooks getting into the perloo. This is becoming a sticky wicket for the Beest, and could become one for O by induction, so to speak.
Posted by Alaska Paul 2015-08-18 20:18||   2015-08-18 20:18|| Front Page Top

#38 champ may have had a default that sent anything from the beast to the spam file
Posted by lord garth 2015-08-18 20:45||   2015-08-18 20:45|| Front Page Top

#39 #38, AP - that ain't gonna happen. The puppeteer never pays the price while there's other pawns to throw out. Cheryl Mills, Huma, .....
Posted by Frank G 2015-08-18 20:50||   2015-08-18 20:50|| Front Page Top

#40 Pardons all around.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2015-08-18 21:18||   2015-08-18 21:18|| Front Page Top

#41 Watercooled servers!
Posted by European Conservative 2015-08-18 21:26||   2015-08-18 21:26|| Front Page Top

#42 What this tells Ms. Clinton: Someone who knows something about your server is talking to us. You don't know who it is. Therefore, until you peg the snitch, you have absolutely no idea what he, she or it are telling us about Hillaryworld.

Too funny!
Posted by Blossom Unains5562 2015-08-18 21:38||   2015-08-18 21:38|| Front Page Top

#43 "Well, it WAS sitting on the john so I wiped it."
Posted by Mullah Richard 2015-08-18 21:42||   2015-08-18 21:42|| Front Page Top

#44 This explains her piss-poor and shitty performance as Secretary of State.
Posted by CrazyFool 2015-08-18 23:33||   2015-08-18 23:33|| Front Page Top

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