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2006-08-17 Home Front: Politix

Der Spiegel Dons Der Kneepads and Interviews Jimmy Carter

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Posted by tu3031 2006-08-17 08:10|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Jimmy's in an active race to beat James Buchanan for the title of 'Worst President of the United States'. Run, Jimmy, run.

Posted by Glurt Flavitch2274 2006-08-17 09:40|| 2006-08-17 09:40|| Front Page Top

#2 Jimmy was bad as Prez, but not as bad as Buchannan.

However, Jimmuh has the worst EX-president award clinched hands down.

Posted by Oldcat 2006-08-17 10:10|| 2006-08-17 10:10|| Front Page Top

#3 Yes yes, Camp David accords. Such a success.
Really worked out well for Anwar Sadat and democracy in Egypt.

Posted by J. D. Lux 2006-08-17 10:17|| 2006-08-17 10:17|| Front Page Top

#4 Correct me if I am wrong but isn't The Camp David Accords the reason the US has been writing a $2 Billion check to Egypt every year as "foreign aid".

Posted by Eboreg Onhzna 2006-08-17 10:34|| 2006-08-17 10:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Sure it is. And that in tuern holds Mubaraks "strongman position.
See other thread on CAmp David "reformists" and see what you get when yoou don't support the "strongman".
Pretty muuch the same deal with Jordan.

Posted by J. D. Lux 2006-08-17 12:29|| 2006-08-17 12:29|| Front Page Top

#6 I think that if Andropov had been in power in 1977, we would have lost Western Europe.

I could go on endlessly about Carter's hypocrisies, but didn't he run for office in 1976 as a Bible Belt Christian Fundamentalist? "I've lusted in my heart," and all that...

Posted by 11A5S 2006-08-17 13:42|| 2006-08-17 13:42|| Front Page Top

#7 While he certainly was considered a "Christian", and I would say - pretty fundemental - he ran as an outsider, right after Nixon/Watergate and Gerald Ford was appointed. I could see he was going to win in March.

Yes, he confessed to "lusting in his heart", which made the main scream media wet its' pants.

Posted by Bobby 2006-08-17 13:48|| 2006-08-17 13:48|| Front Page Top

#8 The Contrarian Indicator has spoken! Bush is definitely doing the right thing!

I only had the stomach to read about 30% of this speech. I am so glad this man is no longer President. It pains me that he ever was. I will never understand how he got to be President. All he can do is wring his hands, think misguided thoughts, and talk about same. The guy is a total loon! If someone, anyone, else were to make these comments, he'd be declared certifiable. Not this guy. Why? Gahhhhh! I'm going to go find a sharp corner on a filing cabinet somewhere and beat my head on it.

Posted by gorb 2006-08-17 14:11|| 2006-08-17 14:11|| Front Page Top

#9 Never thought I'd do this, but I will. To quote the Dixie Twits (on U.S. soil, not foreign soil, no less):

"I'm ashamed that this man is from my home State, Georgia."

Now, to get back to the fisking at hand:

Another very serious departure from past policies is the separation of church and state, which I describe in the book. This has been a policy since the time of Thomas Jefferson and my own religious beliefs are compatible with this. The other principle that I described in the book is basic justice. We've never had an administration before that so overtly and clearly and consistently passed tax reform bills that were uniquely targeted to benefit the richest people in our country at the expense or the detriment of the working families of America.

I won't even get started on the Separation of Church and State issue. I will however take Jimmuh to task over his taxes issue. Federal income taxes were not implemented until sometime in the 19-teens. Payroll deduction taxes weren't implemented until well after that. Therefore, I'd be the Founding Fathers, not to mention Lincoln et al, would have severe issues with his "tax cuts for the rich." Taxes can't be much lower than 0, which they were until the 19-teens, now could they?

I don't think that Israel has any legal or moral justification for their massive bombing of the entire nation of Lebanon.

Uhm, I'm no UN expert, but isn't crossing a border, kidnapping a STATE's soldiers and killing other STATE's soldiers an "act of war" under int'l law? Next!

This administration has not attempted at all in the last six years to negotiate or attempt to negotiate a settlement between Israel and any of its neighbors or the Palestinians.

Israel doesn't have any real beef with it's neighbors (at least the States) except for maybe Syria. It DOES have issues with terrorists within those States, who are aided and abetted by said States. Also, when one side has NO ONE to "negotiate" with, it's pretty much a mute point.

...Hezbollah said they would comply, I hope Israel will comply...

Uh, was it just me, or did he miss Nasrallah saying they'd (Hezbollah) NEVER disarm (even after the mighty UN's resolution)? I think he's got his characters backwards in this statement.

I think most people believe that enough time has passed so that historical facts can be ignored.

I think that sums it up for Jimmuh. I believe he's now trying to re-write history to look favorably upon himself. What a complete ignoramus. "Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it" comes to mind.

And, of course, fundamentalists don't believe they can make mistakes, so when we permit the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo or Abu Ghraib, it's just impossible for a fundamentalist to admit that a mistake was made.

Boy, if that ain't the pot calling the kettle black, I don't know what is. HE was a "fundamentalist" (Baptist) back in office and HE admitted to "lusting in his heart," etc. Now that he has a beef with the Prez and thusly, with a lot of Baptists in general, he wants to project upon us. I, as a "fundie" have no qualms in "apologizing" for Gitmo/Abu Gharib/etc. HOWEVER, I won't do it until the jihadis STOP and apologize for Daniel Pearl, 9/11, USS Cole, WTC I, invading Kuwait (GW I), Beirut barracks bombing, Khobar Towers, African embassies bombing, Sudan, Somalia, homicide bombings in Israel, beheading contractors in Iraq, Leon Klinghoffer, Bali, Madrid, London, Renault burning in Paris, etc. UNTIL then, I will not apologize for something no worse than a bad day of frat hazing on any college campus in the U.S.

I think the administration learned a lesson, but I don't see any indication that the administration would ever admit that it did make a mistake and needed to learn a lesson. I haven't seen much indication, by the way, of your premise that this administration is now reconciling itself to other countries. I think that at this moment the United States and Israel probably stand more alone than our country has in generations.

Don't need to apologize if no mistake was made. The hypocrisy of the Demos (who are supposedly for the lil' man and the oppressed(tm)) abounds. EVEN without the WMD issue, Carter should be praising us for deposing someone who started 2 regional wars (vs. Iran and vs. Kuwait), raped, murdered and gassed his own folks and allowed them to live in squalor while he and his spawn lived like the sultan of Brunai.

Posted by BA 2006-08-17 14:54|| 2006-08-17 14:54|| Front Page Top

#10 ...massive bombing of the entire nation of Lebanon...

Well Jimmuh, some of us wish that were true, but it's not.

...we permit the torture of prisoners in Guantanamo...

Ditto.

Posted by Parabellum 2006-08-17 17:50|| 2006-08-17 17:50|| Front Page Top

#11 That this guy is a graduate of the United States Naval Academy shows that some skulls are too thick to have anything beaten through them.

"[H]igher education is the only product where the consumer tries to get as little out of it as possible."

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-17 18:32|| 2006-08-17 18:32|| Front Page Top

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