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2006-08-17 Home Front: Politix

Biden: Killing Terrorists Just Makes More Terrorists

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Posted by Anonymoose 2006-08-17 17:42|| || Front Page|| [11137 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 And not killing terrorists just makes more victims.

Posted by Flaigum Whelet4630 2006-08-17 17:59|| 2006-08-17 17:59|| Front Page Top

#2 I really hope his campaign picks up steam with the LLL Mo0nb@+5.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2006-08-17 18:04|| 2006-08-17 18:04|| Front Page Top

#3 Joe Biden is sort of the antithesis of "Speak softly and carry a big stick."

Posted by Teddy Roosevelt 2006-08-17 18:07|| 2006-08-17 18:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Between this and declaring war on Wal*Mart, I think he may have a good chance at the nomination. As for the election, the donks can probably hang it up now.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-17 18:19|| 2006-08-17 18:19|| Front Page Top

#5 Right. Killing more indians just makes more indians. Killing more Nazis just makes more Nazis.

And this man qualifies for the Senate of the United States. Quick get him a job in the bureaucracy of the UN. He'll fit right in. No frontal lobotomy required beforehand. It appears hes also got the dorsal covered as well.

Posted by Unumble Omoger6127 2006-08-17 18:28|| 2006-08-17 18:28|| Front Page Top

#6 I quote the Former Director General of the Punjab Police KPS Gill who fought a bloody counter-terrorist war and won.

"Terrorism in the Punjab didn't end because there was some political solution. It ended because we killed all the terrorists."

"I used to meet the same arguments in Punjab. People talk as if the terrorists represent some sort of inchoate democratic aspiration. But once terrorism was defeated in Punjab, the terrorist 'support base' vanished. Where is it now? These are falsehoods that only serve the terrorist cause. Terrorism does not recognise the normal conventions of politics and democracy, and cannot be countered by these. It is a completely immoral and unconstrained use of force and can only be countered by the use of force."

"There has, in every theatre of terrorist violence, certainly in South Asia and in other parts of what is referred to as the Third World, been a general, albeit implicit, assumption of popular support to terrorist movements far in excess of what actually exists on the ground or among the societies on whose behalf the terrorists claim to speak. Such assumptions are apparently ratified by the public statements of many leaders and even of the "common people" and the local media, from time to time. And yet, they are utterly false though this fact can only be confirmed after the terror has been conclusively defeated. This is precisely what happened in Punjab. In the end Eighties, I recall many a muddle-headed "liberal" arguing that "we" had lost the hearts of the "people of Punjab", and so there was little sense in holding on to a piece of land. Thousands, at times even hundreds of thousands, assembled in bhog ceremonies of slain terrorists, and the media pointed to this intractable evidence of the mass support that the Khalistanis enjoyed. But by 1992, when the terrorists were in open flight, there was visible elation in the streets, as markets began to remain open late into the evenings, and I recall the sheer jubilation that marked the first "musical night" organised by the Punjab police at Tarn Taran that was attended by thousands of people rediscovering their freedom. It was the same sense of relief that was visible among the crowds thronging the broken-down cinema halls in Kabul to stand in the midst of collapsed seats through a projection of the only film available a documentary on the mujahiddeen who drove out the Russian forces from Afghanistan in the 1980s."

Posted by john 2006-08-17 18:42|| 2006-08-17 18:42|| Front Page Top

#7 Killing enough terrorists narrows down the genepool of terrorists...

No DNA, no bombs away...

Posted by BigEd 2006-08-17 18:42|| 2006-08-17 18:42|| Front Page Top

#8 It only makes more terrorists if you don't kill enough of them. But so far, Biden may be right; we aren't killing nearly enough of them.

Posted by Glenmore">Glenmore 2006-08-17 19:02|| 2006-08-17 19:02|| Front Page Top

#9 Gotta exceed the breeding rate - and, since the wimmins have no rights and there's damned little you can do in Islam except seethe, march, and breed...

Posted by flyover 2006-08-17 19:12|| 2006-08-17 19:12|| Front Page Top

#10 Killing Terrorists Just Makes More Terrorists

Not if the remaining pieces are small enough. It's not like they're starfish.

Posted by Zenster 2006-08-17 19:12|| 2006-08-17 19:12|| Front Page Top

#11 Oh, and plan endlessly to kill infidels. Forgot that one.

Posted by flyover 2006-08-17 19:13|| 2006-08-17 19:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Good post John. Nobody talks about the abrupt end of Punjabi terrorism which in many ways was the precursor of current Ismalic terrorism, including blowing up planes.

The reason they don't talk about it was because it was conclusively won by killing (almost) all of the terrorists. We may yet see such an outcome to Sunni terrorism in Iraq.

Posted by phil_b 2006-08-17 20:10|| 2006-08-17 20:10|| Front Page Top

#13 "Killing Terrorists Just Makes More Terrorists"

If this so-called "logic" is true, please God don't anyone kill any Senators.

The American people suffer enough with the ones we already have.

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2006-08-17 20:13|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/page/15bk1/Home_Page.html] 2006-08-17 20:13|| Front Page Top

#14 "Joe Biden is sort of the antithesis of "Speak softly and carry a big stick.""

Speak loudly and carry a water weenie?

Posted by no mo uro 2006-08-17 20:19|| 2006-08-17 20:19|| Front Page Top

#15 Doesn't work that way for the common house fly. Where is he coming from?

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-17 20:20|| 2006-08-17 20:20|| Front Page Top

#16 The reason they don't talk about it was because it was conclusively won by killing (almost) all of the terrorists. We may yet see such an outcome to Sunni terrorism in Iraq.

Gill's men are thought to have disappeared almost 10 000 terrorists and their supporters. When the terrorists began to target the family members of policemen, the family members of terrorists were likewise killed.

Gill was a Sikh, exterminating a Sikh insurgency.

It will probably take a ruthless Iraqi Sunni policeman to end the terror in Iraq.

Posted by john 2006-08-17 20:32|| 2006-08-17 20:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Slow Joe is the perfect Donk candidate for 2008...oh please oh please oh please let it be so. You can't think on your feet when they're in your mouth

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-08-17 20:34|| 2006-08-17 20:34|| Front Page Top

#18 More from KPS Gill

We have people who have no understanding of the dynamics of terrorism engaged in a continuous and systematic denigration of police and paramilitary forces and the Army from purported 'human rights' platforms, and many of these people are part of organisations that are no more than overground fronts of the terrorists themselves. But worse, we have entirely respectable and eminent figures in the 'establishment' mouthing utter rubbish about 'root causes'.

I recall the first time I heard about 'root causes' in Punjab was not during the course or peak of terrorism, but after the scourge had been defeated. A learned professor at one of Delhi's most renowned universities (part of that renown is now tainted with notoriety because of the proximity of many of its luminaries to Left-wing Extremism in India and Nepal) where I was speaking, interjected with a question regarding the 'root causes' and the neglect of the 'people's demands', which had led to terrorism. I asked him what these demands and root causes were in Punjab, one of the India's most affluent States, and how they had been addressed - since terrorism had ended now. Having 'studied' the subject from a safe distance he obviously had no idea and sought to wriggle out of the discussion by saying I should know what these demands and causes were. But I knew of no 'root causes' in the Punjab, and no justifiable demands that could explain the slaughter of innocents.

Posted by john 2006-08-17 20:55|| 2006-08-17 20:55|| Front Page Top

#19 Joe, I can tell by listening to you that you probably flunked most classes. The topic here is subtraction , Joe. Goes like this...1500 Muzzies attacking, all blown to hell...therefore 1500-1500=0. Got it Joe. None left.

Posted by SOP35/Rat 2006-08-17 21:10|| 2006-08-17 21:10|| Front Page Top

#20 Thus we see why he's called Slow Joe. And it has nothing to do with how fast he walks.

Posted by Jonathan 2006-08-17 21:53|| 2006-08-17 21:53|| Front Page Top

#21 It is true if you disable them bad enough it bankrupts their families to support them and that reduces the ability to buy guns and weapons for other family members...
So perhaps we should follow Biden's advice and maim terrorists instead of kill them?

Posted by 3dc 2006-08-17 21:55|| 2006-08-17 21:55|| Front Page Top

#22 I prefer the KPS Gill approach.. kill the lot of them...

Posted by john 2006-08-17 22:06|| 2006-08-17 22:06|| Front Page Top

#23 Okay, Joe. What's your plan? The plan, Joe? What is it?
Why don't you see if John Fn Kerry will let you borrow his, seeing how he won't be needing it anymore.

Posted by tu3031 2006-08-17 22:29|| 2006-08-17 22:29|| Front Page Top

#24 Fine with me. Eventually, the kill rate will excede their replishment rate and the problem will go away.

Fucking asshat Biden.

Posted by DathVader 2006-08-17 22:58|| 2006-08-17 22:58|| Front Page Top

#25 What else would you expect from a man who plagiarized Neil Kinnock's stump speech even down to talking about his coal miner parents? Biden only gets points as an intellectual by comparison to his fellow Democrats.

Posted by RWV 2006-08-17 23:50|| 2006-08-17 23:50|| Front Page Top

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