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2023-08-14 -Signs, Portents, and the Weather-

‘This Was Not a Natural Disaster': ‘Whistleblowers' Raise Disturbing Questions About Deadly Maui Wildfire

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Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2023-08-14 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 The island’s 3,000 inhabitants have been uncertain about Ellison’s intentions for Lanai. However, in a recent interview on CNBC’s "Closing Bell with Maria Bartiromo," Ellison disclosed his vision of transforming the island into an eco-friendly haven, emphasizing electric vehicles, organic agriculture, and solar energy.

Eminent domain on steroids ?

Alien tracker beams ?

Volcanic gas fire ?

Posted by Besoeker 2023-08-14 07:20|| 2023-08-14 07:20|| Front Page Top

#2 Reports coming in on Maui, expecting 500-1000 dead, many of them school children home from schools being closed unexpectedly.

Posted by Cleared Cookies Lost Nic 2023-08-14 09:21|| 2023-08-14 09:21|| Front Page Top

#3 Hawaii changed their eminent domain laws this year. Do they use is claim the burn out? That will be the tell.

Not a natural disaster: That's why the sirens didn't go off. The sirens only blare during natural disasters and false flag missile launches.

Posted by mossomo 2023-08-14 12:31|| 2023-08-14 12:31|| Front Page Top

#4 WTH my grammar: Do they use eminent domain to claim the burn out? That will be the tell.

Posted by mossomo 2023-08-14 12:33|| 2023-08-14 12:33|| Front Page Top

#5 "Maui fire survivors describe nighttime looting and rerouted supply drops as local leadership botches emergency response"

https://www.insider.com/maui-fire-survivors-leadership-botched-emergency-response-looting-first-aid-2023-8

Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-08-14 13:25|| 2023-08-14 13:25|| Front Page Top

#6 New Orleans and Katrina come to mind.

Posted by Bobby 2023-08-14 14:43|| 2023-08-14 14:43|| Front Page Top

#7 Anyone familiar with Santa Ana winds knows how quickly they can drive fires. Lahaina got hit with Super Santa Ana conditions because of the hurricane system passing to the south. That part of West Maui is very dry in the months leading up to August. The combination of an energized ramshackle electrical grid, dry fuel in the form of invasive grasses and winds gusting to hurricane strength is a formula for disaster. Now DEW or even arson (though that is a possibility) required. Lahaina town was full of wood structures built long before fire codes that were grandfathered "island style".

A big surprise to me was how little Fire Department capacity Maui County has: 60ish on duty at any time; 13 trucks; 2 ladders; 1 MD-500 chopper. This is spread across three large islands: Maui, Lanai, Moloka'i. No off road fire vehicles on islands with plenty of combustible areas away from roads. Maui PD was fighting a large fire in Kula 90 minutes or so away from Lahaina and another fire in the Kihei area an hour away. The West Maui fire crews would have been overwhelmed early.

Maui and most of the other islands are blanketed with warning sirens. Why no alert? Huge, huge failure.

One conspiracy angle I can't get my head around is that the Maui Chief of Police was previously the Incident Commander for the Las Vegas mass shooting event.

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2023-08-14 17:24|| 2023-08-14 17:24|| Front Page Top

#8 I was in Hawaii- Kauai and Hawaii islands - a few years ago and spent my time getting as far back in the sticks as I could go. The amount of long, dry grass everywhere was striking. Combined with a breezy climate, pronounced dry season, steep hillsides and old wooden houses , made an ominous combination for an old bushie from Australia. Wrote Hawaii off as an option to move to.
Went home to Oz, to the North coast of NSW. Lost house in wildfire, November 2019. So it goes…
My sympathies to all Hawaiians. This is dreadful.

Posted by Ululating Platypus 2023-08-14 20:04|| 2023-08-14 20:04|| Front Page Top

#9 On the road home listening to KFI and there were also reports of no water pressure at the Fire Hydrants

Posted by Frank G 2023-08-14 22:20|| 2023-08-14 22:20|| Front Page Top

#10 UP -- I'm truly sorry about your house. Very cool nym, by the way.

Posted by Matt 2023-08-14 22:47|| 2023-08-14 22:47|| Front Page Top

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