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2011-08-14 China-Japan-Koreas
Pentagon Plans for War with China?
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Posted by tipper 2011-08-14 15:28|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ]  Top

#1 Why is this a story? The Pentagon plans for war with everyone and anyone. It's the primary reason for its existence.
Posted by PBMcL 2011-08-14 16:01||   2011-08-14 16:01|| Front Page Top

#2 it's a story because the economic context suggests that it will may actually happen sooner or later.
Posted by Goober Hitler2557 2011-08-14 16:12||   2011-08-14 16:12|| Front Page Top

#3 in a related story, the Pakistan ISI gave the ChiComs access to the crashed Black Hawk from the Bin Laden raid; here's the link:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/14/us-pakistan-china-usa-idUSTRE77D2BT20110814
Posted by USN,Ret. 2011-08-14 16:42||   2011-08-14 16:42|| Front Page Top

#4 I want to see the Canadian invasion plans.

/This story is not news
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2011-08-14 17:50||   2011-08-14 17:50|| Front Page Top

#5 That's WarPlan Crimson:

Up the traditional invasion NY routes to seize Montreal-Quebec line --- while a second assault is mounted on Hull-Toronto.... there's something in there about BC but I'm not familiar with it.
Posted by S 2011-08-14 18:02||   2011-08-14 18:02|| Front Page Top

#6 China and the US have been planning for war with each other since the 1980s. However, the Chinese lack "deep water sensibilities", which the US has lived and breathed since its founding. This has given the USN any number of strategic advantages that it has carefully exploited.

And in their effort to challenge the US for the Pacific, the Indians decided that China was a major sea threat to them as well. And they, as inheritors of the British naval sensibility, has made them effective warship builders. And with their top notch engineering and mathematical skills, formidable weapons designers.

This has put China in the unenviable position of having to consider fighting two major sea powers at once, or at best, fighting India before India can become #2 to America in sea power, leaving China as #3.

And China as also initiated its gradualism strategy to muscle and threaten everyone else in the region, which has achieved nothing, except to make them a lot of enemies.

The end result of all this PPPP is that China might get scorched badly enough for it to give up the whole blue water game and go back to being only brown.
Posted by Anonymoose 2011-08-14 19:30||   2011-08-14 19:30|| Front Page Top

#7 I thought the plan to war with Canada started with kidnapping Shatner and Celine Dione.
Posted by rjschwarz 2011-08-14 19:31||   2011-08-14 19:31|| Front Page Top

#8 D *** NG IT, I know for a fact that POTUS Alan Alda + Rhea Perlman tried to fight a war agz Canada but no one came.
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-08-14 19:34||   2011-08-14 19:34|| Front Page Top

#9 This has given the USN any number of strategic advantages that it has carefully exploited.

Unfortunately shipbuilding no longer appears to be one of them.

Why do we have more admirals than ships?
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-08-14 20:33||   2011-08-14 20:33|| Front Page Top

#10 
I thought the plan to war with Canada started with kidnapping Shatner and Celine Dione.


As far as I know, Shatner is a full-time US resident. If not, we can control him by taking over his horse farm in Kentucky.
Posted by Rob Crawford 2011-08-14 20:33||   2011-08-14 20:33|| Front Page Top

#11 http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/world/2010-02/17/c_13177342.htm

Cyber war games in DC.

China has 485 million internet users. Largest in the world. They have had many government cyber/hacker/virus attacks from US and India. The address is not important because it may not be actual IP address. China had 45000 government cyber/hacker/virus attacks last year. Then who knows N Korea may have interests "make them a lot of enemies"(Annoymoose).
Posted by Dale 2011-08-14 20:35||   2011-08-14 20:35|| Front Page Top

#12 Planning for is different from planning to. Alarmists pretend they're the same.
Posted by Richard Aubrey  2011-08-14 21:34||   2011-08-14 21:34|| Front Page Top

#13 "I want to see the Canadian invasion plans."

We'd have plans, if there was anything in the US we'd actually want...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-14 22:11||   2011-08-14 22:11|| Front Page Top

#14 You mean like...the Stanley Cup?
Posted by tu3031 2011-08-14 22:19||   2011-08-14 22:19|| Front Page Top

#15 Then why are there so many snow birds in the USA?

If we wanted an international incident, we'd deport Celine Dione.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-08-14 22:20||   2011-08-14 22:20|| Front Page Top

#16 "Then why are there so many snow birds in the USA?"

I don't know, but I'm booking a trip to Cuba with the wife and kids for this winter...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-14 22:24||   2011-08-14 22:24|| Front Page Top

#17 INDJUH = INDIA may be out of it ...

* DEFENCE.PK/FORUMS > INDIA: COASTAL SECURITY
"S-I-N-K" BLUE-WATER AMBITIONS.

India's got the heart for a blue-water Navy but not the numbers of modern Warships = Mil Assets to achieve such + engage in high-profile International NAVEX+ "Show the Flag", etc. missions while also simul deterring or fighting post-Mumbai/26-11 PAK Bad Boyz + now looming Somali, Indonesian Pirate threats.

* SAME > INDIANS WARN OF INVASION. Pro-BJP Tamil Nadu Protestors to attempt to reclaim + set up Indian flag on Sri Lankan island of KACHCHATHEEVU.

Lets call it ISLAND "K" for convenience.

DOIN' A "SPRATLY" [Nansha], PARACEL [Xisha], "DAOYU" [Senkaku], DOKKDO, or SOUTH KURILS???

[GUAM FLAG oer IWO JIMA + BONINS here].
Posted by JosephMendiola 2011-08-14 22:30||   2011-08-14 22:30|| Front Page Top

#18 I don't know, but I'm booking a trip to Cuba with the wife and kids for this winter...

I'm very happy; for both of you.
Posted by badanov 2011-08-14 22:34|| http://www.freefirezone.org  2011-08-14 22:34|| Front Page Top

#19 "If we wanted an international incident, we'd deport Celine Dione."

Hopefully not back here...send her to France, they love her there, I hear...
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-14 22:36||   2011-08-14 22:36|| Front Page Top

#20 Well...guess he showed us.
When you down there, ask the average Cuban where they're going for vacation.
Posted by tu3031 2011-08-14 22:41||   2011-08-14 22:41|| Front Page Top

#21 Be sure to make generous use of Cuba's world class health system. The return trip is much cheaper as parcel.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-08-14 23:11||   2011-08-14 23:11|| Front Page Top

#22 "Be sure to make generous use of Cuba's world class health system."

True. From what I hear, it's a hell of a lot better than the American...but not quite as good as ours. Phooey..
Posted by Shakey Steve 2011-08-14 23:15||   2011-08-14 23:15|| Front Page Top

#23 I'll bet you're praying you don't have to find out.
Not that you'd admit it, of course...
Posted by tu3031 2011-08-14 23:37||   2011-08-14 23:37|| Front Page Top

#24 Ask the Torontans about coming down to shop in Buffalo, Shakey Steve, and drinking in bars where Canadian money is still accepted at par in thanks for sheltering our people in Iran back in '79, and where the locals know all the words to 'O Canada' at the hockey games, eh?
Posted by trailing wife 2011-08-14 23:48||   2011-08-14 23:48|| Front Page Top

#25 Yeah. And they don't boo the anthem either...
Posted by tu3031 2011-08-14 23:50||   2011-08-14 23:50|| Front Page Top

#26 Keep thinking that Shakey and you or your family member come home in a body bag.
Posted by Eohippus Phater7165 2011-08-14 23:51||   2011-08-14 23:51|| Front Page Top

#27 Thought they were planning war with China since the '50s.
Posted by swksvolFF 2011-08-14 23:59||   2011-08-14 23:59|| Front Page Top

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