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2019-08-10 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Frank G 2019-08-10 09:15|| || Front Page|| [10328 views ] Top

#1 Rantburg called it.

Awfully convenient for a lot of people he died under a suicide watch. I guess the guards were told just to watch him do it. Or help.

Posted by DarthVader 2019-08-10 09:27|| 2019-08-10 09:27|| Front Page Top

#2 Arkancide or faked death?

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 09:28|| 2019-08-10 09:28|| Front Page Top

#3 Agurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein

Right. They always leave the head uncovered when removing a body. Smells like bullsh*t...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 09:30|| 2019-08-10 09:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Now there is no legal process to continue to expose his activities and the other associated people.

Posted by Glenmore 2019-08-10 09:30|| 2019-08-10 09:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Clintoncide more like it. Guess they never heard of suicide watch for prisoners. Isn't that why they take away their belts first thing?

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 09:32|| 2019-08-10 09:32|| Front Page Top

#6 Very determined - shot himself in the back of the head, three times, then choked himself to death with his bare hands.

Posted by Glenmore 2019-08-10 09:36|| 2019-08-10 09:36|| Front Page Top

#7 He never even made it to gen pop did he? One of the trustees must've got to him.

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 09:40|| 2019-08-10 09:40|| Front Page Top

#8 New Michael Wolfe book spun from whole cloth in 3-2-1...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 09:56|| 2019-08-10 09:56|| Front Page Top

#9 Not surprised. This has been mentioned as a possibility quite a few times on Rantburg over the time since Epstein has been incarcerated.

I doubt the fallout from this is over.

Posted by JohnQC 2019-08-10 09:58|| 2019-08-10 09:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Will he receive a ritual burial at sea?

Posted by Classical_Liberal 2019-08-10 10:06|| 2019-08-10 10:06|| Front Page Top

#11 The security video disappeared or there was none?

Posted by JohnQC 2019-08-10 10:06|| 2019-08-10 10:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Either felt he was untouchable or was just plain stupid. If he really was a billionaire who owned his own island, what was he doing in CONUS?

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 10:06|| 2019-08-10 10:06|| Front Page Top

#13 See the end of the movie Swordfish...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 10:07|| 2019-08-10 10:07|| Front Page Top

#14 Here ya go. Creepy how Travolta actually does the Epstien pursed lip smirk for a moment...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 10:11|| 2019-08-10 10:11|| Front Page Top

#15 ^^^^^^^^^^^

I love the nightlife
I got to boogie, on the disco 'round, oh yeah
Oh, I love the nightlife
I got to boogie, on the disco 'round, oh yeah…

Posted by Don Vito Hatrack3802 2019-08-10 10:12|| 2019-08-10 10:12|| Front Page Top

#16 Well. That didn't take long. This tidbit just released.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/08/breaking-new-court-documents-reveal-bill-clinton-held-private-party-on-epsteins-pedophile-island/

May want to consider giving the Clintons a blanket pardon and assigning them to CIA wet work.

Posted by Mercutio 2019-08-10 10:32|| 2019-08-10 10:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Not the Clintons - whoever the Clintons hire. Whoever it is they must be one of the best in the world.

Posted by CrazyFool 2019-08-10 10:41|| 2019-08-10 10:41|| Front Page Top

#18 If he was a slick as Willy, death drop documents soon. Heck they may even be real but the death sort of kills the refutation process for whom ever is in them.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-08-10 10:47|| 2019-08-10 10:47|| Front Page Top

#19 There were a lot of powerful and rich at-risk-people possibly involved in this sex and sex trafficking scandal across the world who wanted Epstein dead. Who would be capable?

Posted by JohnQC 2019-08-10 10:54|| 2019-08-10 10:54|| Front Page Top

#20 Let's see the videos from his safes.

Oh wait, the FBI doesn't know how to unlock them, so ...
never mind.

Posted by Lex 2019-08-10 10:54|| 2019-08-10 10:54|| Front Page Top

#21 Sometimes the FBI is unable to unlock and unlocked door... Depending on who is in charge.

Posted by CrazyFool 2019-08-10 10:58|| 2019-08-10 10:58|| Front Page Top

#22 Guess they never heard of suicide watch for prisoners.

He has supposedly been on suicide watch since his last attempt.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-10 11:09|| 2019-08-10 11:09|| Front Page Top

#23 Coincidence that the latest accusations target top US politicians and moneymen - including a respected former senator (Mitchell) and a former Dem presidential candidate & Hispanic governor (Richardson)?

And that's only what one of the girls revealed.

This guy's tentacles went all over the Establishment. We need to see those videos, and also all the money flows.

This movie ain't over. Hell, the movie trailer isn't even over.

Posted by Lex 2019-08-10 11:09|| 2019-08-10 11:09|| Front Page Top

#24 The suicide note was signed.

"Signed, Epstein's Mother"

Posted by Injun Bucket8891 2019-08-10 11:11|| 2019-08-10 11:11|| Front Page Top

#25 #25 - Heh

Posted by Frank G 2019-08-10 11:23|| 2019-08-10 11:23|| Front Page Top

#26 Who do you think is really driving it? My money is on Hillary. She is purely evil, power-mongering, an acolyte of Alinsky and Soros.

She has to protect her position at any cost - see Benghazi for example. And that includes protecting Bill. Probably part of the deal Bill has with her for being her beard and booster. Bill was supposed to get her to be President (with some help from Soros and the hard left power brokers). Trump really threw a spanner into the works. She no longer has the ability to actively use the government to cover up all the things she did in anticipation of being elected.

If it was all left to Billy -- and Hillary was not in the picture after Juanita Broaddrick -- I'd bet you lunch at McDonald's that Bill would still be in Arkansas hanging out eating chicken wings and trying to score with suburban housewives at the local Applebees. Without her pushing him, I think her might have ened up as the good ole boy divorced playboy former Governor (nothing more) - as long as he could get laid or a BJ, and minor celeb status.

Posted by Injun Bucket8891 2019-08-10 11:23|| 2019-08-10 11:23|| Front Page Top

#27 A combination of desperation and rubbing the kulaks' faces in how rigged the system is, "so you may as well give up."

#3 Agurney carrying a man who looked like Epstein

Right. They always leave the head uncovered when removing a body. Smells like bullsh*t..

We never saw photos of Osama's body. It's like they want to discourage some (us) and not discourage others (the Muzz)

Posted by charger 2019-08-10 11:40|| 2019-08-10 11:40|| Front Page Top

#28 It is a national disgrace that we can't keep a prisoner alive.

Posted by ruprecht 2019-08-10 11:58|| 2019-08-10 11:58|| Front Page Top

#29 What's that saying on Death Row? "Them without the capital gets the punishment." A billion here or there just doesn't go as far as it used to...

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 12:01|| 2019-08-10 12:01|| Front Page Top

#30 #29 Agreed.

And these revolting hypocrites preen and posture endlessly about their supposed moral superiority to the Orange One, to Netanyahu, Viktor Orban, Putin ....

Posted by Lex 2019-08-10 12:01|| 2019-08-10 12:01|| Front Page Top

#31 Actually I find this a bit curious. Any half-competent blackmailer (is there any doubt here?) makes sure that his victims understand that the blackmailer's untimely demise will result in release of the bad stuff. Did the blackmail targets decide they had nothing left to lose and could manage/suppress the release?

/tinfoilhat

Posted by PBMcL 2019-08-10 13:03|| 2019-08-10 13:03|| Front Page Top

#32 You can add this to the 'pics' for posting.

Posted by Procopius2k 2019-08-10 13:11|| 2019-08-10 13:11|| Front Page Top

#33 Look for an FBI report on Epstein's cause and manner of death to come out in 6 to 8 months. Will be inconclusive of course.

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 13:14|| 2019-08-10 13:14|| Front Page Top

#34 Will be inconclusive of course.

Especially if he yelled Allan's Snackbar right before he died.

Posted by M. Murcek 2019-08-10 13:29|| 2019-08-10 13:29|| Front Page Top

#35 He didn't really have a bright future to look at.

Posted by European Conservative 2019-08-10 13:30|| 2019-08-10 13:30|| Front Page Top

#36 Jail cells can be made suicide-resistant but not suicide proof. Article about this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-23951747

You limit the ways a person can commit suicide. You remove anchor points and you limit materials that can be used for ligature.

Barr says he is livid that this could happen to a prisoner in Federal custody and this will be thoroughly investigated. The questions for Barr is suicide or murder? If suicide, who dropped the ball. Is there evidence from surveillance cameras? Who was charged with watching him?

Posted by JohnQC 2019-08-10 14:56|| 2019-08-10 14:56|| Front Page Top

#37 Hat tip to whomever posted the nurse graphic.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-08-10 15:26|| 2019-08-10 15:26|| Front Page Top

#38 They took him off suicide watch and the guards weren't doing their rounds. How convenient.

Posted by gorb 2019-08-10 15:38|| 2019-08-10 15:38|| Front Page Top

#39 The suicide watch should have been upgraded to a suicide warning in time to prepare...

Posted by BrerRabbit 2019-08-10 16:12|| 2019-08-10 16:12|| Front Page Top

#40 Suicide watch in his case meant "See that he commits suicide."

Posted by Dron66046 2019-08-10 16:18|| 2019-08-10 16:18|| Front Page Top

#41 Does anybody REALLY think we are going to vote our way out of this?

Posted by SR-71 2019-08-10 16:58|| 2019-08-10 16:58|| Front Page Top

#42 The people who inconvenience the royals do tend to end up devoid of life, only have to look at Diana to see how that works and remember the spooks of Britain all have a crown on their emblems, they work for the crown first and foremost.
Plus: >>>>>>>
https://twitter.com/klasfeldreports/status/1160188170698469376?s=12

Posted by Ichnusa 2019-08-10 17:18|| 2019-08-10 17:18|| Front Page Top

#43 Does anybody REALLY think we are going to vote our way out of this?

Yes. The Clintons will never hold power again, even if they never go to jail, and will never again have a fraction of the earning power they had through 2016. Messers. Brennan, Clapper, etc. will never work for the government again, and will be resented for losing, even if they never go to jail. And so forth. Also, behind the scenes the executive branch is shrinking in terms — slightly in terms of manpower, much more significantly in terms of the number of regulations on the books. And all the while oil and natural gas production are inceasing, permanently changing the balance of power in both at home and abroad.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-10 17:24|| 2019-08-10 17:24|| Front Page Top

#44 Fair enough TW but when Texas becomes Mexico North all bets are off. No more Republican presidents and hence 100% liberal supreme court. It's just a matter of time.

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 17:58|| 2019-08-10 17:58|| Front Page Top

#45 Whoops! Not to mention the sheer number of Constitution-oriented, conservative judges approved at all levels up through the Supreme Court, and more to come.

And China may well implode from unsecured debt, after which it will be limited in its ability to influence events abroad, while Iran is not so slowly being strangled by American sanctions, no matter how certain European countries scramble to cover the treaty they worked so hard to make happen. While all the bad guys have criminal enterprises providing a steady cash flow, they all prefer the ease of acquiring funds legitimately, or so it seems to me.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-10 18:02|| 2019-08-10 18:02|| Front Page Top

#46 Fair enough TW but when Texas becomes Mexico North all bets are off.

More so than it is now, jpal, and has been for a few decades? Texas and the border counties are where Mexico’s narco bosses park their families as much as they can. They want law and order and stability on our side of the border, so they can create mayhem on the southern side without having to worry.

I do not believe it is a matter of time, any more than I believe Socialism is inevitable. I just read the other day that millions of names have quietly been removed from voter rolls this past year, mostly in the form of non-responses to “If you, dear Voter, do not return this post card in a timely manner confirming that you still live at this address, your name will be deregistered.” So that, too, will be a difference.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-10 18:09|| 2019-08-10 18:09|| Front Page Top

#47 I was talking 50 to 100 years from now. Conservative judges appointed by Trump are nice and all but they tend to die off like we all do. What I'm saying is Texas is going Democrat in the not too distant future and it's over then as far as the judiciary is concerned. Unless future Dem presidents decide to start appointing strict constructionists to the courts.

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 18:14|| 2019-08-10 18:14|| Front Page Top

#48 Fifty to 100 years? I can’t think that far ahead, jpal. We’ll have done our best — if our children and grandchildren are not willing to do what needs to be done, that will be their choice, as the choices in this time are ours.

Posted by trailing wife 2019-08-10 18:21|| 2019-08-10 18:21|| Front Page Top

#49 Why wouldn't it have been suicide? Somebody carefully explained to him what was waiting for him in the general population once he was convicted. The rest was up to him.

I'm agnostic that any given one of the celebrity names has a friend of a friend in the general prison population, but with so many names, I'm almost 100% sure that at least one of them does.

Posted by james 2019-08-10 18:28|| https://idontknowbut.blogspot.com 2019-08-10 18:28|| Front Page Top

#50 What if Epstein isn't the blackmailer but the front for them, then the dynamic becomes the blackmailer closing the mouth of the agent who might start to squeal. This has to be a very very powerful entity or collection of entities, and among them I believe is the Mossad, for whom Epstein provided great leverage and sources. Not to say others weren't also of a mind to shut his piehole, but a high viz prisoner in fed custody, after a recent assault? Seriously, this took power at the highest levels, and perhaps he isn't even actually dead.......an awful lot stops if he is legally dead even if he is still above room temperature somewhere!

Posted by NoMoreBS 2019-08-10 18:32|| 2019-08-10 18:32|| Front Page Top

#51 Mods . . . .

Posted by gorb 2019-08-10 19:16|| 2019-08-10 19:16|| Front Page Top

#52 Anyway, if those DVDs are encrypted, him being dead surely makes it that much harder to prosecute anyone unless he left the password with someone. Assuming nobody knows who this mystery person is, of course.

Posted by gorb 2019-08-10 19:20|| 2019-08-10 19:20|| Front Page Top

#53 From your lips to G_d's ear TW. I am losing hope for the traditional USA.

Posted by SR-71 2019-08-10 19:41|| 2019-08-10 19:41|| Front Page Top

#54 Yes. The Clintons will never hold power again

Holding office and holding power are two different things.

See the cases of Donald Trump (holds office, but not much power) versus swamp creatures like Obama, the Clintons, Jarrett, etc. (don't hold office, but clearly have plenty of power)

Whoops! Not to mention the sheer number of Constitution-oriented, conservative judges approved at all levels up through the Supreme Court, and more to come.

Some of whom were Obama nominees. And I get a distinct whiff of squish from Kavanaugh.

And I'm a bit of a broken record on this, but I think it's unwise to put too many eggs in the judge basket.

Even the good ones can be compromised or "grow in office" or be Scalia'd.

#48 Fifty to 100 years? I can’t think that far ahead, jpal.

That's fair.

We can't be expected to spend a lot of time contemplating, in great detail, where society is headed over the long haul.

There's work to do, children to raise, bills to pay.

That's why we put statesmen in positions of authority to at least occasionally think about these things.

But that doesn't work when we have a venal, blinkered ruling class whose only talents are getting and keeping power, and enjoying the perks thereof.

Those girls on Epstein Island were somebody's kids and grandkids, after all.

Posted by charger 2019-08-10 19:44|| 2019-08-10 19:44|| Front Page Top

#55 Well said charger, very well said.

Posted by Besoeker 2019-08-10 20:53|| 2019-08-10 20:53|| Front Page Top

#56 Got him, Gorb

Posted by Frank G 2019-08-10 21:03|| 2019-08-10 21:03|| Front Page Top

#57 Rumor's going around Epstein requested a pair of extra long shoelaces and was given them with a note that said don't screw it up this time.

Posted by jpal 2019-08-10 21:11|| 2019-08-10 21:11|| Front Page Top

#58 What the hell is happening to our republic?

Posted by Lex 2019-08-10 21:34|| 2019-08-10 21:34|| Front Page Top

#59 The range of this man's connections is breathtaking. It extends across totally different domains and social circles, from DC to Harvard, from hedge funds to lawyers and British royalty, from elderly scientists to the Clintons.

There is much, much more here than meets the eye.

I predict that this will be the biggest story of the early 20th century for our corrupt and desiccated old Republic.

We need to clean house.

Posted by Lex 2019-08-10 21:49|| 2019-08-10 21:49|| Front Page Top

#60 Compare with the suicide of Ghislaine Maxwells father, Robert Maxwell, another world class ruthless sleazebag up from Nowheresville. He took the ride as far as he could, then when he was found out, slid off the stern of his yacht into the Med in the wee small hours. No consequences for him either, and it was so good while it lasted.

Posted by Grunter 2019-08-10 22:49|| 2019-08-10 22:49|| Front Page Top

#61 Murdered. The night of his death standard, nightly cell checks were eliminated per Brietbart.

Posted by Phaick Uneretle6310 2019-08-10 23:04|| 2019-08-10 23:04|| Front Page Top

#62 #31 Did the blackmail targets decide they had nothing left to lose and could manage/suppress the release?

Or... did third party deliberately trigger doomsday release? For the lulz, as you crazy kids say, or [dons bent sheet pan helmet] with some higher motive?

Posted by Jash Omager6238 2019-08-10 23:59|| 2019-08-10 23:59|| Front Page Top

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