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Bush says US at war with "Islamic fascists"
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Posted by lotp 2006-08-10 14:10|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Congrats to Bush he finally coming around. :)
Posted by djohn66 2006-08-10 14:25||   2006-08-10 14:25|| Front Page Top

#2 That will piss off CAIR.

Good.
Posted by DarthVader 2006-08-10 14:25||   2006-08-10 14:25|| Front Page Top

#3 U.N. Cease Fire Draft: Embargo on Hizbullah But No Disarmament
21:14 Aug 10, '06 / 16 Av 5766


(IsraelNN.com) A revised draft for a United Nations Security Council resolution calls for an embargo on arms for Hizbullah terrorists but does not provide for disarming them, according to an Israeli government source.

The new draft also calls for an effective international force to patrol southern Lebanon. United States State Department Middle East envoy Robert Welch is in Jerusalem and has met with government officials on the revised draft drawn up by France and the United States
Posted by Legolas 2006-08-10 14:26||   2006-08-10 14:26|| Front Page Top

#4 war, what war?
Posted by Legolas 2006-08-10 14:26||   2006-08-10 14:26|| Front Page Top

#5 when is terrorism not terrorism - when the victim is Israel
Posted by Legolas 2006-08-10 15:00||   2006-08-10 15:00|| Front Page Top

#6 Is this the first time he's said it? I heard him on the radio and he was halting, like he knew if he said it he was going to get creamed. But at least he said it.
Posted by remoteman 2006-08-10 15:01||   2006-08-10 15:01|| Front Page Top

#7 The US Screws Israel Again
Posted by Legolas 2006-08-10 15:02||   2006-08-10 15:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Islamofascist is wrong fascist werent racist by philosophy. Islamonazis is much more appropriate.
Posted by Clerert Uneamp2772 2006-08-10 15:03||   2006-08-10 15:03|| Front Page Top

#9 An effective international force to patrol southern Lebanon, ya say? One is crazier 'n a sh*thouse rat to bite that bait again. Hizb'Allah does not need to be disarmed. It needs to be destroyed, and everyone of its members needs a dirt nap. The UN never protected anybody, gonna bet yer life on the UN? Hopefully this cease fire crap is a stalling tactic to let the IDF get its job done. Though I worry that Omert and Co. believe this cease fire crap. This is the beginning of total war.
Posted by Alaska Paul">Alaska Paul  2006-08-10 15:05||   2006-08-10 15:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Hopefully this cease fire crap is a stalling tactic Posted by Alaska Paul 2006-08-10 15:05|| Front Page|| ||Comments Top

"Cease fire crap"....aka strategic pause. Takes time to low-boy all those D9 Cats and bring them forward.
Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-10 15:08||   2006-08-10 15:08|| Front Page Top

#11 Thank goodness he has finally identified the enemy. Right after 9/11 every time he would say "war on terror" I would cringe. We are not good at wars that don't have a defined enemy (war on poverty, war on drugs, etc.) Perhaps now we can better focus our efforts. For starters we can stop patting down grandma at the airport. And leave the retarded child in a wheelchair alone. Profile for the enemy please.
Posted by Intrinsicpilot 2006-08-10 15:18||   2006-08-10 15:18|| Front Page Top

#12 Posted this on the dupe thread;

We move into a different phase of the war...
Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-08-10 15:22||   2006-08-10 15:22|| Front Page Top

#13 Why, oh why, are these incremental escalations in identifying Islamism as being Nazi-like in its pursuit of Global Cultural Genocide™ taking so ridiculously long? The current administration has a very limited time in which to establish its case with sufficiently convincing terms whereby the American public will comprehend why it is so important to neutralize Iran and continue exterminating terrorists wherever they are found.

If the executive branch could just bring themselves to abandon such misdirectional twaddle as the supposed issues of gay marriage and flag burning they would retain a lot more credibility and moral capital to be used in the truly vital fight against terrorism.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 15:23||   2006-08-10 15:23|| Front Page Top

#14 Agree, Zen; but that only shows how out of touch with the mainstream we are. Remember, Kerry almost won.

Bush is in as difficult a position as FDR in 1940. To a certain extent that is due to the government's success in preventing another 9/11. Even today's events will go into the memory hole within a week. And the MSM is out to make him the enemy, not the Islamo-fascists. Bush could talk about this every other day, but the MSM would not cover it and if they did, it would be contemptuously.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-08-10 15:37||   2006-08-10 15:37|| Front Page Top

#15 The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini personally recruited the "Handzar [Scimitar] Division" of the Nazi's Waffen SS.

On Mar. 19, 1942, the ex-Mufti of Jerusalem spoke to the Arab world by Rome radio and said: “If, God forbid, America and her allies are victorious in this war . . . then the world will become hell, God forbid. But Allah is too just and merciful to grant such murderous violators any victory.”
Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-10 15:41||   2006-08-10 15:41|| Front Page Top

#16 Thank you for the insights, NS.

To a certain extent that is due to the government's success in preventing another 9/11.

How is it possible for the American public to indulge itself in any sort of complacency when the dire threat of something like a nuclear-armed Iran still looms on the horizon?

I realize that typical American trans-oceanic awareness usually extends about as far as Hawaii, but as I mentioned before, this administration should be shouting to the rafters about Iran, its pursuit of atomic weapons and their intimate ties to Hezbollah, Hamas, al Qaeda and international terrorism. The MSM be d@mned, our government has enough other channels outside of primetime news whereby it can bring these issues in front of the American public.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 15:47||   2006-08-10 15:47|| Front Page Top

#17 And when I say "Hawaii" I really meant "Long Island."
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 15:48||   2006-08-10 15:48|| Front Page Top

#18 How can Bush says that "this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation", and at the same time, put pressure on Israel to delay its offensive, and plan an awful deal at the UN rewarding the Islamic fascists of the Hezbollah ?

All this is incredible.
Posted by leroidavid">leroidavid  2006-08-10 16:00||   2006-08-10 16:00|| Front Page Top

#19 Cat - out of bag...
Posted by M. Murcek">M. Murcek  2006-08-10 16:04||   2006-08-10 16:04|| Front Page Top

#20 How can Bush says that "this nation is at war with Islamic fascists who will use any means to destroy those of us who love freedom, to hurt our nation", and at the same time, put pressure on Israel to delay its offensive, and plan an awful deal at the UN rewarding the Islamic fascists of the Hezbollah ?

SPOT ON, leroidavid. Absolutely spot on!
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 16:16||   2006-08-10 16:16|| Front Page Top

#21 "Naturally the common people don't want war: Neither in Russia, nor in England, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the peacemakers for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country."
~ Hermann Goering, President of the Reichstag, Nazi Party, and Luftwaffe Commander in Chief
This is what the Looney Liberal Left are accusing the Bush administration of doing. The absolutely do not believe we are in a fight for the survival of our way of life. To them it's just a Rovian Plot. Just look at the comments at DU on the break-up of the recent potential airliner bombers in England. The will not face reality, it scares them too much. They'd rather believe in a fantasy.
Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues  2006-08-10 16:26||   2006-08-10 16:26|| Front Page Top

#22 comin' up on FIVE YEARS since 9/11...and we FINALLY get the CinC to call a spade a spade an Islamic Fascist and Islamic Fascist!

oh well...it DOES represent progress!!! *sigh*
Posted by Justrand 2006-08-10 16:31||   2006-08-10 16:31|| Front Page Top

#23 DB.
YES it's creepy how much NAzi stuff DUers find to be of interest.
Posted by j. D. Lux 2006-08-10 16:34||   2006-08-10 16:34|| Front Page Top

#24 Truth, meet rhetoric.
Posted by mcsegeek1 2006-08-10 16:37||   2006-08-10 16:37|| Front Page Top

#25 FINALLY get the CinC to call a spade a spade an Islamic Fascist and Islamic Fascist!
oh well...it DOES represent progress!!! *sigh*
Posted by Justrand

* Note to self: Dust off GWB framed picture in family room tonight.

Posted by Besoeker 2006-08-10 16:41||   2006-08-10 16:41|| Front Page Top

#26 I hope we don't get forced into a civil war as an interlude in world war III.

Bush does need to pound on this everyday and outside the normal MSM channels as well. The entire government and people should be mobilized.

Should be mobilized but we are not.

The Democrat party is complicit with the islamofascists. What you read from DU and KOS is the current leadership position of the Democrat party. According to them there is no conflict or struggle. It's invented out of whole cloth. If we treat them nice they will leave us alone.

What can one do against such ignorance much of it willful?


Bush needs to get his goofy ass together and hammer on this issue every day, over and over with conviction and the government needs to follow suit. The Republican party is failing on this issue, utterly failing by playing the MSM and Democrats games and not their own.

Islamic Fascists are the problem. Wiping them off the face of the earth is the only solution.
Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2006-08-10 16:44|| www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]">[www.sockpuppetofdoom.com]  2006-08-10 16:44|| Front Page Top

#27 Bush needs to get his goofy ass together and hammer on this issue every day, over and over with conviction and the government needs to follow suit. The Republican party is failing on this issue, utterly failing by playing the MSM and Democrats games and not their own.

Islamic Fascists are the problem. Wiping them off the face of the earth is the only solution.

Agreed on all points, SPoD.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 16:54||   2006-08-10 16:54|| Front Page Top

#28 Islamofacism and dealing with it is the number one danger and problem faced by the U.S. The rest of the issues such as flag burning, gay marriage, cut and run, etc. are just sideshows that dilute our efforts in this very dangerous war. We need to match the singularity of purpose of the islamofacists with the same kind of singularity of purpose--that is the destruction of those who are trying to destroy us.
Posted by JohnQC 2006-08-10 16:57||   2006-08-10 16:57|| Front Page Top

#29 from the A/P "reporting" on Bush's statement:

"Many American Muslims, who say they have felt singled out for discrimination since the September 11 attacks, reject the term and say it unfairly links their faith to notions of dictatorship, oppression and racism."

It WAS unfair!! They should have been linked to misogynism too!! And that's just for starters.
Posted by Justrand 2006-08-10 17:10||   2006-08-10 17:10|| Front Page Top

#30 The President used the term "Islamofascist" during his October 6, 2005 speech to the National Endowment for Democracy (according to Wikipedia, and I saw and heard the relevant excerpt).
Posted by mrp 2006-08-10 17:12||   2006-08-10 17:12|| Front Page Top

#31 Here is the excerpt of Bush's speech to the National Endowment for Democracy:

The images and experience of September the 11th are unique for Americans. Yet the evil of that morning has reappeared on other days, in other places -- in Mombasa, and Casablanca, and Riyadh, and Jakarta, and Istanbul, and Madrid, and Beslan, and Taba, and Netanya, and Baghdad, and elsewhere. In the past few months, we've seen a new terror offensive with attacks on London, and Sharm el-Sheikh, and a deadly bombing in Bali once again. All these separate images of destruction and suffering that we see on the news can seem like random and isolated acts of madness; innocent men and women and children have died simply because they boarded the wrong train, or worked in the wrong building, or checked into the wrong hotel. Yet while the killers choose their victims indiscriminately, their attacks serve a clear and focused ideology, a set of beliefs and goals that are evil, but not insane.

Some call this evil Islamic radicalism; others, militant Jihadism; still others, Islamo-fascism. Whatever it's called, this ideology is very different from the religion of Islam. This form of radicalism exploits Islam to serve a violent, political vision: the establishment, by terrorism and subversion and insurgency, of a totalitarian empire that denies all political and religious freedom. These extremists distort the idea of jihad into a call for terrorist murder against Christians and Jews and Hindus -- and also against Muslims from other traditions, who they regard as heretics.

This speech was good in many aspects, but is nevertheless truffled with some PC ideas:

These extremists distort the idea of jihad into a call for terrorist murder against Christians and Jews and Hindus

In fact, the very idea of jihad is the extermination of all non-Muslims.
Posted by leroidavid">leroidavid  2006-08-10 17:33||   2006-08-10 17:33|| Front Page Top

#32 Man Darth Vader is right. The towel heads for Muhamhead at CAIR are going to go nuts over this.

I still can't beleave he said it. Took fricking long enough. But I'm not holding my breath for Bush to come around and say,,, illegals....
Posted by Glaigum Fleash7069 2006-08-10 17:58||   2006-08-10 17:58|| Front Page Top

#33 leroidavid:

Great post. The President detached himself from the pejorative, THEN, but not NOW. Something is brewing.

http://www.opm.gov/guidance/09-14-01gwb.htm

National Cathedral Speech, President Bush, Sept. 14, 2001

...Just three days removed from these events, Americans do not yet have the distance of history, but our responsibility to history is already clear: to answer these attacks and rid the world of evil.

War has been waged against us by stealth and deceit and murder.

This nation is peaceful, but fierce when stirred to anger. This conflict was begun on the timing and terms of others; it will end in a way and at an hour of our choosing.
-----------------------------
I always thought that remark was cryptic. "hour of our choosing." When?
Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-10 18:15||   2006-08-10 18:15|| Front Page Top

#34 Sometime before the 22nd August?
Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-08-10 18:30||   2006-08-10 18:30|| Front Page Top

#35 To hear more such Truth-Speak, remove the mealy-mouthed twats as Daniel Pipes from Bush's informal group of "advisors" on Islam.

Obviously, Bush has seen through and tired of their drivel and is getting it -- in spite of them.

I hope this means the clear-eyed no-bullshit voices, such as Jed Babbin, have finally begun to be heard in the WH.
Posted by flyover 2006-08-10 19:07||   2006-08-10 19:07|| Front Page Top

#36 I'm sort of begining to be somewhat concerned about 8-22-06. And I don't really know why.
Posted by RJB in JC MO 2006-08-10 19:08||   2006-08-10 19:08|| Front Page Top

#37 RJB, I'm just sorta gettin concerned. I sure hope that this is Bush the poker player we are seeing here. I'm not seeing the strength we need to take on Iraq and solve it, I'm seeing the administration put the brakes on the Israelis, I'm seeing us cozy up to the French in a big way and I'm seeing (ok, not surprise here), Mike Wallace get on his knees - he actually may have had to do it lying down - wrapping his lips around Dinner Jacket's wiener. What the hell??!! We almost saw about 4,000 people killed. When are we going to get serious and put a stop to this shit.

OK, I need a cocktail, stat!
Posted by remoteman 2006-08-10 19:29||   2006-08-10 19:29|| Front Page Top

#38 ...and the obligatory...

KCBS' Mike Colgan reported that Muslims say they're worried and offended by President Bush's characterization of those arrested in London's alleged airline terror plot as "Islamic fascists."

"The name of Islam itself is something that is dear to every Muslim because it signifies the peaceful religion itself and whenever someone tries to link the word Islam with something as horrific as the word fascism, it is extremely offensive to all Muslims," Akloush said.

Don't cave on this, GW. No matter how much seething they do, don't cave...
Posted by tu3031 2006-08-10 19:40||   2006-08-10 19:40|| Front Page Top

#39 OK, I need a cocktail, stat!

Finally, a voice of reason! Let's toast some d@mn fine security work that prevented another atrocity.
Posted by Zenster 2006-08-10 19:41||   2006-08-10 19:41|| Front Page Top

#40 remoteman:
You are not seeing everything. If Ahmadinejad is heard threatening the life of the US President on national television, there will be consequences at the "hour of our choosing." And that clock is ticking.
Posted by Snease Shaiting3550 2006-08-10 19:42||   2006-08-10 19:42|| Front Page Top

#41 Gee, other than muslims siding w/the Nazis in WWII and the Ba'athist party, what do they have in common?
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-08-10 21:13||   2006-08-10 21:13|| Front Page Top

#42 The Muzzies can complain all they want.

When was the last time a Buddhist flew an aircraft into a building for his religion?
When was the last time a Hindu hijacked an aircraft for his religion?
When was the last time a Lutheran/Methodist/Baptist/Catholic/Presbyterian slaughtered schoolchildren and their parents to promote their religion?
When was the last time Wiccans exploded a suicide bomb in a crowded market for religious purposes?
When was the last time Shinto worshipers machine-gunned down people from a passing car because it was acceptable to their religion?
When was the last time animists drove a VBIED into a religious gathering because it wasn't THEIR religion?

Only one religion does these things. Only Islam believes killing innocents is acceptable behavior. Islam needs to be treated for what it is - a pathological suicide cult that needs to be restricted to a few sandy wastes. The sooner the better.
Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot  2006-08-10 21:59|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]  2006-08-10 21:59|| Front Page Top

#43 OP - that's profiling
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-08-10 22:06||   2006-08-10 22:06|| Front Page Top

#44 CAIR will be in contact shortly...
Posted by Frank G">Frank G  2006-08-10 22:08||   2006-08-10 22:08|| Front Page Top

#45 #43: "OP - that's profiling"

Damn straight it is - and we need more of it.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut  2006-08-10 22:19|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com]  2006-08-10 22:19|| Front Page Top

#46 The Koran is muslims' Mein Kampf.
Posted by leroidavid">leroidavid  2006-08-10 22:40||   2006-08-10 22:40|| Front Page Top

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