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2004-08-10 China-Japan-Koreas

Nagasaki mayor urges US to scrap `mini-nuke' plans

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Posted by Steve White 2004-08-10 12:00:21 AM|| || Front Page|| [11128 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Whaaa! How about a STFU for Japan when it comes on nuclear weapons.

Posted by FlameBait93268 2004-08-10 00:09|| 2004-08-10 00:09|| Front Page Top

#2 Remove the US nuclear umbrella and defense guarantees from Japan and the Japanese will have a nuclear weapons stockpile within 6 months.

Posted by ed 2004-08-10 00:13|| 2004-08-10 00:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Mini-nukes are really only intended to kill one dude. Hopefully, Kimmy will be using his outhouse when it hits.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-10 01:30|| 2004-08-10 01:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Of course, no mention of why Nagasaki was a target in the first place...

Posted by Tom 2004-08-10 09:48|| 2004-08-10 09:48|| Front Page Top

#5 Of course, no mention of why Nagasaki was a target in the first place...

Posted by Tom 2004-08-10 09:49|| 2004-08-10 09:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Yep. There we were, minding our own business...

Posted by tu3031 2004-08-10 09:56|| 2004-08-10 09:56|| Front Page Top

#7 Factoid:

The Firebombing of Tokyo killed more (100K) then the atomic blast over Nakasaki (70K). (Hiroshima was 140K).

Posted by CrazyFool">CrazyFool 2004-08-10 09:58|| 2004-08-10 09:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Personally I think the mini-nuke idea is a bluff to keep two-bit dictators from spending their cash on super-bomb proof bunkers since by the time the bunker is built it will no longer protect them.

Like the original star wars it does most of its work in the mind of the enemy before it even appears.

Posted by yank">yank 2004-08-10 10:17|| politicaljunky.blogspot.com 2004-08-10 10:17|| Front Page Top

#9 Wasn't firebombing quite an established science by the end of the war? IIRC, the first wave would use conventional 500 pounders to break open buildings and strew debris around. Subsequent waves would then drop incendiaries to ignite that scattered debris.

Posted by Dar">Dar 2004-08-10 10:22|| 2004-08-10 10:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Dar - I think you're channeling Hap Arnold and Curtis LeMay perfectly... :^)

Posted by .com 2004-08-10 10:27|| 2004-08-10 10:27|| Front Page Top

#11 Maybe I am just old school, because I think dead is dead. Whether by nuke, conventional, smart, napalm, rocket, or slingshot you can be just as dead from each weapon. If by chance we find ourselves in a situation where we can kill a large amount of our enemies in one shot, I donât really care which weapon they choose. FYI many more were killed from conventional weapons in WWII, nukes just made the process faster and more efficient.

Posted by Cyber Sarge ">Cyber Sarge 2004-08-10 11:13|| 2004-08-10 11:13|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually, people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki are living longer than people in other parts of Japan

From: Using low-dose radiation for cancer suppression and vitalization

"Question: Most people are startled to learn that the survivors of Hiroshima and Nagasaki who had low exposure to nuclear radiation are living longer than those in the Japanese population who had no radiation exposure. How do you explain this?
"

The effect is known as hormesis, and it's just like your mum used to say "a little bit of everything in moderation"

In addition, Tom has a perfectly valid point, as does CrazyFool.

Posted by Tony (UK) 2004-08-10 13:33|| 2004-08-10 13:33|| Front Page Top

#13 That may be true Tony, but you are forgetting about some of the regrettable side-effects of nuclear blasts. Godzilla left Nagasaki alone.

Posted by yank">yank 2004-08-10 15:05|| http://http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]">[http://http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-08-10 15:05|| Front Page Top

#14 Yank Godzilla is obviously an example of over-exposure to radiation. Less exposure will get you over a hundred RBI's and some modest power.

Posted by Super Hose">Super Hose 2004-08-10 16:03|| http://]">[http://] 2004-08-10 16:03|| Front Page Top

#15 Good point, but how do you get exact doses when using a weapon. You might not get a Godzilla but you might end up with something horrible.

Posted by yank">yank 2004-08-10 17:17|| http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com]">[http://politicaljunky.blogspot.com] 2004-08-10 17:17|| Front Page Top

#16 .com: what about "Bomber" Harris? Let's not forget Dresden...

Posted by mojo">mojo 2004-08-10 18:04|| http://]">[http://] 2004-08-10 18:04|| Front Page Top

#17 mojo - You're right - it was his invention. Interesting info here, though it has that "looking over your shoulder" feeling of regret here and there. Fuck that noise - only survivors have the luxury - it's called war...

Posted by .com 2004-08-10 18:18|| http://]">[http://] 2004-08-10 18:18|| Front Page Top

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