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2016-08-09 Terror Networks

Admiral James A. Lyons: More than incompetence in Benghazi

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Posted by Besoeker 2016-08-09 04:10|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 Don't be silly! Hostages are released as a goodwill gesture, not for $400 million in untraceable cash.

-Senator Tim Kaine

Posted by Bobby 2016-08-09 07:32|| 2016-08-09 07:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Now that is a new theory that I haven't heard before.

So the AQ/ISIS want the blind sheikh back? That's enough reason to keep him in prison and shows why we tried him and found him guilty. But lets wait on that, youknowwho will probably give him a pardon and a plane ticket as a gesture of good will...and hope that ISIS will finally like us.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-08-09 12:08|| 2016-08-09 12:08|| Front Page Top

#3 Read "13 Hours" about a week ago and read nothing that gave any indication of reaction to a video or protests turned violent. The attack on the Diplomatic compound (not even a consulate apparently) showed the DSS reliance on unarmed contract Libyan security on the night of 9/11 anniversary to be very lax attitude given the prior threat environment. 5 DSS agents essentially indoors and only one monitoring in their security building. But, the first attack seemed a mix of an initial entry team of undetermined size and then pickup additions from proximate locals. The CIA compound QRF made up of the contract personnel was delayed repeatedly, and while the initial delay was understandable given it was the bulk of the security force for the CIA site with over 30 personnel, a SCIF and unknown other valued assets. But the subsequent delay was clearly driven by Langley and either chain of command delays/cross agency commo, or concerns about additional threats. IN any event, the delay almost certainly contributed directly to the deaths of Stevens and Smith. The eventual QRF action was finally covered by a ISR drone flown to the site and in orbit, and one wonders what intel about locals that provided. But, later attacks on the CIA compound were far more organized, and for me most telling, the accuracy of the indirect fires, the sounds reported clearly matching not RPG but the unique chunking sound of mortar tube indirect fires and TOT delays. They bracketed the target building in three rounds as I recall, meaning pre-registration by people who knew their weapon system very very well. That part was not amateurish, making me wonder what element of professional military was supporting the irregulars conducting the sloppy wave attacks? Spetznaz element providing C&C and indirect to local factions?

Posted by NoMoreBS 2016-08-09 14:23|| 2016-08-09 14:23|| Front Page Top

#4 They bracketed the target building in three rounds as I recall, meaning pre-registration by people who knew their weapon system very very well. That part was not amateurish, making me wonder what element of professional military was supporting the irregulars conducting the sloppy wave attacks? Spetznaz element providing C&C and indirect to local factions?

I believe it was common knowledge at the time that the Iranian Kuds were in town. It would have been in the Iranian and Russian interest to disrupt or intercept any potential shipment of arms to anti-Assad rebel forces.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-08-09 14:30|| 2016-08-09 14:30|| Front Page Top

#5 Kuds definitely fits and the arms buy strategy that Hilda was using to try and topple Assad mirrors the whole Reagan contra kerfluffle so nicely it makes me laugh.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2016-08-09 17:36|| 2016-08-09 17:36|| Front Page Top

#6 Kuds definitely fits and the arms buy strategy that Hilda was using to try and topple Assad mirrors the whole Reagan contra kerfluffle so nicely it makes me laugh. Posted by NoMoreBS

Yes indeed. I wish I had a 'clicker.' I could switch the channel. We've all seen this movie before, many times in fact.

Posted by Besoeker 2016-08-09 18:49|| 2016-08-09 18:49|| Front Page Top

#7 Spetznaz?

More likely than not although I am not sure if the Russians had a dog in the fight yet.

On the other hand, during the six months I was in Tripoli, Libya, I frequented a coffee shop that often had big lumpy guys with thick necks and spoke Arabic with a decidedly Eastern European accent. Finally one night I tried a trick and said "Dobra Otra" to one of them and he answered in Russian before he caught himself...yeah I made sure I didn't go back there for a while. And when I mentioned it at the Embassy at a party for the new ambassador, the head of security gave me this Captain Obvious look like "so what else is new."

Yep Libya is and has been stiff with Russians, I don't know if it is the oil or the need to keep track of potential US BS from the administration.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2016-08-09 20:41|| 2016-08-09 20:41|| Front Page Top

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