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2013-08-06 Government

Small Businesses Can't Avoid ObamaCare by Switching to Part-Time Workers

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Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-06 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 Obama care was defunded, so it's moot.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-08-06 00:11|| 2013-08-06 00:11|| Front Page Top

#2 Tax slaves.

Posted by newc 2013-08-06 00:15|| 2013-08-06 00:15|| Front Page Top

#3 From Big Government and Big Business:

Suckers

Posted by DarthVader 2013-08-06 00:54|| 2013-08-06 00:54|| Front Page Top

#4 And therein illustrates the problem ...

"Part-Time" = New "Full-Time", "Less-than-PT" = New "Part-time".

The Bammer Admin + aligned love to talk about "reducing unemployment" + "affordable health care", BUT NO ONE IN WASHINGTON WANTS TO MENTION OR ASK HOW IS THE BAMMER ADMIN GOING TO SPECPIFICALLY FOSTER + PROPAGATE SMALL BUSINESS = PRIVATE ENTERPENEURSHIP IN AMERIKA, OR GIVING $$$ BACK TO THE PEOPLE OR MAINSTREAM WHICH CAN BE USED FOR SMALL BUSINESS OR HEALTH CARE???

Posted by JosephMendiola 2013-08-06 00:55|| 2013-08-06 00:55|| Front Page Top

#5 Just split a business across multiple companies.

Posted by phil_b 2013-08-06 01:45|| 2013-08-06 01:45|| Front Page Top

#6 Phil beat me to it.

Since Henry Ford vertical integration has been the thing, at least as far as business schools teach about business. The result has been a trend towards huge businesses which ultimately became complicit in propping up the Blue State model well beyond its utility, even into it becoming deadly to the republic (see Detroit).

Yes, there are times when economy of scale makes sense, but innovation seems to evade a business in proportion to its size.

There will be ways of organizing businesses to avoid this Obamacare thing. In the end, the population that comprises the public sector just isn't as smart or hard working as the one that makes up the private sector.

Posted by no mo uro 2013-08-06 05:25|| 2013-08-06 05:25|| Front Page Top

#7 That won't guys the law has something called a "controlled group" provision. If those multiple corps are controlled in common they are lumped together.

That being said, this article doesn't bring up anything new. You always had to count the hours of full time, part time and over time to determine Full Time Equivalents or FTEs. If that number is over 50 the employer mandate applies, and the fine is paid based on employees that work more than 30 hours a week. So cutting hours to below 30 does avoid the fines.

Posted by Beavis 2013-08-06 06:04|| 2013-08-06 06:04|| Front Page Top

#8 That won't *work guys

Bleh

Posted by Beavis 2013-08-06 06:51|| 2013-08-06 06:51|| Front Page Top

#9 Unless they raise premiums, insurance companies can't affort to cover kiddies up to age 26 either. Includes the jobless, unmarried ones, shacking away from home....having babies, etc. But that was the plan all along, wasn't it ?

Posted by Besoeker 2013-08-06 09:31|| 2013-08-06 09:31|| Front Page Top

#10 If subject to the mandate, what is the employer's responsibility to the part-time workers?

Posted by KBK 2013-08-06 11:29|| 2013-08-06 11:29|| Front Page Top

#11 Beavis nailed it.

Posted by Iblis 2013-08-06 12:04|| 2013-08-06 12:04|| Front Page Top

#12 Companies perform peripheral activities to the point it is just cheaper to do so than to outsource.

Any increase in costs, will result in more outsourcing and hence more companies overall in the economy.

I happen to know that in mining, large companies like Rio, in fact, comprise hundreds of companies.

Any attempt to have one set of rules for large companies and another for small companies, is futile.

Posted by phil_b 2013-08-06 17:54|| 2013-08-06 17:54|| Front Page Top

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