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2004-08-06 Iraq-Jordan

Christian Widow In Jordan Probably Won't Get Her Children Back

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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-08-06 12:26:01 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 The American people can stop this from happening enmasse at the time that they decide to tune in an get pissed off. I think that we are getting closer everyday, but I am impatient.

Posted by Super Hose 2004-08-06 12:39:45 AM|| 2004-08-06 12:39:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Isn't there anyone who can help this woman???? My God, they are going to take her children and force them to be Muslims!

Its times like these that I wish there was someone who could smuggle people in this type of situation out of countries like these.

Yeah, Islam has done more for women's rights than any other religion. All Muslim women live in terror of divorce because they automatically lose their children and they have no rights to them after a divorce of the husband is against it. Is there anything more cruel in all the world to forcibly take a woman's children from her?

You know what we need? We need to be writing someone on her behalf. What about writing King Abdullah and shaming him into intervening. We should write the White House. There has to be some way to put international pressure on Jordan to keep this family together. It worked in the stoning cases in Nigeria, didn't it?

Who else wants to bomb King Abdullah with angry letters???

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 9:36:17 AM|| 2004-08-06 9:36:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Run, Quanah, run now!

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 9:37:21 AM|| 2004-08-06 9:37:21 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 i am so sick of muslims and thier hypocrisy...how in the hell can an uncle have custody when one of the parents is still alive...

super hose - it will take an attack of extreme proportions to jar the american pyche...we have trully lost the edge our grandparents had....we are more concerned with how we are viewed than with actually protecting our nation...one big thank you to clinton...

Posted by Dan 2004-08-06 10:28:35 AM|| 2004-08-06 10:28:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 how in the hell can an uncle have custody when one of the parents is still alive...

As far as they're concerned, she's NOT alive.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2004-08-06 10:40:45 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com] 2004-08-06 10:40:45 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 This should be a warning to all. If you ever find yourself a minority or a woman in a conflict with islamic law, you just need to run right then and there since the outcome is a foregone conclusion and there is no room for mercy or the consideration of the human rights of anyone but muslim males whenever their interests are involved. Don't wait for justice to prevail because it won't. The odds are stacked high against you. Take yourselves and your loved ones and run as far and fast as you can. Flee the country. Throw yourself at the mercy of some foreign embassy. In this kind of case that is the only hope.

I really do hope that this woman doesn't wait for the verdict. She needs to go to the US or British embassy right now with her kids and claim asylum immediately. I pray to God that she does.

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 11:28:40 AM|| 2004-08-06 11:28:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Important detail: Once the children have been declared "Moslem", when they turn 18 and renounce Islam, I bet you that they are called "apostates", which is probably illegal in Jordan.

Posted by Anonymoose 2004-08-06 11:36:58 AM|| 2004-08-06 11:36:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 Yes, I am all fired up by this, dammit!

King Abdullah's Website

Here's the link to the feedback section of King Abdullah's website. I'm not sure he will get to see it but maybe there is a chance that he might and he might be persuaded to intervene to save his precious reputation as a progressive.

Please send only respectful requests or else the whole effort might be completely sabatoged. He doesn't have to listen to anyone much less a bunch of rude and abusive Americans.

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 11:37:46 AM|| 2004-08-06 11:37:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 peggy - Ahem, since you are a woman, and a woman's testimony is only worth 1/4 of a man's under Shari'a, I only read every fourth word of your post. I hate to tell you this, but it made almost no sense...
"This warning you a woman with just right since a there for consideration rights muslim interests wait prevail the high yourselves ones far you country the foreign kind is I that wait she to British with claim I that..."

Now is that any way to talk? Sheesh!
->

Lol! Sorry, couldn't help myself. You're dead right: get out before they know your intentions. Run. Like. Hell. Itself. Is. After. You... because it is. Good posts, heh!

Posted by .com 2004-08-06 11:47:33 AM|| 2004-08-06 11:47:33 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 .com, if I repeat Peggy's post word for word will you be able to understand half of it? Hmmm?

Posted by Seafarious 2004-08-06 12:12:56 PM|| 2004-08-06 12:12:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Sea - WTF? Hmmm?

Posted by .com 2004-08-06 12:28:21 PM|| 2004-08-06 12:28:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Sea - Are you making fun of me again? I'll tell Mom!

Posted by .com 2004-08-06 1:13:44 PM|| 2004-08-06 1:13:44 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 dot... I'd never mock you. Make faces behind your back, sure, but never mock. ;-)

Posted by Seafarious 2004-08-06 1:31:17 PM|| 2004-08-06 1:31:17 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 OK, what possible reason could a Christian have for "secretly" converting to Islam in a country like Jordan? I mean, it would have been in his social, political, and financial best interest to trumpet such a thing as much as he could.

Why did the mother agree to a guardianship in the first place? Gun to her head? Financial benefit to the children as "Muslim" heirs to daddy's estate?

Posted by Mitch H. 2004-08-06 1:33:28 PM|| [http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/] 2004-08-06 1:33:28 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 Lol! I was only magnifying peggy's point about get out now - once they know your intentions, you're screwed if you're a femalian under Shari'a.

Can I turn around now? I'm facing Mecca... ;->

Posted by .com 2004-08-06 1:33:50 PM|| 2004-08-06 1:33:50 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 A gun to her head, figuratively if not physically? I think so. A Christian woman vs any Muslim blood relative in Islamoland? She is screwed. Short of slitting her own throat, there is little she can do except perhaps try to maintain ties with the rest of her Christian relatives in the hopes they can do seomthing about it-making a big international scandal of it is probably her best bet.

The article cites the rest of the Christian family-isn't one of the relatives in the family male? She needs to get the male family members to chase some justice for her, until the medieval realm of Jordan decides to leave Neandrathal Islam behind and join the rest of the civilized world.

This is one more example of how dangerous it would be to allow sharia law even one step inside American justice.

Posted by jules 187 2004-08-06 2:37:34 PM|| 2004-08-06 2:37:34 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 Mitch H,

Yeah it was a gun to her head. As far as I can figure out, her husband dies. Sometime after that brother dearest the Islamofacist, produces a certificate of conversion which her husband supposedly signed before he died. Yet he converted secretly and conveniently didn't tell any of his Christian family. This made the children raised as Christians automatically Muslims which meant that the Christian mother was not legally allowed to handle their affairs anymore. Out of desparation, she fell into the brothers trap and assigned him gaurdianship so that the kids could get the pension they had coming to them from dad. Uncle steals most of it and when mother complains he files for full custody so that he can rescue the poor Muslim children, I mean raise the children as the Muslims that they are now like it or not.

It turns my stomach to think of the brainwashing thses kids are facing. The uncle will get them all alone and he won't stop showing them proof of how corrupt the Bible is and how perfect the koran is without any dissenting voices to get in his way. By the time the children come of age they will be properly brainwashed. The girl will have married a Muslim while still a minor and will have no rights anymore to determine her life. A Christian girls children will be rasied Muslims. Ethinic cleansing in miniature.

But oh how the Muslims would seeth and boil and fume if a Muslim child adopted by a Christian family wasn't raised as a Muslim. I could just puke.

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 5:46:21 PM|| 2004-08-06 5:46:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Jules,

I think that this woman defintely has a case on the grounds of human rights. It is a case of ethnic cleansing in minature. She is having her children stolen from under her nose in retaliation for complaining about her brother, the theif of their child support. And the government of Jordan has done nothing.

Yes her relatives could make a stink but they will all suffer for it. We in the free world need to use our freedom to make a stink about it. Write Abdullah, call him on the mat to show if he's really the progressive that he claims to be. Write, write anyone that might make a stink on her behalf. This needs to become a big deal if this lady is going to get to keep her kids.

Posted by peggy 2004-08-06 5:53:22 PM|| 2004-08-06 5:53:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#19
Re: #17 a certificate of conversion which her husband supposedly signed before he died

It's worse than that. The certicate was not signed by the husband before he died.
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Posted by Mike Sylwester 2004-08-07 1:10:34 AM|| 2004-08-07 1:10:34 AM|| Front Page Top

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