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2010-08-03 Science & Technology

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Posted by Bobby 2010-08-03 06:52|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 let it go people....

Posted by armyguy 2010-08-03 07:31|| 2010-08-03 07:31|| Front Page Top

#2 I'm sure the sixth-graders lap this up like warm milk.

Their teachers do as well.

Posted by NCMike 2010-08-03 08:30|| 2010-08-03 08:30|| Front Page Top

#3 I have said it before and I'll say it again. Yes, there is global warming going on. The ice sheets have been retreating for thousands of years (Long Island was a glacial end moraine.) I would be very surprised if a PART of it was not caused by fossil fuel combustion. The question is, how much? 1%? 10%? Not 100%.
Next point: Crap and trade will do nothing to reduce global warming. It is merely camoflage for the hidden real purpose of the legislation - global income redistribution. In fact, by transferring combustion from the more efficient and modern world to the less developed world the CO2 production per unit of economic activity will go UP.

Posted by Glenmore 2010-08-03 08:37|| 2010-08-03 08:37|| Front Page Top

#4 For instance, surface air temperatures recorded from more than 7,000 weather stations around the world over the past few decades confirm an "unmistakable upward trend," the study says.

Well Doh.... when you start placing the '~~asphalt and AC~~ weather stations' in the middle of asphalt parking lots and next to AC exhaust... the measurements tend to go up. They also tend to become completely irrelevant.

But then accuracy really isn't the goal is it?

Posted by CrazyFool 2010-08-03 08:41|| 2010-08-03 08:41|| Front Page Top

#5 The question is, how much? 1%? 10%? Not 100%.
Another key question is, what can we do that will stop global warming by the end of the lifetime of our grandchildren? There is ZERO evidence concerning this. If the human race and its current economic activity were to vanish overnight, climate trends would continue for decades or centuries regardless.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2010-08-03 09:20|| 2010-08-03 09:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Any satellites recording lower atmosphere warming?

All were seeing is an unmistakable divergence of figures.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2010-08-03 09:22|| 2010-08-03 09:22|| Front Page Top

#7 Two critical things to remember about the whole MMGW thing.

1) Carbon Dioxide in Earth's atmosphere amounts to 390 ppmv (parts per million by volume) (or 0.0390% of the total). Of that, the human contribution is 12 ppmv (~3%). Three percent of a trace gas. Even the serious MMGW scientists say that the human contribution alone cannot do squat, *unless* is somehow makes the *natural* CO2 producers crank out vastly more CO2, in a self-reinforcing cycle.

And no such cycle, out of a dozen or so proposed cycles, has been proven, and several have been disproven.

2) The Earth's thermosphere, which is the "greenhouse blanket" around the Earth, mitigating temperatures, has radically contracted in the last two years, almost certainly caused by the lack of solar activity. With this contraction, *vastly* more powerful than *anything* humans could do, we are getting just the *opposite* of a greenhouse effect.

A greenhouse effect results in stable temperatures that are a little warmer than the air outside the greenhouse. The opposite of this is lower than normal lows *and* higher than normal highs, at the same time. Remember last winter?

http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/07/16/nasa.upper.atmosphere.shrinking/index.html

The headline begins with "Scientists baffled..." This is climate science in a nutshell. For anyone to declare that MMGW exists is utter hooey.

And it has nothing to do with whether the Earth is getting warmer or cooler right now, which is entirely natural.

Posted by Anonymoose 2010-08-03 09:58|| 2010-08-03 09:58|| Front Page Top

#8 Denial *is* possible. Even fun!

Posted by Iblis 2010-08-03 11:16|| 2010-08-03 11:16|| Front Page Top

#9 Article: "Three hundred scientists analyzed data on 37 climate indicators, but homed in on 10 that the study says are especially revealing."

Translation: We kept only the indicator's that support our position. The 300 scientists made this conclusion while attending a ~~junket~~ conference in Tahiti.

Article: "Such climatic shifts are already ushering in extreme weather, which plagued much of the globe in 2009, according to the report."

Translation: Extreme weather is a new phenomenon that did not exist prior to 2009.

Article: "An in-depth analysis of ten climate indicators all point to a marked warming over the past three decades,..."

Translation: Just ignore the two decades of cooling prior to the 3 decades of warming. Our thermometer thingies weren't properly calibrated then.

Article: "Reliable global climate record-keeping began in the 1880s."*

*Fine Print: "Reliable global climate record-keeping began in the 1880s, except for long periods of war, civil, social and economic disruption. Global in the sense that it covered much of North America. May not include large parts Europe, Central and South America, Central and East Asia, all of Africa, much of the Pacific, Indian, Arctic, and Atlantic Oceans and Antarctica. Reliable in the sense that the measurements have all been properly ~~fudged~~ adjusted to take into account the Urban Heat Island Effect, proximity to asphalt parking lots and the hot air discharge of nearby air conditioners.

Posted by Eboreg 2010-08-03 13:34|| 2010-08-03 13:34|| Front Page Top

#10 "You keep using that word..."

Posted by mojo 2010-08-03 17:02|| 2010-08-03 17:02|| Front Page Top

#11 Yeah, well, you know...don't kill the job.

Posted by tu3031 2010-08-03 17:06|| 2010-08-03 17:06|| Front Page Top

#12 Have they ever tried to correlate the data to the output energy from the sun? From my understanding, the sun has been getting hotter of time.

Posted by miscellaneous 2010-08-03 17:24|| 2010-08-03 17:24|| Front Page Top

#13 The same National Geographic that said we had hit peak oil, this time for really really real in 2004.

Then there's this little inconvenient truth for them.

Posted by Procopius2k 2010-08-03 19:27|| 2010-08-03 19:27|| Front Page Top

#14 Global warming IS undeniable. Ten thousand years ago the place where I live was covered by two miles of ice. Then those damn SUV driving saber tooth tigers caused the environment to heat up.

Posted by DMFD 2010-08-03 20:15|| 2010-08-03 20:15|| Front Page Top

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