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2013-07-12 Britain

Murdered soldier's family: His death has united Britain

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Posted by ryuge 2013-07-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [2 views ] Top

#1 Where are the burned mosques then?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-12 02:47|| 2013-07-12 02:47|| Front Page Top

#2 Burning mosques will not bring him back,there is no point in parachuting down to the level of Sgt Rigby's attackers,Cameron needs to think like an ordinary Englishman, not a damn tory, and start shipping out those jihadists.

Posted by pikestaff 2013-07-12 05:11|| 2013-07-12 05:11|| Front Page Top

#3 although you do hear people say "oh dear, how sad, oh look a pigeon" when they hear a mosque burnt down (probably from surprise that there were no secondary explosions).

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-07-12 07:30|| 2013-07-12 07:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Cameron needs to think like an ordinary Englishman, not a damn tory, and start shipping out those jihadists.

Don't. On second thought, do hold your breath, pikestaff.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2013-07-12 08:33|| 2013-07-12 08:33|| Front Page Top

#5 If you don't "Go to their Level" They win.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2013-07-12 08:36|| 2013-07-12 08:36|| Front Page Top

#6 No! you reciprocate their dedication, but with more ability and sense.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-07-12 09:08|| 2013-07-12 09:08|| Front Page Top

#7 ..like reciprocate the Luftwaffe bombing of London with the bombing of Berlin. I notice that after the pay back with interest, the Germans seem to be among the lesser militaristic people in Europe these days compared to the prior two hundred years of experience.

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-07-12 09:48|| 2013-07-12 09:48|| Front Page Top

#8 Muslims need to experience real terror. They bomb something, one of their countries should cease to exist. They'll run out before we do.

Posted by Silentbrick - Schlumberger Squishy Mud Division 2013-07-12 09:59|| 2013-07-12 09:59|| Front Page Top

#9 Area bombing in ww2 was mostly a waste of resources.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2013-07-12 10:56|| 2013-07-12 10:56|| Front Page Top

#10 It's all about doing it right BP. Think Dresden, Tokyo, Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It just took a little practice.

Posted by Shipman 2013-07-12 11:21|| 2013-07-12 11:21|| Front Page Top

#11 Area bombing was a success in diverting German industrial capacity from armour to anti-aircraft.

What is ultimately effective is boots, or tracks, on the ground. Shermanize them.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2013-07-12 12:14|| 2013-07-12 12:14|| Front Page Top

#12 Actually, BP, the analysis of the effect in Japan was different. Area bombing saw a drop in production concurrent with a major shift in population from urban centers. Japanese war production, much like post-war production involved farming out sub-assemblies and parts fabrication to little shops, which disappeared under LaMay's fire bombing. See, Coxx, Alvin D.; Japan at the End of Her Tether, History of the Second World War [Part 91], BPC Publishing Ltd, 1966, London. Pg 2537

In Kobe city, for example, workers dropped their tools as soon as an air raid alert sounded, so they would have enough time to flee to the hillsides immediately behind the metropolis before the bombers could arrive. Consequently the mere sounding of the alert signal in the Kobe region caused an immediate drop in industrial production. According to information reaching the War Ministry about May 1945, the attendance rate at munitions factories, throughout the country immediately after an air raid dwindled to 20-30%. The average rate of absenteeism at factories in devastated areas approximated 40%. In unraided zones the absentee rate averaged 15%, but even in unbombed Kyoto lost man hours totaled 40% by July 1945.

An indirect result of the raids was the dispersal of the labour force because of housing problems, thereby affecting both control and efficiency.

According to Home Ministry data, the following Japanese civilian losses were the minimum incurred as the result of all air raids on the Homeland: 241,309 killed, 313,041 injured, 8,045,094 homeless, 2,333,388 buildings destroyed, 110,928 partial destroyed. The number of houses razed represented at least 30% of the national total. It should also be noted that the Japanese themselves demolished 615,000 buildings as firebreaks, 214,000 of which were located in Tokyo. In all about 13,000,000 people were driven from their homes by the destruction of dwellings; a substantial additional number were rendered homeless by the bombing of factory dormitories.

Large-scale evacuation of Japanese civilians from urban areas began in 1944. Between January and September of that year, 1,000,000 moved out of Tokyo. The capital's population fell from 5,000,000 in January of 1945 to 2,453,000 in June. About 55% of the Nagoya area inhabitants were evacuated; 60% of the Osaka-Kobe complex. Probably 8,295,000 persons of all categories were evacuated throughout Japan. Dispersal of the urban school population, began slowly in mid-1944, was intensified after the raids of March 1945. By April, over 87% of urban school children had been moved

Posted by Procopius2k 2013-07-12 17:23|| 2013-07-12 17:23|| Front Page Top

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