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2004-07-29 Home Front: Politix
Kerry losing ground to president on key issues, survey finds
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Posted by rex 2004-07-29 01:42|| || Front Page|| [11123 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 This WashPost/ABC poll is really strange. The issue related positives for Bush are out of sink with the 49-48 preference.

One of the big problems with polls these days is getting a sample, especially because a growing number of people don't pick up their land line and mostly use cell phones.
Posted by mhw 2004-07-29 10:54:18 AM||   2004-07-29 10:54:18 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 I don't like poll this far out and I know the Post like to lean a bit right. However, I have been watching CSPAN and I can't help but see an implosion of the party happening before our eyes. How can any rational American listen to Sharton or Dean and swallow the sad story of America? Additionally, I haven't heard ONE reason to vote for Kerry. I heard about cloning, race baiting, medical coverage, the 2000 election, One-America (Obama), and Two-Americas (Edwards) but i haven't heard how Kerry plans for "Making America Great Again." Ahem, America is GREAT right now!
Posted by Cyber Sarge (VRWC CA Chapter)  2004-07-29 11:18:59 AM||   2004-07-29 11:18:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sarge,

Right on the money. I've been give about 4,000 reasons I should vote AGAINST Bush, but not one about why I should vote FOR Kerry.
Posted by dreadnought 2004-07-29 11:28:07 AM||   2004-07-29 11:28:07 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 I'm with you mhw, it's not's just the land line issue...... it's that who picks up a land line? I don't think telephones polling is random anymore, it's getting a skewed population. Skewed how I don't have a clue. But I wish someone one point me to some info on this.

The larger question is how can a valid random sample be found now without a huge sample of the population?

Posted by Shipman 2004-07-29 12:22:20 PM||   2004-07-29 12:22:20 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 I'm with you mhw, it's not's just the land line issue...... it's that who picks up a land line? I don't think telephones polling is random anymore, it's getting a skewed population. Skewed how I don't have a clue. But I wish someone one point me to some info on this.

The larger question is how can a valid random sample be found now without a huge sample of the population?

Posted by Shipman 2004-07-29 12:24:43 PM||   2004-07-29 12:24:43 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 I feel strongly about this. :)
Posted by Shipman 2004-07-29 12:26:04 PM||   2004-07-29 12:26:04 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 I know the Post like to lean a bit right.

Cyber Sarge, you ARE talking about the NY Post, right? Or did you forget the sarcasm tag?
Posted by Raj  2004-07-29 1:18:49 PM||   2004-07-29 1:18:49 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 Shipman,

and frankly many of the more expensive polling companies are about as honest and transparent with their methodolgy as the Paleo Authority Finance Board

fortunately for the expensive polling companies, the suits at ABC and the washington post probably know next to nothing about statistics
Posted by mhw 2004-07-29 1:27:07 PM||   2004-07-29 1:27:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 Does anyone in here base their opinions on what the polls say???

I’m guessing that rantburg doesn’t attract the type of people who look to the fashion pages before they decide what to wear in the morning.

Some of us don’t need others to tell us how we think.
Posted by B 2004-07-29 1:44:40 PM||   2004-07-29 1:44:40 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 Does anyone in here base their opinions on what the polls say???...Some of us don’t need others to tell us how we think.

RantBurger's don't need polls to help them vote, but unfortunately there is that 10% undecided voting bloc "out there" who will decide who sits in the Oval Office come November. It's these undecided poorly informed folks who may use polls, like the sheeple they are, to cast their votes. So it's nice to see that Kerry has not been gaining on GWB, especially because of the convention publicity, as he has been doing, albeit not by much,in the past couple of months.
Posted by rex 2004-07-29 1:52:23 PM||   2004-07-29 1:52:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#11 Rex…well said!
Posted by B 2004-07-29 2:00:16 PM||   2004-07-29 2:00:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 Cyber Sarge,the Wash.Post is a bit to right of NYTimes I'll agree,but it does not lean right.Cynical speculation on poll is that it is designed to show how well Demo Convention worked in creating "bounce" for Kerry.

What has been unique about this election is how close the candidates have been throughout-neither party able to get a double-digit lead.My theory is the elecorate is split into 4 quarters.Each side has 1/4 of voters,who will vote for their candidate no matter what.Each side has 1/4 of voters,who kinda,sorta like their candidate,or kinda,sorta don't want to vote for other guy.The winner will be the candidate who gets his more of his kinda,sorta voters to actually go vote.Or,another way of putting it,the loser will be the candidate who can't get his kinda,sorta voters bothered enough to vote.
Posted by Stephen 2004-07-29 3:07:27 PM||   2004-07-29 3:07:27 PM|| Front Page Top

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