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2010-07-20 Israel-Palestine-Jordan
Iron Dome passes final tests, ready for duty by November
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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2010-07-20 03:04|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 Yeee... I've been kind of expecting a shooting war this summer. The information that Iron Dome won't be online until November isn't exactly reassuring, for the same reason that people are concerned about American billionaires dying before the end of 2010 - because their respective deadlines are perverse incentives.

Hezb now has an incentive to spend their reserves of rockets before they forcibly depreciate.
Posted by Mitch H.  2010-07-20 08:52|| http://blogfonte.blogspot.com/  2010-07-20 08:52|| Front Page Top

#2 

This Death Star is fully operational!
Posted by Albert Ebbager8936 2010-07-20 09:43||   2010-07-20 09:43|| Front Page Top

#3 It is an exaggerated claim. Iron dome needs 15 seconds to fire. A Kassam can hit an Israeli city within 14 seconds. Also it is an economic disaster as each Iron Dome missile costs about $100,000.

A better solution would be the laser defense proposed by some US companies two years ago.
Posted by BernardZ 2010-07-20 11:19||   2010-07-20 11:19|| Front Page Top

#4 The concept of Iron Dome needs to be strongly augmented with fairly inexpensive and very effective C-RAM systems.

The Germans make a good 35mm C-RAM system which they will be fielding soon, and even a good old fashioned radar controlled Bofors-L70s would help the cause.

But in the final analysis, what Israel really needs are a whole bunch of 8-inch howitzers. For some stupid reason, they only currently have 155mm.

Ideally, have a couple of low tech 16-inch naval guns secret and underground near the border as well. With a max range of 23.5 miles, they will totally devastate any Hezbollah or Syrian positions within a large area, including any tunnels and underground bunkers.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-07-20 11:22||   2010-07-20 11:22|| Front Page Top

#5 What the Israelis really need is a few arclight runs over southern Lebanon. Too bad our illustrious president has more sympathy for the Hezzies than Israel.
Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2010-07-20 11:49||   2010-07-20 11:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Arclight runs? They can put Q-ships off the coast as well, and maybe even drop used F-150's on the positions.
Posted by No I am The Other Beldar 2010-07-20 13:47||   2010-07-20 13:47|| Front Page Top

#7 Errr...does anyone actually know that Iron Dome detects where a rocket will fall? If it will not impact a city, no interceptor is fired.

That's the whole point of this system, what makes it unique. But that's about the 11,000th time today I've seen criticism of the cost-effectiveness.
Posted by gromky 2010-07-20 13:53||   2010-07-20 13:53|| Front Page Top

#8 gromky: But what is proposed as a feature, that it, minimizing harm downrange, is actually a bug. If a 35mm C-RAM misses its target, optimally you would get a high explosive ballistic lead rain about 4km downrange.

As in "we accidentally forgot to set their airburst fusing, and wiped out a Hezbollah ground unit by accident. Oops."

Oh, yeah, and those missiles are expensive.
Posted by  Anonymoose 2010-07-20 14:09||   2010-07-20 14:09|| Front Page Top

#9 "A better solution would be the laser defense proposed by some US companies two years ago. "

Or, 100 missiles back for every 1 in.
Posted by crosspatch 2010-07-20 15:13||   2010-07-20 15:13|| Front Page Top

#10 I could solve this with three words: GLASS PARKING LOT
Posted by Mizzou Mafia 2010-07-20 15:53||   2010-07-20 15:53|| Front Page Top

#11 Too much collateral damage. Let's compromise: Arclight strike using MOABs.
Posted by gorb 2010-07-20 15:55||   2010-07-20 15:55|| Front Page Top

#12 There are only 3 MOABs left. So Ima call no go on that potentially sweet theory.

However, evidently we aren't going to nuke the GOM well, (FU sharks! Next time) which will leave a B-63 available for use aginst other ummmm...wells.

This is going to require, wet-work, Q-ships, the New Jersey, every Buff left that can fly, some that can't, The Very Special Relationship should be involked to bring the Victory into the fleet. Then Random sweeps and BOOMING! followed by a redeclaration of all that is good.
Followed by an assault on GUAM, JOE! will stand by the guns (electronically or in spirit) and ensure we hold the Mariannas. Key to victory in any realistic war.

Also. France, we should buy it.
Posted by Shipman 2010-07-20 18:06||   2010-07-20 18:06|| Front Page Top

#13 ZOMG! Kill that, kill that. Zomg! Kill that! I called for Q-ships, uncalled for.

Keeeeel the post.

Bai.
Posted by Shipman 2010-07-20 18:09||   2010-07-20 18:09|| Front Page Top

#14 Don't worry if Hamas of Hezbollah fire any more rockets you can count on Obama to quickly and decisively respond (with a stern letter telling Netanyahu not to 'over-react').
Posted by DMFD 2010-07-20 20:42||   2010-07-20 20:42|| Front Page Top

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