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2006-07-13 Home Front: WoT

Bush Needs to Better Explain Complex Terror War

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Posted by ryuge 2006-07-13 07:24|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Instead, the president and his staff should be blunt and explain that, since Sept. 11, it has had to choose between options that are bad or far worse. Yeah, like world domination by the islamofascists. And wearing burkas. And forced slavery by the a*shats.

Posted by JohnQC 2006-07-13 09:26|| 2006-07-13 09:26|| Front Page Top

#2 Some good points, but: silence speaks. Something huge and decisive is brewing. The White House has said nothing about Ahmadinejad's archipelago of genocide-against-Israel rallies in Iran, and they are taking a business-like approach to the Hamas-Hizbollah war against the Roadmap to Middle East Peace. Nothing will happen until the G8 process ends. I believe that some surprising US allies will be disclosed, and that Iran's borders will be shrunk before September.

No Dem with an ounce of integrity would suggest continuing the peace process after what has happened in the last week. Israel is talking total war, and the US will join the chorus. The Euros will come on line.

Posted by Anginens Threreng8133 2006-07-13 10:49|| 2006-07-13 10:49|| Front Page Top

#3 Anginens Threreng8133

I hope you're correct. Either way, you've put forth an intertesting analysis.

In today's WaPo, Robert Kagan speculates that Bush is practically bending over backwards on the diplomatic front so as to silence critics if and when diplo-options run out and US chooses to reduce part of Iran into an irradiated ash-heap.

Posted by Lancasters Over Dresden 2006-07-13 11:24|| http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp]">[http://www.michaelcalderonscall.com/HomePage.asp] 2006-07-13 11:24|| Front Page Top

#4 Bush has also shown he will follow words with actions. When we do go kinetic, it won't be a surprise.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-07-13 11:39|| 2006-07-13 11:39|| Front Page Top

#5 This article reminds me of a boss I once had. He made a bad decision that I had argued against at the time it was made. Later, when the ramifications became apparent, he said it was my fault because I couldn't talk him out of it.

Bush has been straightforward in his message. It takes two to communicate, a sender and a receiver. If the receiver is turned off or otherwise screwed up, it is not the sender's fault.

There are a great mass of people who don't believe we need a War on Terror. There are people who believe, and scream, that Bush is worse than the terrorists. Nobody's mind will be changed by more sophisticated arguments; only by events. The only question is how many WTC's, Madrids, Londons and Mumbai's its going to take.

Posted by DoDo 2006-07-13 12:21|| 2006-07-13 12:21|| Front Page Top

#6 There is a great mass of people outside the Islamic world who don't believe there is such a thing as Islamic fascism, and a big chunk of that mass would prefer Western civilization to go out of existence altogether. Hanson presupposes that this mass doesn't constitute the bulk of the opposition to Bush's war. Better explanations by the Bush administration would have no effect whatsoever on the "opposition", really a fifth column.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2006-07-13 14:04|| 2006-07-13 14:04|| Front Page Top

#7 "and that Iran's borders will be shrunk before September" Anginens Threreng8133

What does this mean exactly? Dismembering Iran into ethnic groups? Invading and taking chunks of land? Removing Iranian clients and thus shrinking their "virtual border"? It's an odd phrase and I'm not sure I get it.

Posted by rjschwarz 2006-07-13 14:39|| 2006-07-13 14:39|| Front Page Top

#8 Perhaps AT8133 is alluding to something like this by Ralph Peters, Blood Borders: How a better Middle East would look - it's a great article.

Ok, I'm getting the Roadside America brushoff again, the img is here, do check it out...the Soddies really take it in the shortz ;)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-07-13 15:23|| 2006-07-13 15:23|| Front Page Top

#9 Damn, Tony! That's a great article - was it ever posted here?

Thanks!

Posted by flyover 2006-07-13 17:31|| 2006-07-13 17:31|| Front Page Top

#10 Don't think it's been commented on here flyover, and I can't remember how I found it, but it's some article isn't it! :)

Posted by Tony (UK) 2006-07-13 17:48|| 2006-07-13 17:48|| Front Page Top

#11 rjschwartz:
Are you not aware that the government of Iran holds only provisional respect for any borders, anywhere? The Islamists believe that sovereignty belongs to Allah, and man-made laws must conform to Sharia. They don't respect our borders, therefore we shouldn't respect theirs. As for the oil fields in what is currently Iran: local savages had little or nothing to do with creation of that industry. One option Bush has is to demand something like $20 billion compensation for the 1979 hostage taking of US diplomats. And, react to Iranian refusal.

I don't know exactly what is the Bush administration game plan, but I read something into the fact that the IAF work against the Beirut airport, will prevent quick resupply of Iranian missiles, and that is not something that would have been done without US knowledge. In the cases of the US invasions of Grenada and Panama, President Reagan waited until the days of intervention, before giving reasons for the attacks. Why would President Bush throw his cards on the table before tossing out the Ayatollahs. I would advise that the justification be partly on the fact that the Ayatollahs have each created conditions where they have amassed hundreds of millions of dollars (Rafsanjani has $1.4 billion), by manipulating the economy. Besides the fact that there are minorities who are oppressed by the Islamofascist government, many Iranians are ashamed of the emulation of Arabs by the kleptocrats. Ahmadinejad may have some popularity based on his confidence, but when he begins to look like a pathological loser, that will collapse.

Posted by Anginens Threreng8133 2006-07-13 18:54|| 2006-07-13 18:54|| Front Page Top

#12 Anginens Threreng8133, how hard is it to copy paste my name and spell it correctly? Why add the T? Did you think I forgot how to spell my own name?

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