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2008-07-11 Caribbean-Latin America

Argies' military threat raises fears over Falklands

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Posted by Alaska Paul 2008-07-11 12:46|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 "It is more complex, and it is necessary to defend our natural resources, our Antarctica, our water."

Sounds like "precious bodily fluids" talk to me.

Posted by xbalanke 2008-07-11 14:28|| 2008-07-11 14:28|| Front Page Top

#2 The Argies are in about no better place economically than they were under the Junta. Same situation. Same game. Much different 'will' in London. It will only buy time but won't stop the problems. Interesting if London invokes the NATO charter and asks the US for assistance. The precedent has been established.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-07-11 15:20|| 2008-07-11 15:20|| Front Page Top

#3 The precedent for what? The Falklands are not part of NATO. And the US is certainly not about to participate in the defence of the British Empire. If the Falklanders had any sense, they'd declare independence and ask for recognition from the US and a mutual defence treaty. Or else brush up on Spanish.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-07-11 16:47|| 2008-07-11 16:47|| Front Page Top

#4 NS, Afghanistan is not part of NATO either. The contrivance used was as the assembly area from which an attack upon one of the NATO members [the US]. Britain is still a member of NATO. An attack upon it, just like an attack by Hugo on Dutch islands in the Caribbean would be an attack upon all members. Since we sought out and received assistance under NATO for Afghanistan, it follows that a fellow member can do the same of us.

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-07-11 17:48|| 2008-07-11 17:48|| Front Page Top

#5 The Falklands are not part of the UK. They are a colony. The United States will not go to war to preserve the British or any other empire.

All our assistance to the Brits in Falklands I was very hush-hush at the time and I suspect much is still not known. We would help quietly again, but not overtly.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-07-11 18:07|| 2008-07-11 18:07|| Front Page Top

#6 The United States will not go to war to preserve the British or any other empire.

Sorta missed that nuance during WWII didn't we. I guess Guam is a colony by any other name too right?

Posted by Procopius2k 2008-07-11 19:35|| 2008-07-11 19:35|| Front Page Top

#7 Not at all P2K. We were attacked by the Japanese and the Germans declared war on us. We went to the defence of England. None of our war objectives were to restore colonial territories and in addition to bankrupting the British Empire we did little to restore it or any of the others.

What's our empire got to do with theirs?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-07-11 20:15|| 2008-07-11 20:15|| Front Page Top

#8 Sent to the islands to secure what is ours
Marching ashore in the cover of night
Hide until dawn and attack in the twilight
Shake them awake with the thunder of guns

Orders from the iron maiden, (get the islands back)
Failure will not be accepted, call for artillery strike, launch attack

We are (back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

Push them back further and out from the islands
Into our fleet that will stop their retreat
Mark their positions and call in the airforce
Harriers and vulcans strikes at our command

Orders from the iron maiden, (get the islands back)
Failure will not be accepted, call for artillery strike, launch attack

We are (back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

Back in control, force them to surrender
Take what is ours, restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands)

(back in control), force them to surrender
(take what is ours), restore law and order
(back in control), push them further out to sea
(Falklands in our hands), back under British reign

- Sabaton, "Back In Control"

Posted by Secret Master 2008-07-11 21:06|| 2008-07-11 21:06|| Front Page Top

#9 IIRC, Falklanders are also British citizens, just as much so as the inhabitants of the Orkneys (north AND south) and other British overseas territories (Ascension, several Caribbean and Pacific islands, Diego Garcia, etc.). The Argentinians are using the Falklands as a way of hiding how poorly the government is doing its job - again. The Brits have held the Falklands since 1839. The 1982 attack re-kindled British spirit for a bit, and may do so again.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-07-11 21:51|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-07-11 21:51|| Front Page Top

#10 1947 - INTER-AMERICAN TREATY OF RECIPROCAL ASSISTANCE

ARTICLE 3

1. The High Contracting Parties agree that an armed attack by any State against an American State shall be considered as an attack against all the American States and, consequently, each one of the said Contracting Parties undertakes to assist in meeting the attack in the exercise of the inherent right of individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations.

Posted by john frum 2008-07-11 22:03|| 2008-07-11 22:03|| Front Page Top

#11 I think the Brits can still handle Argentina. They arent that p-whipped yet.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-07-11 22:40|| 2008-07-11 22:40|| Front Page Top

#12 and there won't be any surprises in the runup this time

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2008-07-11 22:45|| 2008-07-11 22:45|| Front Page Top

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