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2008-07-09 Syria-Lebanon-Iran

Iran test-fires missiles in Persian Gulf

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Posted by tu3031 2008-07-09 09:24|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 They should have been used as live-fire targets by our interceptors.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-07-09 10:00|| 2008-07-09 10:00|| Front Page Top

#2 At $10 million per Standard SM-3 round, it's cheaper to let the target missile, unless nuke armed, go than to intercept it.

Posted by ed 2008-07-09 10:08|| 2008-07-09 10:08|| Front Page Top

#3 At $10 million per Standard SM-3 round, it's cheaper to let the target missile, unless nuke armed, go than to intercept it.

Call it an advertising expense. A PR move. Proof-of-concept.
i.e. you fuck with us, we knock down your shit and kill the lot of you goat rapers.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-07-09 10:20|| 2008-07-09 10:20|| Front Page Top

#4 Thanks for the ELINT and ballistics and telemetry.

It will come in handy when we shoot those down.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-09 10:32|| 2008-07-09 10:32|| Front Page Top

#5 ... a summit of developing Muslim nations.
Seems to imply that some developed Muslim nations exist. Where?

Posted by GK 2008-07-09 10:34|| 2008-07-09 10:34|| Front Page Top

#6 FYI the $10M is the complete cost averaged across a production run of 154 missiles, rolling in R&D costs as well (At least half a billion in FY05 alone for development costs, nto production costs).

Incremental cost is considerably less per unit - i.e. now that the research is done, it costs us less then $1 million (guesstimate) for each additional missile.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-09 10:37|| 2008-07-09 10:37|| Front Page Top

#7 $1,015,601,310 for 102 SM-3 Block IA = $9.96M each. Production only contract. The R&D alone is well over $10 billion.

Posted by ed 2008-07-09 11:36|| 2008-07-09 11:36|| Front Page Top

#8 The astonishing cost is one reason why I don't want the US to emplace missile defenses in Europe, especially not when the majority of the populations are against it. The complex with 10 GMD interceptors is supposed to cost around $5 billion (AFAICR). Their ass, their responsibility.

Posted by ed 2008-07-09 11:45|| 2008-07-09 11:45|| Front Page Top

#9 Premature Sahabulation?

Posted by swksvolFF 2008-07-09 11:58|| 2008-07-09 11:58|| Front Page Top

#10 Let's return the compliment.

Posted by mojo">mojo 2008-07-09 12:37|| 2008-07-09 12:37|| Front Page Top

#11 One hopes the following:
1) missiles are backtracked to storage sites
2) all traffic into/out of storage sites for n-years is reviewed to determine placement.
3) backtracking from storage to factories.
4) repeat on the factories.

Posted by 3dc 2008-07-09 12:57|| 2008-07-09 12:57|| Front Page Top

#12 You guys are giving away all our secrets!

We're supposed to leak that intelligence stuff.

Posted by The New York Times 2008-07-09 13:04|| 2008-07-09 13:04|| Front Page Top

#13 Makes a good case for escalation. This conflict is going nuke.

Hopefully, we are not permanently sandbagged by the we-can't-do-that-because-we-can't-do-that idiocy. If that UN building was turned into Condos, nobody would believe that crap. Remember Hiroshima and Nagasaki and the fire bombing of Tokyo? Over 500,000 dead in minutes.

Posted by McZoid 2008-07-09 15:43|| 2008-07-09 15:43|| Front Page Top

#14 I've looked at Iran on Google Earth. Heck, I know where their missile production plants are. I also know where they store about half their SILKWORM missiles, and where they park their launchers to fire missiles. It isn't that hard. BTW, napalm on missile storage facilities causes some HUMONGOUS secondary explosions.

Posted by Old Patriot">Old Patriot 2008-07-09 15:43|| http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/]">[http://oldpatriot.blogspot.com/] 2008-07-09 15:43|| Front Page Top

#15 OP - take the launch parameters, radar, guidance, logistics and C3 elements into account, and you can narrow the areas you need to look.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-09 15:57|| 2008-07-09 15:57|| Front Page Top

#16 This is what I read...

Under a contract awarded by the Naval Sea Systems Command, Raytheon will provide 75 Standard Missile-3 Block IA missiles for the United States. The company also will provide 27 similar missiles under the Foreign Military Sales program, which funnels weapons to allied nations through the U.S. military procurement process.
The Defense Department said it will initially fund about $92.8 million under the contract, which runs to February 2012.

I guess I misread that as being the total production run award.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-09 16:05|| 2008-07-09 16:05|| Front Page Top

#17 I think Gen. Hossein Salami is full of elite balogna.

Posted by Muggsy Glink 2008-07-09 17:52|| 2008-07-09 17:52|| Front Page Top

#18 Actually, Iran has been able to perfect its mobile missile systems in the 6 years since they were tagged with the "axis of evil" monicker. In fact, since 9-11 that filthy country has become richer and more fanatic. If they acquire an intercontinental ICBC threat, we will have to blame Bush's suicidal, face saving alliance with Iraq Shiites for that unnecessary threat.

What happened to Bush's "West Point" doctrine of "pre-emption"? He is becoming a sick joke.

Posted by Elmolunter Mussolini6660 2008-07-09 18:39|| 2008-07-09 18:39|| Front Page Top

#19 WAFF.com > WND.com - CONGRESS EXAMINES [Iran] EMP THREAT [to USA]IRAN PLANNING TO DEV MISSLES THAT CAN HIT THE US.

ALso from WAFF > ARGENTINA MIL THREAT RAISES NEW FEARS OVER FALKLANDS. Argentina's Madame President plans to claim a formal Argent stake in ANTARCTICA + INTENT ON USING ARGENTINE MIL TROOPS TO DEFEND ITS INTERESTS. Similar to RUSSIA's reported willingness to deploy WINTER WARFARE TROOPS to defend its new ARCTIC = NORTH POLE INTERESTS/CLAIMS. ARGENTINA IS FOLLOWING THE LEAD OF CHINA, FRANCE, NORWAY, + AUSTRALIA, etc. as per the ANTARCTIC

ANTARCTIC > HMMMMMM, well, for one its more evidencia that WOT > MACKINDER'S WAR BTWN NEW WORLD + OLD WORLD > NEW WORLD = AMERICAS IS CURR PREVAILING as per the proposed "TEXAS TRANS-CORRIDOR/SUPER-HIGHWAY", NAU + Pan Amer Union, + VARIOUS PROPOS OWG FREE TRADE ZONES [espec CONUS-NORAM].

As HORACE GREELY once did NOT say > "GO TO ZIMBABWE, YOUNG MAN, GO TO ZIMBABWE"!?

Posted by JosephMendiola 2008-07-09 20:48|| 2008-07-09 20:48|| Front Page Top

#20 Good for them, we can put ours through a flea's ass from 5,000 miles away.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-07-09 21:18|| 2008-07-09 21:18|| Front Page Top

#21 The C301 copies of the CSS_N-2 are not that mobile - and that's what would close hormuz.

These missiles are nearly 6meters long with an 3 meter wingspan. THey have a large truck-mounted rada array that is needed for target acquisiton and initial guidance.

Those have to come up, emit and get the target. They do that, they are DEAD from a HARM.

C301 radars and launchpoints have a very very short life expectancy after the initial salvo.

Also, their longest range misslies are 1200miles or so in range - the Shahab3 specifically, and they have a 700-800 kg single payload, or less if using cluster munitions (mainly chemical/nerve). CEP estimates vary but are generallybetween 500m and 1 KM (lowest is 200m, highest 3km). This is a weapon that is used only for terror with HE or conventional cluster warneads, or needs an area effect WMD to be effective.

Open sources reveal about 20 launchers at best, and they are tightly controlled.

Most of the advanced capability was purchased form NKor originally (Its basically a NoDong missile) with some Chinese help later, and more sales of rocket motors form the Norks (who go themfrom the Chinese and resold them).

Basically, yes Iran can cause a lot of damage initially, but after that they are in for a world-class assbeating. C3I targets, including power generation and transmission, telecom, broadcast com, and water planst will all be disabled or destroyed. WIhtin a month they will have no power, no water no sewage and no fuel (one refinery). Cholera will run rampant in the large cities- and you'll see perhaps a million or more dead, non from firepower, but fromthe loss of clean water, electricity and modern medical care. Within 6 months starvation will set in.

Posted by OldSpook 2008-07-09 21:36|| 2008-07-09 21:36|| Front Page Top

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