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Obama cites Kirkuk and Kobani as examples of success against ISIS

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Posted by Fred 2015-07-08 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top
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#1 I guess future historians will call us Civilization of the Shameless.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2015-07-08 02:17|| 2015-07-08 02:17|| Front Page Top

#2 Were they successes? Sort of, in a 'last man standing' sense. Did he have anything to do with them? Well, he was alive on the planet at the same time, and apparently all things flow from his selfness.

Posted by ed in texas 2015-07-08 07:30|| 2015-07-08 07:30|| Front Page Top

#3 "Ideologies are not defeated by guns" must be the new catchphrase. He says it twice in the six sentences quoted, and approaches the idea once, for a total of 50%. Perhaps this is a non-representative sample, but listening to that speech must have been excruciating.

Posted by trailing wife 2015-07-08 08:01|| 2015-07-08 08:01|| Front Page Top

#4 "Ideologies are not defeated by guns" - maybe not by guns alone, but if the opponent ideology is using guns your ideology had better be able to defend itself.

Posted by Glenmore 2015-07-08 08:33|| 2015-07-08 08:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Well the towns being overrun by ISIS is a victory in Obumble's eyes. He WANTS them to win.

Posted by DarthVader 2015-07-08 09:49|| 2015-07-08 09:49|| Front Page Top

#6 Yes. I'm sure the ISJV will trade it all for gay marriage, free contraception, and feminism.

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-07-08 12:40|| 2015-07-08 12:40|| Front Page Top

#7 Remember when the ISJV was about to overrun Kobani, and Team Obama started distancing itself from the impending capture and slaughter of its residents, "Oh, Kobani? Just a little crossroads town, to biggie."

Or, straight from the horse's mouth:
Speaking tonight, the US Secretary of State, John Kerry, suggested that preventing the fall of Kobani was not a strategic US objective. “As horrific as it is to watch in real time what is happening in Kobani, you have to step back and understand the strategic objective,” he said.

October 8, 2014, Independent UK

Posted by swksvolFF 2015-07-08 18:49|| 2015-07-08 18:49|| Front Page Top

#8 Ideologies might not be defeated by guns, but it is Nukes 1 Shinto 0.

Posted by Shipman 2015-07-08 20:48|| 2015-07-08 20:48|| Front Page Top

#9 "We will never be at war wid Islam" > Wehell, To paraph "THE AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON"S CAPTAIN AMERICA = "RADICAL ISLAM IS AT WAR WID US"!

Speaking of "generational struggle" ...

* TOPIX > [RCP] OBAMA'S LONG-TERM STRATEGY FOR DEFEATING ISIS LEAVES PROBLEMS FOR [new/next]GENERATIONS.

* SAME > [USJCS Chair] DEMPSEY DESCRIBES ISIL STRATEGY, "UNCERTAIN GLOBAL SECURITY".

NUTSHELL, Dempsey says that, thus far, ...
> US-ALLIED Islamist Enemies are getting increasingly STRONGER.
> US ALLIES are increasingly reliant or dependent on US Materiel + Other DIRECT SUPPORT/MILAID for battlefield success + operations - widout it only God knows iff they can defeat the ISIS + Qaeda Boyz, etal. on their own.
> US-SPECIFIC COMPARATIVE ADVANTAGES STEADILY DECREASING = MINIMIZED.

* TOPIX > OBAMA'S NEW IRAQ STRATEGY BOILS DOWN TO "DON'T LOSE" - BLOOMBERG VIEW.

Ditto as per agz CHINA in East-South China Seas???

* WORLD NEWS > [Business Insider] US STILL DOESN'T HAVE A STRATEGY THAT HAS CHANCE OF DEFEATING ISIS.

* BIGNEWSNETWORK > ASHTON CARTER [admits]: US HAS TRAINED AN "AWFULLY SMALL NUMBER OF ["Moderate"]SYRIAN REBELS", far far below expected target of 5,400.

As per CNN AM, things got a little testy wid John Mccain on the subject while Carter was testifying in committee on the Hill - see below.

* RELATED DAILY STAR > MCCAIN SUGGESTS US "LOSING" AGZ ISIS [Calls Obama Admin's claims of success "DELUSIONAL/SELF-DELUSIONAL"].

* RELATED LUCIANNE > WHILE HOUSE ADMITS NOT ENOUGH SYRIAN REBELS TRAINED.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2015-07-08 22:50|| 2015-07-08 22:50|| Front Page Top

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