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2009-07-01 China-Japan-Koreas

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Posted by Steve White 2009-07-01 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11132 views ] Top

#1 kimmie doesnt give a bottle of kimchi for Zelaya, dont be silly.

My guess (caveat:I am not a navy guy and dont know the fuel and range issues) is that they did NOT have a safe port within reach. So they turned around, just as the UNSC policy envisioned.

I really doubt they were afraid of a Burmese inspection. Burma is the damned consignee on the arms shipment, they already KNOW whats in it, they friggin paid for it.

A good thing that happened on Obamas watch (so far) but really, the policy wasnt obamas alone,and it was in some respects an obvious policy that flowed out of ideas circulated years ago, IIUC.

Note- UNSC CAN be useful against baddies - IF the baddie is someone who has managed to piss off the PRC as well as us. A big enough IF not to RELY on the UNSC, but still reason not to write off the UNSC.

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-07-01 09:51|| 2009-07-01 09:51|| Front Page Top

#2 Submarine drop off?

Posted by 746 2009-07-01 09:59|| 2009-07-01 09:59|| Front Page Top

#3 to whom? I dont think Burma has subs. China doesnt need anything Nkor has to sell.

Ya think Iran sent a sub their? Venezuala?

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-07-01 10:00|| 2009-07-01 10:00|| Front Page Top

#4 China buys raw materials from NK.

Posted by ed 2009-07-01 10:06|| 2009-07-01 10:06|| Front Page Top

#5 Ok, quibble taken. but they dont need those things badly enough to pick them up by sub drop off.

A sub dropoff implies a valuable small package, like a nuke. China makes its own nukes.

Aside from which they can get anything they want from NKOR by land.

Posted by liberal hawk 2009-07-01 10:14|| 2009-07-01 10:14|| Front Page Top

#6 They're off the coast of Vietnam. There's Chinese ports to the northeast.

I wouldn't go congratulating anyone just yet.

Posted by Pappy 2009-07-01 11:51|| 2009-07-01 11:51|| Front Page Top

#7 (caveat:I am not a navy guy and don't know the fuel and range issues)
Answer,
Navy ships can refuel under way, civilian snips Can't so naval ships have near infinite range (We also can take on provisions, and the ship distills fresh water from seawater) Again, effectively Infinite.
Stern chases are very much in the navy's favor from the very start.

Posted by Redneck Jim 2009-07-01 14:46|| 2009-07-01 14:46|| Front Page Top

#8 HMMMMMM, HMMMMMM, NOKOR HAS THREATENED PER SE WAR = NUKE-WMD FIRESTORM?SHOWER/RAIN AGZ THE US-ALLIES IFF ITS SHIPS ARE STOPPED ANDOR ITS TEST LAUNCHES ARE INTERCEPTED. Hence, the RUSH LIMBAUGH-ian, Spicy Kimchee-Squid Questionne'-vouz is will this NOKOR SHIP [ships?] head back home; or else linger in the region during Nokor's upcoming new launch towards Hawaii???

Read, NOKOR "FIRST-STRIKE" = "BOLT-FROM-THE-BLUE/SEA" as per this vessel [others?] already in the East-Central Pacific regions???

Sub-read, e.g. WW2 "Q-Ships".

Posted by JosephMendiola 2009-07-01 19:03|| 2009-07-01 19:03|| Front Page Top

#9 Navy ships can refuel under way, civilian snips Can't so naval ships have near infinite range (We also can take on provisions, and the ship distills fresh water from seawater) Again, effectively Infinite.

Depends. The Chinese merchant (arms) ship off the coast of South Africa was able to refuel. Likely because the crew were either PLAN or PLAN-reserve. The NorKs could have a similar set up wrt crew. Astern refueling really isn't that hard; at the worst, they meet up with a fuel barge in a sheltered cove and take on fuel at anchor.

Posted by Pappy 2009-07-01 20:48|| 2009-07-01 20:48|| Front Page Top

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