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2023-06-26 Science & Technology
US Coast Guard launches an investigation into the tragedy with the bathyscaphe 'Titan'
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Posted by badanov 2023-06-26 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ]  Top

#1 Inquisitive cartel readers want to know.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-26 00:08||   2023-06-26 00:08|| Front Page Top

#2 Why are the US taxpayers funding this when all evidence points to an egocentric and arrogant individual that flaunted all the rules and the accident took place in international waters? This is crazy
Posted by USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 07:45||   2023-06-26 07:45|| Front Page Top

#3 It's funny how with some disasters it's urgent to "learn from it" while with others it's "nothing to see here" all the way down.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-06-26 07:47||   2023-06-26 07:47|| Front Page Top

#4 Didn't the company fire an employee who spoke out on safety concerns some time ago?

Surely "investigators" will be beating a path to this employee's door. Surely.
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-26 08:28||   2023-06-26 08:28|| Front Page Top

#5 The pilot. Never was a man so relieved he was fired.
Posted by Enver Slager8035 2023-06-26 08:33||   2023-06-26 08:33|| Front Page Top

#6 Did this occur in US waters? No.
Was this mission run from the US? No.
Why is this supposed to be any of your business?
Posted by ed in texas 2023-06-26 09:33||   2023-06-26 09:33|| Front Page Top

#7 Let's take bets.

#1 - Rapid de-lamination of Carbon Fibers due to multiple stress micro-fractures obtained during previous 'voyages'. (Someone here at the 'burg said something to the effect of "Carbon Fiber is very strong, until it isn't")

#2 - 'Inspiring' pilots, with knowledge of game controllers, utilized in lieu of someone with actual undersea experience in what to do for an emergency. (Probably moot point if #1 occurred, although someone experienced might have actually checked hull conditions in detail prior to dive)

#3 - Idiot (and greedy) company owner(s) who bypassed deep dive hull safety conventions when constructing this little non-metallic death trap.
Posted by Mullah Richard 2023-06-26 09:55||   2023-06-26 09:55|| Front Page Top

#8 The detection of the implosion is not a new thing. The wreck of the USS Scorpion was found using similar data. The work of Dr. John P. Craven at the US Navy's Special Project Office was key to that effort.

I'd expect that the US Navy is still interested in any new empirical observations that can be made from such events. And here's one to examine.
Posted by M. Murcek 2023-06-26 09:59||   2023-06-26 09:59|| Front Page Top

#9 
#2 Why are the US taxpayers funding this when all evidence points to an egocentric and arrogant individual that flaunted all the rules and the accident took place in international waters? This is crazy
Posted by: USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 07:45

USN,

My understanding is that since the USCG was tasked to help and there were US citizens aboard, they have the right to institute a full investigation. Yes, it's more of Our Tax Dollars At Work, but quite honestly if they help put a crimp in the Titanic tourism industry I for one will consider it money well spent. My $0.02 of course, YMMV. :)


#8 The detection of the implosion is not a new thing. The wreck of the USS Scorpion was found using similar data. The work of Dr. John P. Craven at the US Navy's Special Project Office was key to that effort.

I'd expect that the US Navy is still interested in any new empirical observations that can be made from such events. And here's one to examine.
Posted by: M. Murcek 2023-06-26 09:59

M. Murcek,

What amazes me is this: the best way to picture what the USN did is to imagine standing about 300 feet from a six lane interstate with nothing but longhaul trucks blasting along at 70 MPH...and being able to pick out from the middle of it a Coke can being run over.

Mike

Posted by MikeKozlowski 2023-06-26 11:15||   2023-06-26 11:15|| Front Page Top

#10 What amazes me is...

Acoustic data collection poss monitored by Seaman 0 class. No alerts posted to alarm.

Data released at end-of-shift for next day review.
Missing vessel report posted. Somebody said, 'Oh yeah. (We) might have heard that."

Data pulled from the 3 shifts prior 'unremarkable' archive for review. Incident confirmed to upstairs. Policy manual reviewed for information release constraints.

Appropriate command level is notified.
Release authorized. 4 days later.
Posted by Skidmark 2023-06-26 12:06||   2023-06-26 12:06|| Front Page Top

#11 Skid, exactly. The listeners may not have even been aware that the submersible was being launched, and that it had disappeared. Only later when they went back and looked at the data did they realize "Hey, that funny noise we heard could have been it."
Posted by Rambler in Virginia 2023-06-26 12:21||   2023-06-26 12:21|| Front Page Top

#12 ^ how often do they hear that kind of pop? I'm sure the experienced ones can tell subs apart like a good tracker following game.
Posted by Procopius2k 2023-06-26 14:05||   2023-06-26 14:05|| Front Page Top

#13 Investigation with lots of media potential, chances to justify jobs, organizations, positive PR, what Biden political appointee would pass that up?

For the SOSUS guys, a chance to evaluate how your reporting system reacted to something undersea off the coast of North America that went kaboom at depth, with the bulk of the non-classified work done by the "Puddle Pirates".
Posted by NoMoreBS 2023-06-26 15:05||   2023-06-26 15:05|| Front Page Top

#14 Look into Thresher accident for interesting SOSUS discussion. The ‘failed valve’ was never proven, just the consensus of the accident board. The acoustic record provided a different theory, but when that goes against ADM. Rickover, well draw your own thoughts. But in dockside trials, Thresher did have the moisture in the air for the ballast blow tanks freeze as there was no moisture-removing system installed. Blocked airflow. That came after Thresher.
Posted by USN, Ret. 2023-06-26 15:31||   2023-06-26 15:31|| Front Page Top

#15 Did this occur in US waters? No.
Was this mission run from the US? No.
Why is this supposed to be any of your business?

Kind of like the US foreign policy?
Posted by DooDahMan 2023-06-26 22:20||   2023-06-26 22:20|| Front Page Top

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