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2011-06-20 Fifth Column

Mega-Scandal: Was 'Gunwalker' a PR Op for Gun Control?

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Posted by DarthVader 2011-06-20 11:50|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 Although "Gunrunner" was most likely from the very top, some mid-level managers at ATFE may bear the blame but it's guaranteed that little will make it up the chain in this scandal. Treasonous.

Posted by Ominous1 2011-06-20 14:14|| 2011-06-20 14:14|| Front Page Top

#2 Alinskyism, applied to gun control.

Treason indeed.

Posted by no mo uro 2011-06-20 14:48|| 2011-06-20 14:48|| Front Page Top

#3 I'll apply Ocams Ear Twirly and come up with Career Bureaucrats seeing names in paper and a sure promotion. ATF has THE STUPID.

Posted by Goldies Every Damn Where 2011-06-20 17:27|| 2011-06-20 17:27|| Front Page Top

#4 I had a similar opinion, some dipshit thought this a good idea until there were dead Mexican police, starting spinning before the news broke.

But that does not explain the operation. Somebody had to approve this action, a Rantburger and apologies for forgetting who, pointed out that it is a bit more complicated then a go/no go but would have to have active work done by a higher up to release the weapons. When this broke we all looked at the plan and could not figure out how it was supposed to work without at the very least close cooperation with Mexico. So why did the approver approve such a high risk low reward, flawed plan?

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-06-20 18:18|| 2011-06-20 18:18|| Front Page Top

#5 I'll bet the ultimate objective is gun-grabbing and gun control in the U.S.

Posted by JohnQC 2011-06-20 18:21|| 2011-06-20 18:21|| Front Page Top

#6 So why did the approver approve such a high risk low reward, flawed plan?

Never deny the STUPID.
Srsly. The STUPID is with us, usually 3 steps behind you.

Posted by Goldies Every Damn Where 2011-06-20 18:33|| 2011-06-20 18:33|| Front Page Top

#7 You think?

Did they really think that supplying the Mexican Drug Cartels with tons of guns would somehow magically reveal some sinister parallel gun-running operation from here? When they couldn't track the guns once they crossed the border.

Personally I think this was an operation to flood the Mexican Cartel market with American made guns - so that they can later claim that most guns in the conflict came from the US (making Bambi's 90% lie true) and we need tighter gun control.

Posted by CrazyFool 2011-06-20 18:41|| 2011-06-20 18:41|| Front Page Top

#8 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence...

Posted by Bisa 2011-06-20 18:54|| 2011-06-20 18:54|| Front Page Top

#9 it doesn't have to be an "either or". They have already proven their baldfaced dishonesty and incompetence. I suspect both, as in a malicious program to flood US guns to Mexico that would create a "crisis!!11!" (you may heard that term before in this administration?) necessitating registration and gun-grabbing, particularly in that pesky Southwest that doesn't vote Donk enough

Posted by Frank G 2011-06-20 19:22|| 2011-06-20 19:22|| Front Page Top

#10 Operation ~~Gunwalker~~ Reichstag Fire

Posted by Procopius2k 2011-06-20 19:23|| 2011-06-20 19:23|| Front Page Top

#11 Never attribute to malice what can be explained by incompetence...

Never attribute omnicompetence to the malicious.

Posted by Zhang Fei 2011-06-20 19:31|| 2011-06-20 19:31|| Front Page Top

#12 Now lets not make Assumptions. Personally I don't think Obama has it in his spine to do this, yet alone Holder, for the sole purpose of Gun Control. Now some mid-level Desk Lackey looking to score idealogical points, maybe.

Posted by Charles 2011-06-20 20:28|| 2011-06-20 20:28|| Front Page Top

#13 So why did the approver approve such a high risk low reward, flawed plan?

Are you referring to Nixon or Bambi?

btw, P2K, don't you mean the Bundestag fire?

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2011-06-20 20:51|| 2011-06-20 20:51|| Front Page Top

#14 I'm not at conspiracy, at least not yet. It would be interesting if the timing of the gun control campaign where Calderon went before Congress etc matched up with damage control timeline.

Posted by swksvolFF 2011-06-20 22:29|| 2011-06-20 22:29|| Front Page Top

#15 Now some mid-level Desk Lackey looking to score idealogical points, maybe.

I wouldn't consider ATF acting director Ken Melson a mid-level "Desk Lackey".

Posted by Pappy 2011-06-20 22:30|| 2011-06-20 22:30|| Front Page Top

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