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2004-06-19 Home Front: Politix
Kerry: We must destroy al Qaida
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Posted by Silentbrick 2004-06-19 00:21|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 What an idiot this guy is....what did he do just wake up? duh 911 Froggy...
No wonder we call you sKerry!!
Posted by Long Hair Republican  2004-06-19 1:25:22 AM||   2004-06-19 1:25:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 (ON this issue only)

John, put down the crack pipe and don't pass it back to George. Tell the State Dept to stop handing it out to all you politicians and the press.

The Saudis will NEVER fully cooperate. They frigging FUND the terrorists - and its the Wahabbi-ism that the Saudis spread that serves as the substrate in which the seeds of terrorism sprout and take root.

Bush, Kerry, etc are ALL wrong on they way they want to go about this.

We need to plan on replacing the Saudi government, and policing the area. Not us in person, but at least some proxies (Due to Mecca, etc).
Posted by OldSpook 2004-06-19 1:25:47 AM||   2004-06-19 1:25:47 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 One of the freakiest thing about Democrats, especially SKerry is that, they say how they're going to destroy terrorists, end poverty, stand up for the working man, but yet, they never explain "HOW". And why is it, nobody ever asks them right after they say it, "How do you intend to do this?" I will never vote for any politician who wants to do things but can't explain how he would do them.

That sort of nonsense doesn't fly in the business world.

Wait...sorry, forgot about the .com founders and they're magical ride on the stock market. But then, it's not actually their fault quite so much. I think far too many brokerage houses saw a chance for the old, "We can take your capital and turn it into valuable broker fees in just a few short weeks."
Posted by Silentbrick  2004-06-19 1:36:11 AM||   2004-06-19 1:36:11 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 OS - "We need to plan on replacing the Saudi government, and policing the area. Not us in person, but at least some proxies (Due to Mecca, etc)."

I'm very curious to hear more.

I freely admit that, regards Saudi and the fucking 'Special Relationship' and the legions of well-paid turncoats here at home and in every pile of people that calls itself an organization, we would eventually evolve to an adversarial standoff (due to killings, lack of coop, Nayef, etc) and then act when either the public will finally overwhelmed the internal and external PR machines (best case) or have to wait for the House to Fall / Civil War (worst case)... then, assuming we've staged our forces in Kuwait, Bahrain, and Qatar, we seize the oil sands before facilities are damaged and the obvious market disruptions bring down the world financial system. You've heard the rest of the Rep of Eastern Arabia game.

What you said, though, implies something very different. Do you have a plan outline you're happy with - one you could post?
Posted by .com 2004-06-19 1:40:58 AM||   2004-06-19 1:40:58 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Well, I could post what I have in mind, but I need to talk it over with someone first.
Posted by Oldspook 2004-06-19 1:47:26 AM||   2004-06-19 1:47:26 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 Spot-on, the Dems are all bluster and no substance. Just more pandering to the country, saying "We're gotta get you bad guys, I was in Vietnam you know."
Posted by Capt America 2004-06-19 1:50:31 AM||   2004-06-19 1:50:31 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 One of the freakiest thing about Democrats, especially SKerry is that, they say how they're going to destroy terrorists, end poverty,..

They're not going to do anything of the sort. They haven't ended poverty by any stretch of the imagination, so how in heaven's name do they figure they're going to destroy terrorists?
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-19 1:57:20 AM||   2004-06-19 1:57:20 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 OS - Cool, whenever you're ready, then let 'er rip!
Posted by .com 2004-06-19 2:00:24 AM||   2004-06-19 2:00:24 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 OS - One dramatic change today I'd like to note is that I think the Khobar Killings and the Johnson Murder have moved US public opinion a long long way for such a short time. I've been reading non-stop today and even the idiotarian news sources are having problems keeping up the usual "allies" BS.

Maybe, just maybe, we don't need to take another hit on the US homeland for the magical 50% milestone calling for hardcore cooperation, and if the Saudis fail to deliver it, then direct US intervention.

Of course, every percentage point swing toward reality is good - no matter what plan is being considered, heh. I'm frustrated by all the silly posts that ignore the realities of the political mechanics required for the President to act. If I were a praying man, I'd be praying for Bush and a 'Publican sweep in November so there would be the Executive will plus no stupid Congressional impediments against acting in Saudi and Iran once the casis belli is put forward to the public and accepted.
Posted by .com 2004-06-19 2:14:17 AM||   2004-06-19 2:14:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 Big words, lofty goals, no substance. There is more going for a hot air balloon than the dems have. All carbs, no protein, you get the picture. Pfeh!
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-19 2:34:32 AM||   2004-06-19 2:34:32 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 Old Spook to .com -- Well, I could post what I have in mind, but I need to talk it over with someone first.

Plus, then he'd have to kill you. :-)
Posted by Steve White  2004-06-19 2:58:40 AM||   2004-06-19 2:58:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#12 Old Spook: We need to plan on replacing the Saudi government, and policing the area. Not us in person, but at least some proxies (Due to Mecca, etc).

I've found my candidate for Director, Central Intelligence, Republic of Eastern Arabia.
Posted by Steve White  2004-06-19 2:59:51 AM||   2004-06-19 2:59:51 AM|| Front Page Top

#13 Dr Steve:
"then he'd have to kill you"
Lol! I should've seen that one coming!

"OS -- Director, Central Intelligence, Republic of Eastern Arabia"
Perfect! I'll bet he'll demand his own Spooky with 3 crews and a Maverick-armed Predator with 3 operators. Sounds reasonable to me, LOL!

Okay, Good Work! That's ONE. Y'know, maybe you need to pick your own position, too - I was just funnin' 'bout SecHEALTH.

Hint: Move up until you get a nosebleed!
Posted by .com 2004-06-19 3:11:15 AM||   2004-06-19 3:11:15 AM|| Front Page Top

#14 I think we need to recognize that Kerry is at least saying the right stuff. And to be honest, we need to move the liberals that support Kerry into a more realistic evaluation of the war on terror. Without that, they will always be fifth columnists, out to wreck everything, including our lives.

Besides which, from what I am seeing, Saudi Arabia is in the throes of a civil war. Which side do we back? Or can we back either side effectively? I am not so sure that it is as simple as some have suggested.

I won't vote for Kerry, but I think that when he says the right things, he should be given kudos for it. It might be all BS, but it is a start. And hopefully, he can help the left come to a more realistic grip on the situation before they get us all killed.
Posted by Ben  2004-06-19 4:28:13 AM||   2004-06-19 4:28:13 AM|| Front Page Top

#15 An American has his head cut off and the candidate for president of a major political party:

Senator John Kerry issued the following statement

He issues a "statement"? This MF'ing jerk doesn't come out, stand up before the American people and personally denounce this incredible atrocity. He issues a press release. This man has no blood or sinew. He truly is Lurch, the undead.

Kerry is channelling Dukakis. He is going to be totalled in November.
Posted by RMcLeod  2004-06-19 4:42:53 AM||   2004-06-19 4:42:53 AM|| Front Page Top

#16 Ben - My first response was very, um, vivid and graphic. I trashed it. Instead of all that I'll just use one of the lines I've seen at Glenn Reynolds' Instapundit:

He's not just anti-war, he's on the other side.
Posted by .com 2004-06-19 4:56:36 AM||   2004-06-19 4:56:36 AM|| Front Page Top

#17 About that Plan -- seems to me taking the 40 km strip would be a lot easier than trying to take on all of Saudi and then trying to manage it. BTW I noticed a bunch of new job openings in Riyadh at my company's web site. These are for technicians supporting the Saudi military. Without foreign techs, the Saudi military is going to be in a heap of trouble.
Posted by virginian 2004-06-19 7:15:44 AM||   2004-06-19 7:15:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#18 
This must be our nation's highest priority
What did SKerry do, take a poll? Of Americans other than his Dem-o-Rat moonbat supporters?

I think it's more likely he's (a) pissed that the terrorists keep doing this shit & reminding Americans over and over what's in store for the rest of us if we don't fight them with everything we've got, and (b) trying to figure out some way to blame Bush instead of Al-Q. His "statement" is just a politically expedient stopgap until he can figure out how.
Posted by Barbara Skolaut  2004-06-19 10:38:05 AM||   2004-06-19 10:38:05 AM|| Front Page Top

#19 #2 John, put down the crack pipe and don't pass it back to George. Tell the State Dept to stop handing it out to all you politicians and the press ... The Saudis will NEVER fully cooperate. They frigging FUND the terrorists - and its the Wahabbi-ism that the Saudis spread that serves as the substrate in which the seeds of terrorism sprout and take root ... Bush, Kerry, etc are ALL wrong on they way they want to go about this.

OldSpook, you make me especially glad that I have already praised your forthright style elsewhere. It is absolutely refreshing to see someone dispense with partisan politics and call a spade a spade.

Thank you.
Posted by Zenster 2004-06-19 12:43:31 PM||   2004-06-19 12:43:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 Come on, folks. Don't be too rough on (s)Kerry. He is just flip flopping (sine waving) his way to a position on the matter. Everyone has a different approach to solving a problem. Kerry's approach is that of an undamped pendulum. Symple Physics....
Posted by Alaska Paul 2004-06-19 12:57:09 PM||   2004-06-19 12:57:09 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 The Saudis will NEVER fully cooperate. They frigging FUND the terrorists - and its the Wahabbi-ism that the Saudis spread that serves as the substrate in which the seeds of terrorism sprout and take root.

Throwing out a theory here: The House of Saud funding the Wahabbis is pretty much a given. Is this current round of fanatics a weapon used by one side in the war between the Princes?

>We need to plan on replacing the Saudi government, and policing the area. Not us in person, but at least some proxies (Due to Mecca, etc).<

Agreed. I still think there's factions of the SA military that can be co-opted.
Posted by Pappy 2004-06-19 2:42:39 PM||   2004-06-19 2:42:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 
Throwing out a theory here: The House of Saud funding the Wahabbis is pretty much a given. Is this current round of fanatics a weapon used by one side in the war between the Princes?

That's been my theory.
Posted by Robert Crawford  2004-06-19 2:54:59 PM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/]  2004-06-19 2:54:59 PM|| Front Page Top

#23 I think we need to recognize that Kerry is at least saying the right stuff.

For someone who's been known to change his positions, it's always easy to say the right stuff.
Posted by Bomb-a-rama 2004-06-19 4:45:42 PM||   2004-06-19 4:45:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#24 Well, I guess it's an improvement over "Bring it on!"

Could be Democratic Party platform fodder.
Posted by Capt America  2004-06-19 5:05:48 PM|| [http://captamerica.blogspot.com/]  2004-06-19 5:05:48 PM|| Front Page Top

#25 If I were a praying man, I'd be praying for Bush and a 'Publican sweep in November.

My Dad always saida Bonazi! (In case we loose!)
It didn't cost nothing and made everbody laugh....
Posted by Shipman 2004-06-19 7:45:42 PM||   2004-06-19 7:45:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#26 The only side we take in the Saudi civil war is our side. Which means if the "friendly to US" Sauds don't clean house, them we do it for them, and the house of Saud becomes the house of Fall.
All I know is that when those planes slammed into our buildings, they rocked our world. And our plan, if we stick to it, is to rock their world. That means we do what what we must do for our benefit, including and especially preserving the oil. Return mocka and funky cold Medina to Hashenite admin. The Sauds know this, their days are numbered.
Remember, the greatest danger a muslim faces is islam. the cult of murder. So we'll be doing them a favor as well;
We rock with Democ. In such primitive societies they back whomever they think is winning. This is no time to go wobbly, lest end up going wahabbi
Posted by Annie War  2004-06-19 9:28:14 PM||   2004-06-19 9:28:14 PM|| Front Page Top

#27 To .com:
Some friends and I have got a quote for flying a banner over San Diego If Kerry comes back.We are planning putting this on: FOR/AGAINST KERRY WAFFLES.This will be 7foot high letters and towed by plane for two hours.Input/ideas accepted.One version was a target with the statement:Throw your medals at this !!
Posted by rich woods  2004-06-21 11:34:21 AM||   2004-06-21 11:34:21 AM|| Front Page Top

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