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2022-06-11 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

'It seems now it's our turn to get our lands back': Smirking Putin threatens Sweden and compares himself to tyrant Peter The Great while issuing chilling threat to Scandinavia

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Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-11 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11134 views ] Top

#1 Putin given 'urgent medical help' after falling ill while talking to military chiefs, Kremlin insider claims, with doctors advising him 'not to make any lengthy public appearances'

Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-10 12:01|| 2022-06-10 12:01|| Front Page Top

#2 My $'s on Finland; they're not bending over for this guy.

Posted by Raj 2022-06-11 00:39|| 2022-06-11 00:39|| Front Page Top

#3 Unless Putin wants a lot of trees what is to gain in Finland?

Posted by magpie 2022-06-11 01:16|| 2022-06-11 01:16|| Front Page Top

#4 #3 Unless Putin wants a lot of trees what is to gain in Finland?

Finland was formerly an autonomous province of Russia from 1809 until the revolution.

Posted by badanov 2022-06-11 01:56|| 2022-06-11 01:56|| Front Page Top

#5 More lies and ludicrous bullshit from British tabloids aimed at gullible fools who think Russia's still communist.

There is absolutely nothing in the speech that constitutes a "threat," to Sweden or any other nation.

In fact the speech and the Q&A session from which this offhand remark was lifted had nothing at all to do with relations between Russia and the Baltic. It was all about advanced technology development and trade relations with world beyond Europe. The meeting was with young scientists, engineers and technology entrepreneurs, and the questions were about materials science, fiber optics, trade and export opportunities etc.

The particular remark about territory capped a long discussion about the sources of national strength -- technological, military, economic and socio-cultural. Most of it was obvious but European and American leaders who welcome in millions of illiterate, violent, and anti-Semitic third world migrants would do well to ponder these sensible observations.

The English language transcript is here.

Of course the speech would deal with Peter the Great: it took place in Peter's gorgeous city, the most beautiful city north of Venice, in advance of the annual St Petersburg Economic Forum and inside a famous hall in Moscow which contains exhibits dedicated to the extraordinary achievements of this leader.

Peter was a kind of hybrid of Elon Musk and Charlemagne who mastered many of the great technologies of his era. An accurate report of the speech and Q&A session with these young technologists would have highlighted Tsar Peter's concern with technology -- in his day, the emphasis was on shipbuilding, which he learned about by disguising himself as an ordinary worker and apprenticing himself as a carpenter to try to master the craft (and learn the secrets) of Dutch shipbuilding from the ground up.

Here is a fine 3-part Radio Netherlands overview, beginning with "The Carpenter Tsar": how, during his visits to Holland, Peter studied ship-building, city-planning, hydraulic engineering, science, dentistry, anatomy, fortress building and even fashion. And all this resulted in a radical transformation of Russia and Russians, a modern navy and a magnificent new capital Saint Petersburg, complete with canals.

Posted by Peter Timmerman 2022-06-11 08:08|| 2022-06-11 08:08|| Front Page Top

#6 To clarify, the speech occurred in advance of the St Petersburg forum but it took place in Moscow, in the part of the science and technology exhibit hall that's dedicated to Peter's achievements.

Posted by Peter Timmerman 2022-06-11 08:13|| 2022-06-11 08:13|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ thank you, Timmerman. That's an amazing story.

Peter's 21st century successor is focused on development of hypersonic missiles, which he highlighted in his speech to the young technologists. It's no mystery why the shit tabloids and the British intelligence services try to detract people from this conference and this speech about Russian technology, trade ties with China and the other BRICs, military strength etc. Russia's current leader's understanding of science, technology and economics dwarfs that of any American or European leader (aside from Angela Merkel) of the last 80 years. Hence all the ridiculous bullshit about his declining health.

Here is a video of him speaking. Compare this precise, clear and confident speaker to the blithering of Joseph R. Scheisskopf Jr. and ask yourself again which country's leader is mentally decrepit.

Posted by Gomez Bucket8000 2022-06-11 08:24|| 2022-06-11 08:24|| Front Page Top

#8 Hallo Gomez -- your link isn't there. No worries; I've seen videos of that speech and many others by Putin. He does indeed speak calmly and clearly about complex historical, technical and economic subjects, with no "ums" or "ahhs" or filler words, in a way that puts to shame western politicians (agree that Merkel is a notable exception).

It's really astonishing how this anodyne little talk has been twisted beyond recognition by the British press.

It's almost as if they want to distract you from the next catastrophic Mariupol-caliber defeat for the Ukrainians, in Severodonetsk...

Posted by Peter Timmerman 2022-06-11 08:37|| 2022-06-11 08:37|| Front Page Top

#9 Thank you Peter Timmerman for your article about Putin. I used to think he was America's enemy and he should be punished. You have completely changed my mind. Now I believe the Russian people are America's enemy and it is good to see Russia bleed in Ukraine, regardless of the outcome.

Posted by The Walking Unvaxed 2022-06-11 09:01|| 2022-06-11 09:01|| Front Page Top

#10 A walk on the streets of New York and witness the game of three card monte being played on a rube. Has that feel today, doesn't it.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-06-11 09:09|| 2022-06-11 09:09|| Front Page Top

#11 Some say Putin is actually Ming the Merciless, intent on the conquest of our Solar System. If this is true, and I have no reason to think that the media or our government would lie to us, then the People of Earth must rise up as one and defeat this tyrant.

Posted by SteveS 2022-06-11 09:11|| 2022-06-11 09:11|| Front Page Top

#12 and his paid sycophants whose posting style is easily recognizable regardless of what nym they hide behind

Posted by Frank G 2022-06-11 09:33|| 2022-06-11 09:33|| Front Page Top

#13 Vaxxer made a few errors -- I've fixed them: Now I ~~believe~~ know the ~~Russian people~~ Democrats are America's enemy and it is ~~good~~ bad to ~~see Russia~~ let them bleed ~~in Ukraine~~ America, regardless of their attempts to distract us with another of their foolish failed overseas wars

Posted by Oil Derek 2022-06-11 09:37|| 2022-06-11 09:37|| Front Page Top

#14 Still here, Rambo?

Why aren't you in Severodonetsk?

You missed Mariupol, but that's OK. Still time for you to get out from behind the keyboard and give 'em hell. Bring some shells (not this kind 🏖but y'know the explosive kind... the Ukrainians don't have any left)

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 09:56|| 2022-06-11 09:56|| Front Page Top

#15 Go reinforce uh replace the Ukrainian deserters.

Ukrainian Troops Are Deserting
Cases of desertion are growing among Ukrainian forces suffering "massive losses" in Russia's artillery onslaught, report says

Bethany Dawson 4 hours ago

Ukraine is now facing "massive losses" with Russia overpowering Ukraine's ammunition and artillery store.
There has been a rise in desertion as morale declines, says an intelligence report seen by The Independent.
Ukraine is now dependent on Western donations of supplies, Ukrainian officials say.

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 10:06|| 2022-06-11 10:06|| Front Page Top

#16 Again with the broad strokes of the "we" brush. Plenty of people in the USA really don't care if Ukraine is completely dissolved.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-11 10:08|| 2022-06-11 10:08|| Front Page Top

#17 Disciples of Dr. Zarkov, I knew it. You know, its your fault The Earth is being destroyed.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-06-11 10:12|| 2022-06-11 10:12|| Front Page Top

#18 Sounds like it's guerilla warfare time too me.

Posted by Chris 2022-06-11 10:14|| 2022-06-11 10:14|| Front Page Top

#19 guerilla [sic] warfare time

... with guerrilla deserters?

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 10:51|| 2022-06-11 10:51|| Front Page Top

#20 Finns agree... bears R cute

Posted by Marilyn Wittlesbach3951 2022-06-11 11:20|| 2022-06-11 11:20|| Front Page Top

#21 I wonder how long it takes Gomez and Timmerman to get the taste of Putin out of their mouths.

Or if they're even different people.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-11 11:25|| 2022-06-11 11:25|| Front Page Top

#22 Get thee to Donbas, Rob! Replacements are desperately needed. Hurry! Pick up some ammo on your way

Posted by Peter Timmerman 2022-06-11 11:39|| 2022-06-11 11:39|| Front Page Top

#23 I do like "Joseph R. Scheisskopf Jr." for a change of pace insult. But as for the other parts of the sales pitch, your mastery of the English language, western culture and history, and detailed linkages to exclusively pro-Russian stories seem like what it is, PSYOPS. What I enjoy is its investment in this little corner of the ether, it seems overkill unless you know who lurks in our readership. That I find interesting.

Posted by NoMoreBS 2022-06-11 11:50|| 2022-06-11 11:50|| Front Page Top

#24 Re #19 oh please excuse my spelling dipshit

Posted by Chris 2022-06-11 12:12|| 2022-06-11 12:12|| Front Page Top

#25 dipshit

Moise L. Dipschitz to you, buddy

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 12:37|| 2022-06-11 12:37|| Front Page Top

#26 (I didn't ask to be named Moise)

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 12:39|| 2022-06-11 12:39|| Front Page Top

#27 Goodness, the trolls get repetitive.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-11 13:17|| 2022-06-11 13:17|| Front Page Top

#28 Moise L. Dipschitz

I can’t imagine that a Litvak would be involved in such things, such superior beings they are! ;-)

Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-11 13:26|| 2022-06-11 13:26|| Front Page Top

#29 Thought the trolls didn't work weekends?

Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-11 14:25|| 2022-06-11 14:25|| Front Page Top

#30 trouble in Paradise?

Ukraine Slams Biden's Comments on Zelensky Not Heeding Warnings—'Absurd'

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 15:39|| 2022-06-11 15:39|| Front Page Top

#31 Who's lying? Surely not Honest Joe. Right??

Aides to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky have responded to Joe Biden's comment that the Ukrainian president "didn't want to hear" American warnings before Russia's invasion.

Speaking at a Democratic Party fundraiser in Los Angeles on Friday, the president said, "I know a lot of people thought I was maybe exaggerating and Zelensky didn't want to hear it," Biden added.

Zelensky's spokesman Sergei Nikiforov said the Ukrainian leader had "three or four telephone conversations" with Biden before the war started, during which they discussed assessments of the situation in detail.

Nikiforov told Russian-language Ukrainian news outlet LIGA.net, "If you remember, the president of Ukraine called on partners to introduce a package of preventive sanctions in order to encourage Russia to withdraw troops and de-escalate the situation. Here we can already say that our partners 'did not want to hear us,'" Nikiforov said.

Meanwhile, Zelensky's adviser Mikhail Podolyak told the same news outlet that Biden's comments were "not entirely true" and that Kyiv had been "well aware that Russia was developing various expansion scenarios."

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 15:44|| 2022-06-11 15:44|| Front Page Top

#32 I can't imagine why I'd believe any of them.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-11 15:51|| 2022-06-11 15:51|| Front Page Top

#33 "introduce a package of preventive sanctions"

🤡 Oh NO!! Not preventive sanctions!!

No more Big Macs?! The horror, the horror

McDonald's is Back as Russian Economy Rolls On
On Sunday — Russia Day, a patriotic holiday — he will reopen 15 stores, including the former flagship McDonald’s on Moscow’s Pushkin Square, the place where, in 1990, thousands of Soviets famously lined up for a taste of the West. The chain will operate under a still-to-be-disclosed new brand, though the new logo has been unveiled, said to represent a hamburger and French fries.

The hash browns will go by a Russian name, according to a menu leaked to a Russian tabloid. And, since the secret sauce is proprietary, there will be no Big Mac on offer.

Posted by Black Bart 2022-06-11 15:56|| 2022-06-11 15:56|| Front Page Top

#34 ^ Yellow-blue [thrown under the Biden] bus!

Posted by Otto Glesh6372 2022-06-11 16:14|| 2022-06-11 16:14|| Front Page Top

#35 Great basis for an over / under poll. When does the last uniparty DC swine stop wearing a Ukraine pin and get back to their constituents' business?

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-06-11 16:16|| 2022-06-11 16:16|| Front Page Top

#36 When?

A) after the J6 show trials end

B) after the last M777's titanium has been stripped off and sold for cash by Paul Pelosi

C) after Zelensky and his retinue surface in his Tel Aviv villa with a cool billion and a new comedy show satirizing Backstabbing Biden / Americans / Germany / Israel etc

D) 2-3 more weeks, or after the Russians cut to shreds the remaining 1,000 km line of 40,000 Uke soldiers

Posted by Grampaw Snong7331 2022-06-11 16:35|| 2022-06-11 16:35|| Front Page Top

#37 #33 hash browns will go by a Russian name

Probably not "Svoboda Spuds."

Posted by Muggsy Crereling7492 2022-06-11 16:37|| 2022-06-11 16:37|| Front Page Top

#38 Jesus. Can't you guys just talk to each other in the break room instead of hanging out here?

Posted by Secret Master 2022-06-11 18:06|| 2022-06-11 18:06|| Front Page Top

#39 #37 #33 hash browns will go by a Russian name

Probably not Svoboda Spuds.""

maybe a German name -- like Kartoffel

Posted by Flaish Gleling1548 2022-06-11 18:36|| 2022-06-11 18:36|| Front Page Top

#40 #36 When?
A) after the J6 show trials end
B) after the last M777's titanium has been stripped off and sold for cash by Paul Pelosi
C) after Zelensky and his retinue surface in his Tel Aviv villa with a cool billion and a new comedy show satirizing Backstabbing Biden / Americans / Germany / Israel etc

I'll take 'D' for $600, Alex:
D) 2-3 more weeks, or after the Russians cut to shreds the remaining 1,000 km line of 40,000 Uke soldiers

Posted by Flaish Gleling1548 2022-06-11 18:40|| 2022-06-11 18:40|| Front Page Top

#41 #38 - they're paid

Posted by Frank G 2022-06-11 19:43|| 2022-06-11 19:43|| Front Page Top

#42 /\...like writers in the 18th and 19th centuries were paid by the word.

Posted by magpie 2022-06-11 19:59|| 2022-06-11 19:59|| Front Page Top

#43 D) 2-3 more weeks, or after the Russians cut to shreds the remaining 1,000 km line of 40,000 Uke soldiers

Well, they've been telling us for the last three months or so continuously how they were going to cut the country in two and cut off all the Ukrainian soldiers in the west, and now they're degenerating into WW1-style large scale infantry/artillery battles in Severodonesk at the tip of the supposedly to-be-cut-off area.

Or so they said when they gave up on trying to take Kiev.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-11 20:11|| 2022-06-11 20:11|| Front Page Top

#44 #30 trouble in Paradise?

Ukraine Slams Biden's Comments on Zelensky Not Heeding Warnings—'Absurd'

What, you think we didn't know Biden was an idiot? How many times did we tell you we think he's really on Putin's payroll?

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-06-11 20:12|| 2022-06-11 20:12|| Front Page Top

#45 ^ They're off for the night.

Posted by Frank G 2022-06-11 20:40|| 2022-06-11 20:40|| Front Page Top

#46 Just another day... in Paradise
Oh lawd... is there nothing anyone can do?

Joe Biden Tosses Zelensky Under the Bus and Backs up Over Him
By Bonchie
RedState
Jun 11, 2022

Posted by Cholutle Squank6086 2022-06-11 20:48|| 2022-06-11 20:48|| Front Page Top

#47 #34 ^ Yellow-blue [thrown under the Biden] bus!

I see what you did there Otto ;)
🇺🇦

Posted by Cholutle Squank6086 2022-06-11 20:50|| 2022-06-11 20:50|| Front Page Top

#48 Rambo's too late for Severodonetsk. Unless he knows how to put out chemical fires

Posted by Peter Timmerman 2022-06-11 23:24|| 2022-06-11 23:24|| Front Page Top

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22:44 trailing wife
20:50 Cholutle Squank6086
20:48 Cholutle Squank6086
20:40 Frank G
20:18 Rob Crawford
20:12 Thing From Snowy Mountain
20:11 Thing From Snowy Mountain
19:59 magpie
19:57 magpie
19:43 Frank G
19:39 Slavirong Gray7617
19:30 Frank G
18:40 Flaish Gleling1548
18:36 Flaish Gleling1548
18:06 Secret Master
17:41 Thing From Snowy Mountain
17:16 Procopius2k
16:43 trailing wife
16:37 Muggsy Crereling7492
16:35 Grampaw Snong7331
16:35 SteveS
16:16 M. Murcek
16:14 Otto Glesh6372