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2006-06-10 China-Japan-Koreas

Chinese military writer exposes US strategy

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Posted by Phomoger Creger6714 2006-06-10 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11129 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Lots of issues here, but first... I though we were at about 240 conflict while still in Vietnam. Note how the sub-rosa ones are not counted. I think this count is low.

Posted by 3dc 2006-06-10 00:59|| 2006-06-10 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 Yep, we's evil, alright! One need only look at the tsunami aid our military provided in Indonesia to see an example.

And when Antarctica melts from global warming, it will be a unipolar world and no one can do anything about it. BWAHAHAHA.

Posted by SteveS 2006-06-10 01:43|| 2006-06-10 01:43|| Front Page Top

#3 It's the American Empire! LOL. Now where did we put our empire? It's gotta be around here somewhere...

The truth is, in 200 years we've surpassed the 6,000 yr old Chinese dungheap like it was standing still. Which it was, lol. And has been for millenia.

This is pure tripe. But fun tripe. I liked the opening:

...the United States started or took part in more than 240 wars and foreign military operations. Hence it can be said that it is the wars that have made what the US is today.

Hence? Wotta dipshit. A nation of laws, an open democratic society, living free, collaborating in science, medicine, electronics, intellectual property, private property, capitalism, etc, etc, these are what made America what it is today.

Fucking idiots, projecting their own twisted failed intellectual limitations while ignoring obvious reality. Steal what you can, ChiComs, it's all you'll ever have. Backward, arrogant, ignorant, assholes.

Posted by flyover 2006-06-10 02:43|| 2006-06-10 02:43|| Front Page Top

#4 Part of his cliam is Russia is a power that will rejuvenate itself sooner or later. I don't think that likely, and if it does it will be nowhere near the scale it was before.

Posted by JerseyMike 2006-06-10 07:51|| 2006-06-10 07:51|| Front Page Top

#5 Who is Lu Dehong, anyway? Michael Moore's ghostwriter?

Posted by Mike 2006-06-10 08:34|| 2006-06-10 08:34|| Front Page Top

#6 I have a book in my library somewhere, 'A Country Made by War'. The author, a reasonably conservative fellow, makes the point that Americans profess peace and wield the sword whenever necessary, which seems to be a lot. I dunno about 240 times, but every few years we have a full war or intervention somewhere.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-06-10 11:31|| 2006-06-10 11:31|| Front Page Top

#7 --The truth is, in 200 years we've surpassed the 6,000 yr old Chinese dungheap like it was standing still. Which it was, lol. And has been for millenia.--

There's a joke about this, the Chinese gave us gun powder, pasta, etc., etc., then they discovered opium and the world caught up.

Posted by anonymous2u 2006-06-10 13:28|| 2006-06-10 13:28|| Front Page Top

#8 He misses a basic factor of US policy: the democratic revolution.

That is, the US competes across the board with non-democratic nations, such as China; with both military and non-military competition.

However, with democratic nations, like Japan, the US only competes economically. Were Japan to suddenly go on a military spending spree, even one as big as China's, assuming its democratic politics remained stable and non-radical, the US would notice, but it would not even be opposed, much less try and stop them.

This is because while the US doesn't mind being economically superior to other democracies, it doesn't go to war over keeping this status. "Blood for oil" is nonsense.

However, we will respond, and forcefully, to a military build-up by a non-democratic power. We have long since learned that while we might deal with such a government, we cannot trust them in any way, and sooner or later, non-democratic powers will clash with democracies, militarily.

The old Soviet Union had a similar and opposite philosophy. It felt it could only trust other police states, and felt threatened even by liberal communist nations.

In 1968, this was the reason they invaded peaceful, liberal, and loyal communist ally Czechoslovakia, to the surprise of much of their army, instead of the brutal Tito regime of Yugoslavia, which was a bitter enemy of Moscow and even threatened to fight the Red Army. Moscow could tolerate Tito's brutality, but Brezhnev was deadly afraid of the Prague Spring.

In any event, to the utter bafflement of the Chinese, no doubt, relations with the US would improve dramatically if it made even a few modest movements in the direction of democritization.

Right now, they are being driven to distraction, because the concept of "voting" for ordinary things is becoming rooted in the population, despite their best efforts to forbid it. To the average Chinese on the street, voting for things make sense, as a more efficient way of doing much of everything.

Even in non-democratic situations, someone will chime in "Let's vote on it", and more and more, to oppose voting sounds like insisting that everyone hop around on their left foot only instead of walking.

In that greatest of all ironies, the Chinese government would be utterly shocked to learn that if the people voted, they would generally vote for exactly the same things that the communist party votes for. There would be no great revolution. People love to vote the status quo.

And yet, were they to permit voting, suddenly they would in many ways cease to be the great potential enemy of the US. Because the greatest migration of opinion in democratic situations, is towards peace.

After just a few years, the Chinese people would lose their belligerence towards Taiwan, and in doing so, Taiwan would stop feeling so threatened, and be far more inclined to a peaceful reunification. Eventually the two would rejoin by, of all things, a mutual popular vote to rejoin--no military anything required.

And those people who rule China now would continue to rule China, as much as those that ruled Russia continue to rule Russia.

Posted by Anonymoose 2006-06-10 20:48|| 2006-06-10 20:48|| Front Page Top

#9 Some real facts and conclusions.
The US was a leader in the industrial revolution, then space and practically everything else. All along, we viewed the world as a poor cousin. We fought their wars, and fed them. Now, we unselfishly spread our means of production among these poor cousins, and attempt to lead them into modern lifestyle. If you examine South and North Korea, you will see how the US has spread this lifestyle and communism and totalitarianism have spread only misery. China is a perfect example of our real strategy. We have sought to do business with China without strings attached. We believe in time, China will embrace capitalism, and then democracy. Without the freedom real democracy brings, development and inititive are blunted.
We don't really want China, Russia, or any other country to challenge us as world leaders, we just want them to stop being stupid and backward. We don't even expect them to say thanks.

Posted by wxjames 2006-06-10 21:05|| 2006-06-10 21:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Remember, boyz, any seeming US defeat or failure over Iran-ME, andor North Korea-Taiwan, will be interpreetd by AMer's enemies as a de facto decline in US geopol power. influence, or position. And where ANTI-AMERICAN AMERICANS are concerned, COMMUNISM and TOTALITARIANISM is the answer to the National, Regional, and Global problems, controversies, corruptions and anarchies wrought by Dubya and the FASCIST GOP-Right. The FAILED LEFT > FASCIST > HATED DESPICABLE BRUTISH IMPERIALIST ARROGANT HITLERIST = BELOVED WELL-MEANING, BUT MISGUIDED ERROR-PRONE INNOCENT MOTHERLY HALF-A-STALINIST. The Masculine = Feminine, Thesis = anti-Thesis, Nationalism =Anti-Nationalism, etc. The answer to defective Rightist Authoritarian Socialism > perfect Leftist Totalitarianist Socialism, espec after 2008 and Der MarthaStalinFrau POTUS=CO-POTUS Hillary.

Posted by JosephMendiola 2006-06-10 21:50|| 2006-06-10 21:50|| Front Page Top

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