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2012-06-09 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by g(r)omgoru 2012-06-09 01:30|| || Front Page|| [11125 views ] Top

#1 Are we on the verge of a new upheaval, a "fourth revolution"

Yes, I believe we are. It will take a ~~village~~ revolution to free us from Obama.

Posted by Besoeker in New Harmony 2012-06-09 07:23|| 2012-06-09 07:23|| Front Page Top

#2 There is a great deal of deliberately built-in inertia in the political system. We are a two-party system. Committee structures, committee leadership, Congressional perks, seniority, all are designed to keep things the way they are for a long time. Popular movements such as the teaparty take a long time to change things through the election process. I say they are "popular" but they tend to be hated by the leadership of both parties.

Posted by JohnQC 2012-06-09 10:41|| 2012-06-09 10:41|| Front Page Top

#3 The point of the article is that we're not a two-party system, we're a one and a half party system: the minority party has to go along and allow itself to be co-opted (see also, 'RINO'). The Democrats have pretty much called how our society will be organized from 1932 to the present day, Reagan not withstanding. Before that it was the Republicans from about 1860, and the Democrats from about 1800.

So if we're going to have a 'fourth revolution', not only would the Republicans have a long-term ascendency and have its agenda broadly implemented in our society, but the Democrats would become the co-opted party. We'd start to hear about 'DINOs', and 'Blue Dogs' would run that party.

It could happen, I suppose, and the writer points out that these revolutions have occurred over short periods of time.

Posted by Steve White 2012-06-09 11:18|| 2012-06-09 11:18|| Front Page Top

#4 There is a chance we could have a fourth revolution. Besides having a two-party system (or 1-1/2 party system) there is much inertia to overcome there are lobbyists and special interest groups. Public sector unions have a strangle-hold on state governments and have usurped citizen votes. There are about as many taxpayers and tax users. That said, there is hope and movements in the direction of a 4th revolution. It may be at a nascent point.

Posted by JohnQC 2012-06-09 11:47|| 2012-06-09 11:47|| Front Page Top

#5 IIRC, the New Deal began at a point in US history where all US banks had closed. THAT seemed to eliminate 'political inertia' rather quickly.
There are many possible outcomes of the world economic crisis that might accomplish a similar feat.

Posted by Anguper Hupomosing9418 2012-06-09 11:59|| 2012-06-09 11:59|| Front Page Top

#6 I can see a third party of sane libertarians ripped out of both parties. If such a party replaced dems all would be good. If it replaced repubs we might not see much difference.

Posted by Rjschwarz 2012-06-09 15:38|| 2012-06-09 15:38|| Front Page Top

#7 There are many other ways in the Universe to conduct business. The old order is going to dissipate one way or another.

Posted by newc 2012-06-09 15:51|| 2012-06-09 15:51|| Front Page Top

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