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2022-06-08 -Short Attention Span Theater-

Complete Coincidence? At Least 7 Large Farm Fires Occur in US in Last 10 Days

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Posted by Besoeker 2022-06-08 01:36|| || Front Page|| [11126 views ] Top

#1 A stack of green hay bales will spontaneously burst into flames if tightly stacked in a barn too soon before it has had a chance to dry out which is a common occurance early summer during hay cutting season.

Posted by Black Charlie Slairt1430 2022-06-08 02:04|| 2022-06-08 02:04|| Front Page Top

#2 Every farmer has heard stories of someone affected by a hay fire. It certainly isn’t a minor incident since it can damage property and threaten lives. While hay fires can occur during transportation, they are more likely to be caused by spontaneous combustion once the bales are at the farm.

Actually, wet hay is more likely to lead to spontaneous combustion than dry hay. If wet hay with more than 22% moisture is stored in a barn or stacked then the risk of spontaneous combustion is increased. Further, the wet hay loses in forage quality.

When the internal temperature of hay rises above 130 degrees Fahrenheit (55 degrees C) it provokes a chemical reaction producing flammable gases that can ignite. Most hay fires occur within 6-weeks of baling. Heating occurs in all hay above 15% moisture, but generally peaks at 125 to 130 degrees F within three to seven days with a minimal risk of combustion or forage quality loss. In the next 15 to 60-days depending on stack density, external temperatures, humidity and rainfall the internal temperature will decline to a safe level.

https://www.aimscentral.com/keeping-hay-fires-from-spontaneous-combustion/

Posted by Black Charlie Slairt1430 2022-06-08 02:13|| 2022-06-08 02:13|| Front Page Top

#3 This is why my mulch pile — tiny in comparison — is situated far from the house. Even damp, a pile of lawn clippings and autumn leaves “cooks” spontaneously as the materials break down into humus, becoming hot enough to kill insects and weed seeds.

Posted by trailing wife 2022-06-08 02:30|| 2022-06-08 02:30|| Front Page Top

#4 Without discussion of usual rates of fires, this is purely fear mongering.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-08 06:45|| 2022-06-08 06:45|| Front Page Top

#5 Maybe some Vegan in the Animal Liberation Front (ALF) NUTCASE is doing it to protest Anti-Animal Slavery?

Posted by NN2N1 2022-06-08 06:59|| 2022-06-08 06:59|| Front Page Top

#6 Or they're the usual accidents, just someone who hasn't checked the baseline rate is watching the news.

Posted by Rob Crawford 2022-06-08 07:01|| 2022-06-08 07:01|| Front Page Top

#7 There's a rush to produce before fuel prices get any higher.

Posted by Skidmark 2022-06-08 08:36|| 2022-06-08 08:36|| Front Page Top

#8 Don't give AOC or Granholm ideas. Soon they'll be calling for green hay to be used as fuel in their green energy plan

Posted by Oil Derek 2022-06-08 08:39|| 2022-06-08 08:39|| Front Page Top

#9 It's just another variance of the old "Black churches are burning" cycle.*

* till someone actually looks at the numbers to find its nothing out of normal for all churches burning, if not less.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-06-08 08:42|| 2022-06-08 08:42|| Front Page Top

#10 #2 Every farmer has heard stories of someone affected by a hay fire.

This only happens with fresh green bales when the hay has not been let dry properly in the field.

As for the rest of the arsons, the food factories or farms. Expect KGB Wray to continue to ignore the destruction and our worthless GOP turds to pants down bend over and let him.

We as a nation are completely fucked.

Posted by Woodrow 2022-06-08 09:35|| 2022-06-08 09:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Around here most hay seems to be stored in metal sheds (maybe the wooden barns burned down?

Posted by Glenmore 2022-06-08 09:55|| 2022-06-08 09:55|| Front Page Top

#12 We'll fall back on (so I'm told) the Houston Police Dept's command policy:
When in danger
When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout
(Hair on fire optional.)

Posted by ed in texas 2022-06-08 10:09|| 2022-06-08 10:09|| Front Page Top

#13 ^ Nice :-)

Posted by Frank G 2022-06-08 10:11|| 2022-06-08 10:11|| Front Page Top

#14
I remember some Hay stacks in Germany were spread over a wooded pyramid, allowing air flow.

As teens at the US/UK base Military in Hubbelrath(sp) we used them for dates.

Posted by NN2N1 2022-06-08 10:28|| 2022-06-08 10:28|| Front Page Top

#15 There's a rush to produce before fuel prices get any higher.

Yes.

Posted by swksvolFF 2022-06-08 10:37|| 2022-06-08 10:37|| Front Page Top

#16 Growing up in rural Georgia you would here about a couple of barns burning down every year. Agreed Rob Crawford.

Posted by Chris 2022-06-08 11:09|| 2022-06-08 11:09|| Front Page Top

#17 This is a nothing burger. Now, about those food processing plants...

Posted by Rex Mundi 2022-06-08 15:11|| 2022-06-08 15:11|| Front Page Top

#18 This is why my mulch pile — tiny in comparison — is situated far from the house. Even damp, a pile of lawn clippings and autumn leaves “cooks” spontaneously as the materials break down into humus, becoming hot enough to kill insects and weed seeds.

I built a compost box three years ago, 1 cubic yard in volume, with pressurized 2" x 6" lumber. I got a temperature of 148 Fahrenheit a day after I loaded it, and the most recent batch (which I fucked up) still got a temp. of 126 F after a few days. Anything above 140 F and held for at least 24 hours will kill all seeds (crabgrass & other crap) and most pathogens.

The temperatures are caused by the nitrogen in the fresh grass (or hay, etc.) being released and interacting with the dead shit (carbon fuel). A small amount of water (sponge wet is how I've seen it described) helps with this decomposition process. Anything above 150 F can and will cause a fire.

Posted by Raj 2022-06-08 17:31|| 2022-06-08 17:31|| Front Page Top

#19 Here's some geek stuff on composting, for those of you who're interested in this sort of thing.

Posted by Raj 2022-06-08 17:36|| 2022-06-08 17:36|| Front Page Top

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