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2004-05-12 Iraq-Jordan
E-mail from Iraq
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Posted by Mr. Davis 2004-05-12 11:41:05 AM|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 Great post. The lesson to be learned here is, despite all the media doom and gloom, our forces and leaders work up a new plan, and keep on task to its successful conclusion.

It was the same thing during the assault phase, when the media were saying all is lost because of attacks on our convoys. Our forces saw the problem and corrected.

If we heeded seriously the media hysteria, we would all be indulging in Jim Jones Kool-Aid.
Posted by Alaska Paul in Wales, Alaska 2004-05-12 12:17:13 PM||   2004-05-12 12:17:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#2 I knew sadr was done once we started to hear stories about the public rejection of him weeks ago in Najaf.

Regarding Fallujah I gotta say I disagreed with the plan there to hand control to this Iraqi militia... but it's been suprisingly quiet there. The question is are they just regrouping for another uprising or have they decided that the price is to high and the alternative (to submit) isn't so bad. We'll see over the coming months. Time is on our side though... as Iraq becomes more autonomous and the population more content with the growing economy the support for these thugs will continue to drop. It's a tough balance we need to strike and I'm willing to wait to see how Fallujah plays out before yelling and screaming that the admin blew it...
Posted by Damn_Proud_American  2004-05-12 12:21:16 PM|| [http://brighterfuture.blogspot.com]  2004-05-12 12:21:16 PM|| Front Page Top

#3 Sadr may be down but he's not out yet.

There are forces (Iran and maybe the UN/EU) that are trying to get Sadr a deal where he pretends to disband his troops in return for a postponement of his arrest (or even better terms).
Posted by mhw 2004-05-12 12:58:41 PM||   2004-05-12 12:58:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#4 Fallujah is still very much a work in progress. Until the "Fallujah Brigade" rounds up the heavy weapons and arrests those Darwin Award candidates who were stupid enough to pose for pictures while mutilating the bodies of Americans, the Marine cordon should stay in place.

As for Sadr's Mehdi Army, their ongoing role as live targets in the Marine and Army Sniper Shooting Range has to be truly depressing. Constant unanswered attrition can break the will of even the most fanatical groups. Also the implication of the increasing willingness of US forces to take mosques under fire coupled with the complete destruction of said mosques when the munitions cached within detonate is not lost on the Grand Ayatollahs. They're going to cut their losses and very soon Sadr is going to wake up dead.
Posted by RWV 2004-05-12 3:30:55 PM||   2004-05-12 3:30:55 PM|| Front Page Top

#5 It has indeed become clear that we are having great success in countering Sadr and his "army" of thugs. Dealings with the Shia leadership with real popular support has been brilliant. And now this email confirms what has been evident for a while; a great victory is being achieved at the very time the presstitutes are wallowing in defeatism. There are lots of details added by our brave soldier that I did not know. What a terrific post!
Posted by VRWconspiracy 2004-05-12 6:30:41 PM||   2004-05-12 6:30:41 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Don't miss the real point of Fallujah: we demonstrated to the Shia that we WOULD negotiate with the Sunnis, on our terms. That definitely changed the state of play.

They began to wonder whether letting Sadr go too far would lead the US to ally ourselves with their Sunni enemies, thereby denying them their rightful place as the majority "party" in Iraq.

It was great move by us, even if Fallujah eventually goes up again. Oh, and there was the little thing of us basically slaughter those who stood against us in Fallujah. We had the power and we used it, first to wipe them out, then to negotiate on OUR terms.

Sadr is also an annoying usurper, that's helped too. But it was Fallujah that changed things.

We're not as "stupid" as our enemies think...but let them continue to think that...their funeral.

Posted by RMcLeod  2004-05-12 6:38:16 PM||   2004-05-12 6:38:16 PM|| Front Page Top

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