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2008-05-14 Caribbean-Latin America

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Posted by lotp 2008-05-14 09:08|| || Front Page|| [11130 views ] Top

#1 As a state, it has been a failure since inception. Now we have about 40 % of it's populace residing in the US as a result. The real danger here is that the drug boyz are now daily causing mayhem directly into US territory and Bush refuses to enforce our sovereignty. We need heavy firepower there supplied by the US Army. It should be flatly stated, to the so-called Mexican gov't and all its citizens that any violation of US territory will result in certain death.

Posted by Woozle Elmeter 2700 2008-05-14 09:28|| 2008-05-14 09:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Mexico is sounding like Columbia circa 1990s. Columbia managed, with US help, to mostly clean up the main government and put the cartels out of the capital.

Mexico can survive this, IF they take US help and IF the population pushes back against the cartels. Building a fence would help this effort since most of the funds for the trouble is drug money. Cut that off, and you are 80% of the way to solving the problem. However, if Mexico continues to see the US as a northern enemy and if the US government continues to pander to illegals and Mexico, a failed state on the US southern border is almost a certainty.

Mexico has had a failed state many times in its history. I see little that will prevent another one unless both the US and Mexico act.

Posted by DarthVader">DarthVader 2008-05-14 09:32|| 2008-05-14 09:32|| Front Page Top

#3 I've suggested in past that Mexico is stumbling towards some kind of civil war. Drug money to finance the war is just the obvious problem. What it will finance is the $64 question.

Perhaps the only saving grace is that their population growth has dropped to sustainment level.

Other problems are that their dozen wealthiest families, unlike American billionaires, do not believe that "a rising tide lifts all boats". In fact the opposite. That their wealth only has value and will give them enjoyment if everyone else are starving. This is the "old Europe" disease, and it breeds radical revolutionary leftism. For all the stupid haranguing the Democrats rant about the wealth disparity in the US, in Mexico it is true.

Mexico has a lot of people who have failed the natural selection test and are just waiting to die out. They have not, perhaps cannot, modernize, so are stuck in a way of life that died out hundreds of years ago. The only question is will it happen slowly or quickly. Plus there is still the old fight between Mexicans and Indians.

Mexico is even having multiple religious crises. From Islam, Catholic vs. Protestant, Aztec, and the enormous Santa Muerte cult.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-05-14 09:37|| 2008-05-14 09:37|| Front Page Top

#4 Mexico is Mexico and unlikely to change. If we want to end the power of the drug cartels, we should legalize drugs.

More likely than the US becoming a failed state is that Caliphornia will become a failed state. They are doing their best to get there. And governor villaragosa will advance the cause substantially.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-14 09:59|| 2008-05-14 09:59|| Front Page Top

#5 That their wealth only has value and will give them enjoyment if everyone else are starving.

And this differs from Al "I've made well over $100M flying around the world in my private jet and scaring the masses about alleged global warming but you should cut your carbon footprint 90%" Gore and his ilk precisely how? Lefties who've made their money desperately want to slam the door before any of the rabble are able to do likewise.

Posted by AzCat 2008-05-14 10:20|| 2008-05-14 10:20|| Front Page Top

#6 Illegal Mexican immigrants demanding their "human rights" guaranteed with American citizenship should start by demanding the same opportunities, responsibilities, and accountability from their own government.

Posted by Thealing Borgia6122 2008-05-14 10:57|| 2008-05-14 10:57|| Front Page Top

#7 The birth of the current constitution and regime of mexico :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristeros
Like the french republic (with which it shares many common features, including its masonoc secularism), its original sin is that it was created against the people, and in a bloodbath.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-14 10:59|| 2008-05-14 10:59|| Front Page Top

#8 Their own government will be the US if they are American citizens. And this is a big part of Mexico's problem. Any decent person with ambition wants to get out of Mexico and the US is quite easy to get to. So Mexico is left with the dregs. That didn't work well for Europe and it won't work well for Mexico.

Posted by Nimble Spemble 2008-05-14 11:00|| 2008-05-14 11:00|| Front Page Top

#9 A fence won't stop illicit trade on the railroads, roads, and bridges, but screening 100% with new technology besides troops on the border with UAV's would be a start. NAFTA should not be a legal loophole to give buinesses a free pass when it comes to security.

Posted by Thealing Borgia6122 2008-05-14 11:05|| 2008-05-14 11:05|| Front Page Top

#10 Mexico needs the US Navy to land a Amphibious Landing Force at Vera Cruz, followed by a punch into Mexico City.

Then throw the Mexican Oligarchy [20 families] into the middle of thje Gulf of Mexico without anything but Bags of Chum.

Then re-Animate General MacArthur... having him run the place for the next 20 years.

Privatize Pemex, the National Petrochemical Corp.

OTOH Reduce the Gigantic International Corps like portions of the Huge Agra Business by using incentives and tax breaks so the small agrarian Mexican society can make a come back.
etc.

/dreaming

Posted by RD">RD 2008-05-14 12:05|| 2008-05-14 12:05|| Front Page Top

#11 AzCat: Actually you are quite correct. Al Gore and his philosophical cronies also have that same old Europe disease, but in an even more extreme version.

They are not satisfied keeping everyone who is not an elite down, in many cases, they wish to eradicate them entirely.

Posted by Anonymoose 2008-05-14 12:07|| 2008-05-14 12:07|| Front Page Top

#12 What's up with the roadside America page sucking up my comments?

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-14 12:16|| 2008-05-14 12:16|| Front Page Top

#13 His comments about Capone and Chicago are bullshit.

Posted by Penguin 2008-05-14 12:48|| 2008-05-14 12:48|| Front Page Top

#14 rjschwarz, no doubt you used at least one of the secret forbidden words. This happens to me an awful lot.

Mr. Gore and his attitude are a rarity amongst those with money in the U.S., as compared to the norm in Mexico. That's the difference.

The only way to stop the drug cartels is to significantly reduce demand in the U.S. and Europe. Legalizing marijuana and such just frees up the cartels to concentrate on the remaining illegal ones. (If everyone gives up one dime bag, think how much we can save together! It'll be as good as replacing that single lightbulb with a compact fluorescent!! /end over-excitement, Al Gore style)

Posted by trailing wife ">trailing wife 2008-05-14 13:59|| 2008-05-14 13:59|| Front Page Top

#15 A recent poll in Mexico found that over 40% of the Mexicans still there, would leave if they had the means, I would call that a failed State.

Posted by GolfBravoUSMC 2008-05-14 14:07|| 2008-05-14 14:07|| Front Page Top

#16 Mexico is Ripe for revolution..

We'd all be better off if we'd help the peasants and middle class revolt rather than let the Marxist and/or Cartels kill off any hope.

Posted by RD">RD 2008-05-14 15:33|| 2008-05-14 15:33|| Front Page Top

#17 Whaddaya mean on the way?

Posted by Barbara Skolaut">Barbara Skolaut 2008-05-14 15:56|| http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/]">[http://ariellestjohndesigns.com/] 2008-05-14 15:56|| Front Page Top

#18 Whaddaya mean on the way?

There goes my comment...

Posted by Raj 2008-05-14 17:38|| 2008-05-14 17:38|| Front Page Top

#19 The baddest bunch are Los Zetas, More here

Posted by tipper 2008-05-14 21:19|| 2008-05-14 21:19|| Front Page Top

#20 REDDIT > YAHOO NEWS > THREE MEXICAN POLICE CHIEFS REQUEST POLITICAL ASYLUM AS VIOLENCE SPILLS OVER BORDERS INTO US.

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