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2014-05-12 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by Pappy 2014-05-12 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11127 views ] Top

#1 Excellent. Thanks for finding this.

Posted by OldSpook 2014-05-12 01:59|| 2014-05-12 01:59|| Front Page Top

#2 SupposeBenghazi was a catastrophic failure, made all the more dangerous by the possibility that Russia had a hand in it.

The Russians are using their Spetsnaz in the Ukraine, why should it seem strange for them to have used Spetznaz in Syrian and Libya? The accuracy of those mortars still confounds me.

One very basic fact that I overlooked about Benghazi; how many 'political demonstration' take place during the hours of darkness? Additionally, how many of these late evening 'demonstrations' actually continue whilst being targeted by US Navy SEAL machinegun fire? Damn few I'd reckon.

Now that it is apparent everyone in the NCA knew Benghazi was a terrorist attack from the onset, why was Ambassador Stevens written off? Forget the commo man Smith and brave SEALS for a moment, why was a US Ambassador left to die with no effort to locate o save him or run his captors to ground? Then, days and weeks after the attack, the greatest crime busing sleuths in the world [F.B.I.] are for some unknown reason delayed in getting to the scene and securing evidence.

It's all beginning to look a bit contrived to me. Not to put on my Alex Jones/Tony Shaffer tin hat, but it make one wonder if perhaps Ambassador Stevens ill-fated trip to Benghazi was the result of his discovering something entirely inconvenient.

Excellent piece. Thanks for posting Pappy.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-12 02:59|| 2014-05-12 02:59|| Front Page Top

#3 What does it matter now?

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2014-05-12 04:24|| 2014-05-12 04:24|| Front Page Top

#4 So heres how it went down. The Turkish Counsel-General is a guy named Tayip Bey or something Turkish like that. A real stand up guy and he, being a Turk with a big mustache , knows which side of his bread is buttered and how the butter got there. The Turks are caught in the middle between Obama and Putin. They are deeply concerned by the situation in Syria. The Russians show Tayip Bey and his friends some SAT photos of Libyan arms deliveries right to Tayips house. Bad. Bad.
So Tayip contacts Ambassador Stevens and say he has to see him right away. Stevens tell Tayip that he will see him in Tripoli in a week. But Tayip says no it has to be in Benghazi and it has to be now. And we have to meet in the CIA HQ..and we have to do it tomorrow evening...not breakfast, not Lunch, DINNER time.
And who is on the menu? Putin says its Ambassador Stevens.
You dont think that happened? Dont ask the MS media...they wont say a word. Where WAS Stevens when he was taken, children? Has Obama made that overly plain. Do you think the CIA is going to help you at any hearings? Do you think Petraeus is going to be in any position to say anything but what he is told to say? This is how it is done in Chicago.
Watch it on television and you get what you deserve.

Posted by Big Thromoth3646 2014-05-12 04:41|| 2014-05-12 04:41|| Front Page Top

#5 it doesn't take any russia centric or turkey centic manuvering to see the problems that the admin has

-the idea of establishing a consulate in Benghazi was a really poor decision and it was probably a Hillary decision at that (or a Hillary/Power/Rice decision)-

why she did that and why Obama agreed to it (if he even did or just voted present) is key to understanding the whole thing

Posted by lord garth 2014-05-12 06:58|| 2014-05-12 06:58|| Front Page Top

#6 Shipping arms via AQ, for the Syrian operation, during time of war (SJR:23, Sept 2001) makes all the Beltway parties liable to Article III clause of aiding and abetting the enemy. Bury it or lawyer up is the game plan in effect.

Posted by P2kontheroad 2014-05-12 07:07|| 2014-05-12 07:07|| Front Page Top

#7 But, but, but we and the Brits know so very little about the region.

Aegis Syrian Conflict Monitor

Care to view the Linkedin site and CV of a garden variety Aegis SCM Advisory analyst?

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-12 07:51|| 2014-05-12 07:51|| Front Page Top

#8 SWI Swissinfo.ch 26 Jan 2012

Swiss Special Forces take over for Aegis LLC in Tripoli.

Swiss special forces will officially take over security tasks at Switzerlands embassy in Libya on Monday, replacing private firm Aegis.

The governments decision to hire Aegis for over three months was widely criticised in Swiss political circles. Although the company is headquartered in Basel since 2010, it also employs 20,000 mercenaries who are deployed mainly in Iraq and Afghanistan, making it one of the worlds biggest private armies.

The government had justified its choice to employ a private firm with local knowledge to guard the Tripoli embassy because it needed time to draw up an operational plan and reach a decision on whether to proceed.

The cabinet has since drawn up legislation banning private security firms operating in conflict zones or holding companies in this sector from being based in Switzerland.

The foreign ministry said on Thursday that the Aegis contract will have cost SFr960,000 altogether. The cost to deploy members of the Army Reconnaissance Detachment 10 should be around SFr600,000 for six months.

The embassy in Tripoli is the only Swiss representation abroad where Swiss soldiers will be responsible for security.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-12 07:58|| 2014-05-12 07:58|| Front Page Top

#9 There is enough data out there to believe the US was using that compound to move weapons, to someone. Just who is still not clear. What the weapons were is also not clear, Small arms or SAMs were the reports. The hit seemed to be either a chance to capture the weapons or payback for giving the weapons to ones enemy. Stevens was more than likely just caught in the middle. They probably did not know who he was, but that my opinion. It was not a protest, that was going on at the embassy, this was an annex and there was no media, protests alert the media, this did not happen. It was a coordinated attack using the protest as distraction to add to the confusion. Why did Obama lie to America, like some have noted, to cover up the arms shipments. We still don't know who they went to. Unfortunately some poor schmuck who made a Mohamed pron video took a big hit by the USG as part of their shell game to distract and mislead Americans. Obama is an amateur and fool. Hillary is well seasoned at lying, very calculated in her tactics, has a machine behind her to discredit anyone who objects to her, and is on plan to be president. Her big mistake is the Tea Party. She never expected politicians to not care about her attacks and seek the truth anyway.

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-05-12 11:01|| 2014-05-12 11:01|| Front Page Top

#10 The lie is much more dangerous than the truth. America can live with an Obama mistake. But it cant live with an Obama who cannot acknowledge his mistakes.

Ah, but we are living with his mistakes and his lies. It sucks but we're doing it. I blame the Republicans every bit as much. Romney made a feeble effort to call him on it during the debate. A very feeble effort. There has been a little talk since then but absolutely no action. Where is the outrage? What good is an opposition party if they don't oppose anything?

Posted by Ebbang Uluque6305 2014-05-12 11:35|| 2014-05-12 11:35|| Front Page Top

#11 Just a guess, EU6305, but I suppose it's the fear of being labeled racist, then the threatening phone calls...

Posted by Bobby 2014-05-12 13:47|| 2014-05-12 13:47|| Front Page Top

#12 Can't seem to shake the feeling that the RINO 'pubs are just as deeply involved in Benghazi as Mr. Obama and company.

Posted by Uncle Phester 2014-05-12 16:38|| 2014-05-12 16:38|| Front Page Top

#13 Actually it makes perfect sense Uncle Phester. Why not hook a few of highly placed RINO pubs into the scheme as insurance. Make'em feel impotent. Part of something really exotic, super, duper secret. Not the entire package mind you, just enough to make them co-conspirators when it all goes south. A pretty good strategy I'd say.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-12 16:45|| 2014-05-12 16:45|| Front Page Top

#14 Look there!!! Nobel Peace Prize!!! See how it glitters!?!

Posted by AlmostAnonuymous5839 2014-05-12 16:54|| 2014-05-12 16:54|| Front Page Top

#15 Picture your typical partisan Democrat.

Gets a guaranteed income, from some public sector source.

Gets their "information" stream from some combination of legacy print media, the Comedy Channel, the alphabet networks minus FOX, and NPR/PBS.

What we say here at Rantburg, while important, will never be heard by those people. Literally never. Those "news" sources will never report any story or fact of substance that might reflect in any negative fashion on Obama or any Democrat. Never. Ever.

Worse, even if the left did hear it, it wouldn't cause the normative human reaction of outrage and revulsion we experience. There would instead be a cascade of events, as follows:

Obama or Hillary or Warren sets fire to a bus load of third graders, kills them and eats one of the corpses. It is captured on film. FOX news reports it.

1. A friend or family member sends them a link to a FOX news story reporting it. They respond "That news was on FAUX, and I didn't hear about it on NPR, so it isn't real."

For most of them, it will end there. But let's take it out further.......

2. More news starts to seep out about the incident. The partisans will then blame the event on conservatives and devout Christians (the actual words used will be "it's Bush's fault").

3. As even more information begins to surface, eventually, in an effort to rescue the narrative and preserve in office Democrats who will maintain the magic paychecks at any cost, the line will be "well, yeah, oh course they killed those kids. It's a wonderful thing!"

Some variant of this progression of events is sure to be coming to a leftist enclave near you in he the near future, regarding Benghazi.

Posted by no mo uro 2014-05-12 17:18|| 2014-05-12 17:18|| Front Page Top

#16 We can't seem to get a handle on F&F, the IRS, or the VA. How in the world are entrenched bureaucracies such as the State Department, NSA, or the odious Klingons going to be held to account? I am least of all hopeful.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-12 17:32|| 2014-05-12 17:32|| Front Page Top

#17 Stevens was more than likely just caught in the middle. They probably did not know who he was, but that my opinion.

Stevens was initially sent, along with a small team, to develop links with anti-Qadaffi rebels in Benghazi. Having successfully done so, he was appointed ambassador after Qadaffi was 'removed'.

Can't seem to shake the feeling that the RINO 'pubs are just as deeply involved in Benghazi as Mr. Obama and company.

Highly possible; especially if one were on the various intelligence and military committees.

Posted by Pappy 2014-05-12 18:00|| 2014-05-12 18:00|| Front Page Top

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