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2014-05-03 Government

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Posted by Bubba Graiting8281 2014-05-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ] Top

#1 A impeachment trial ain't gonna happen unless the Republicans hold the senate. And then their will only be a conviction if the fix isn't in.

Which by judging the remarks of the Republican leadership about surrendering already on Obamacare and amnesty, is already in.

So this is a distraction and a show trial while the US continues down the tyrant path.

I will be happy to be proven otherwise.

Posted by DarthVader 2014-05-03 00:13|| 2014-05-03 00:13|| Front Page Top

#2 It all swings on the upcoming election results. There are still a few primaries between Rino's and Conservatives and Red state Demos are starting to run scared watching Obama's coat tails shred in the polling data. Obama is trying to please his crony base and thus his own personal money supply but that is coming at the reduction of people who will actually get out and vote for him. For example notice how a big labor union turned on him over the Keystone pipeline. The Dims were pretty confident the could turn Texas Blue with Wendy Davis but now people are jumping her ship and the party leadership is redirecting the money the were going to spend on her. Also look at the Article 5 movement and the number of states that have internal secession movements.

Posted by Pearl Borgia1889 2014-05-03 03:11|| 2014-05-03 03:11|| Front Page Top

#3 Any open discussion regarding impeachment should be strongly discouraged. The last thing needed is a victimized Champ. Wounded, they're become very desperate and vulnerable as evidenced by the departure of senior players and surfacing of young, headcase twits. I suspect people like Emanuel, Axelrod, and Panetta saw the end coming long ago.

Concentrate on the 25m targets, regime functionaries and criminal facilitators. Eventually a financial misappropriation trail or event will likely surface. The noise and embarrassment could force a resignation due to illness, fatigue, etc. FLOTUS and No-Rent Robinson hate D.C. anyway. If the Beast shrugs off a 2016 run due to legal pressure or failing poll numbers, Plugs could step with Warren and run with it. [he's been quiet lately and Warren, quite visible]

Again, talk of impeachment should be discontinued for now. Wounded prey are easy to track and will eventually go down.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 04:35|| 2014-05-03 04:35|| Front Page Top

#4 I'll repeat, when the Donks decide that 'he' should go under the bus rather then 'they', stuff will start happening. Not a moment sooner. If and only if that happens the bin is already full of reasons to convict.

Posted by P2kontheroad 2014-05-03 08:20|| 2014-05-03 08:20|| Front Page Top

#5 Get 'em skeered and keep the skeer on 'em"

Agree Beso. It's a quote from a particularly evil Democrat, General NB Forrest, but apt to the present situation.

Posted by AlanC 2014-05-03 08:56|| 2014-05-03 08:56|| Front Page Top

#6 Besoeker. Two conditions are needed for impeachment. First: To ahev the necessary majority. Second: That is till not backfireNoxon had to resign because Democrats and their MSM managed to presuade voters what he had done was unforgivable but as long you don't have 60%+ people thinking Obama should be impeached the GOP cannot do something about him. So now instead of complaining go out and talk to your neighbours.

Posted by JFM 2014-05-03 09:11|| 2014-05-03 09:11|| Front Page Top

#7 Most of my neighbors are retired pubs who detest 'the one' already. Them that ain't... I seldom ever speak to anyway. In Georgia, it's pretty easy to distinguish the two :-(

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 09:17|| 2014-05-03 09:17|| Front Page Top

#8 Move to Massachusetts. Just kidding but you get the idea. You can be talking about weather or beeleeping a Liberal will never miss an occasion to make a disparaging remark about Bush or Romney. We have to learn to do the same at dinners, at family reunions at Internet forums about sports: mention Benghazzy, the IRS, the fall in freddom of expression under Obama (that was můentionned by none other than the Washington Post), districts where turnout was over 150% (and heavily voted for Obama). Never miss half an occasion to disparage Obama or air his dirty secrets.

PS: tghe collapse of Romeny's "Get the vote" effort due to "programming bugs" looks highly suspicious to me. Democra&tic moles in the programming team?

Posted by JFM 2014-05-03 09:33|| 2014-05-03 09:33|| Front Page Top

#9 The detail about the president's location the night of the attack is just one of many revelations that have, in a matter of days, kicked up the controversy to a level not seen since last year.

'What difference does it make' H R Clinton

Posted by Fat Bob Noluck 2014-05-03 09:40|| 2014-05-03 09:40|| Front Page Top

#10 Move to Massachusetts. Just kidding but you get the idea. You can be talking about weather or beeleeping a Liberal will never miss an occasion to make a disparaging remark about Bush or Romney.

Not just a Massachusetts phenomenon. Happened just the other day at an investment kaffeeklatsch. I mentally tagged em, and never speak to him again if I can help it.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 09:43|| 2014-05-03 09:43|| Front Page Top

#11 You have conceded the ground. You must learn to do the same, specially when there are neutrals in front of you. Before they can do their own disparaging remark just tell: "Male honeybees care about as little as Obama while our diplomats were being slaughtered and the day after went to a fund raiser". I know, this is not natural to us. We have to learn to do it.

Posted by JFM 2014-05-03 10:11|| 2014-05-03 10:11|| Front Page Top

#12 Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey said they spoke with Obama at 5 p.m. ET on Sept. 11 that night. They were both on the same call, and said it lasted about 30 minutes. Dempsey said they did not speak again until the attack was over.

Was Gen. Dempsey referring to the initial attack that killed the Ambassador, the subsequent waves against the annex, or after the bug out? The line has always been that Defense couldnt mobilize forces in time to save Stevens and the others. But its never been sufficiently articulated as to how they could possibly know the attack was completely over or that the threat had subsided. Moreover, did President Obama simply throw the keys to Def. Sec. and sayLeon; if you need to attack a Sovereign you got my blessingIll be in the West wing prepping for my fundraiser if you need me?

Posted by DepotGuy 2014-05-03 11:20|| 2014-05-03 11:20|| Front Page Top

#13 We really don't need to impeach this president. I agree it will turn him into a martyr for the left and be more destructive than helpful to our nation. The left's spin machine is very good and their clients are gullible enough to believe the rhetoric and follow it blindly. Just look at how the left is still blaming Bush, and believing it! MSNBC blamed Bush for Obamacare! With a straight face. We need to take the Senate, be humble, and move on to the presidential elections. Imagine he does get impeached. The administration is already blaming the conspiracy on FOX new. The followers currently believe this. Say they bring him down, the left will argue that it was the media that did it, evil FOX. MSNBC, CBS and the rest of the left media will be enraged and they will make it their defining moment to bring down the next republican. The media is already partisan, it will become unbearable, and yes, the media today is bearable compared to what will come.

My recommendation is to go after all of the senior leaders in State, IRS, and DOJ and send them to jail. They allowed the corruption of our system, they should have said no to the president for even hinting at breaking the law. They are supposed to enforce their oath of office. They are accountable for their actions. In essence force ethics into the government departments regardless of the politics and presidents above them. It has worked to a certain degree in DOD, despite Obama's best efforts.

Posted by 49 Pan 2014-05-03 13:02|| 2014-05-03 13:02|| Front Page Top

#14 Now isn't the time for impeachment. Obama should have been impeached before the first midterms on his first term. The country is moving headlong towards another recession that may begin this summer.

Pretty sure other conservatives will say that this house stood by while Obama wrecked the country, and to an extent that is true. But what I say is that impeachment is a political event, not like charging the sunuvabitch with an actual crime, and it requires at least political acquiescence from the other side, which we do not have.

Besides, I have every faith in American capitalism to recover from the damage from the fascist boot of Obama style socialism is lifted.

Posted by badanov 2014-05-03 13:10|| http://www.chriscovert.net 2014-05-03 13:10|| Front Page Top

#15 " ... go after all of the senior leaders in State, IRS, and DOJ and send them to jail ..." An excellent idea! Go after the deputies not the heads of departments. First!

Posted by irishrageboy 2014-05-03 16:28|| 2014-05-03 16:28|| Front Page Top

#16 You don't treat the plague by starting to kill the rats. The fleas just hop on another host (usually human). First you reduce the flea population, then you kill the rats.

If you ready for the expansion of government then the House could alter, increase, and empower their Sergeant at Arms office as a mini-DoJ for servicing subpenas, contempt citations, and arrest powers. Since the Socialist have no problem with using executive offices doing legislative business (or the judiciary for that matter), why not directly empower the legislative branch with their own means of enforcement?

Posted by P2kontheroad 2014-05-03 16:58|| 2014-05-03 16:58|| Front Page Top

#17 A novel idea. Congressional SWAT teams, detention camps, summary execution authority.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 17:12|| 2014-05-03 17:12|| Front Page Top

#18 "Wounded prey are easy to track and will eventually go down."

Having tracked many a deer over the years, B, that is correct.

The question is, how long are you willing to track the prey for. We must be willing to do a persistence hunt or we get Hillary and Warren which is like another 4/8 years of BHO.

Posted by no mo uro 2014-05-03 17:36|| 2014-05-03 17:36|| Front Page Top

#19 I can't bring myself to blame the Champ entirely. Guile, indolence, and evil have been around for quite a long time, and we've likely not seen the last instances. God could have easily equipped us all with DNA which excluded the evil trait. How many evil Golden Retrievers or Green Sea Turtles have you met? But since we don't generally have the dietary requirement of preying on one another for sustenance, we would have probably in time, overbred and produced a dull and mediocre species. Evil appears to be some sort of divine culling tool.

My greater disappointment is with those who were so patently naďve, and so void of critical thinking [or just like him], that they allowed the Champ to ascend to power. Anyway, I'm glad he's "on the run." In doing so, it would appear he's performing in accordance with the greater cosmic plan.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 17:40|| 2014-05-03 17:40|| Front Page Top

#20 ^^What B. said.

But guard your baloney sandwich.

Posted by Shipman 2014-05-03 17:56|| 2014-05-03 17:56|| Front Page Top

#21 Besides, I have every faith in American capitalism to recover from the damage from the fascist boot of Obama style socialism is lifted.

I don't think American capitalism can do much about rtecovering of Iran getting nukes, Al Quaeda getting a safe haven in Irak or islam's infiltration in America.

Posted by JFM 2014-05-03 17:57|| 2014-05-03 17:57|| Front Page Top

#22 JFM - Please see culling tools at #19.

Posted by Besoeker 2014-05-03 18:01|| 2014-05-03 18:01|| Front Page Top

#23 Impeachment isn't going to happen. Assuming he doesn't provoke a civil war, the best thing that happens is that he proves to be so incompetent that he winds up ignored by everyone once he's out of office other than his fluffers in the press. We get a real president in office and start undoing the orgy of steaming crap piles he's going to leave behind. He will serve the country far better as an example of stupid moronic incompetence than any kind of matyr for the left. That way all the left can do is fawn over that yes, he may be turd, but he's a shiny one, with sparkles.

Posted by Silentbrick 2014-05-03 21:51|| 2014-05-03 21:51|| Front Page Top

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