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2008-05-01 Europe

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Posted by Besoeker 2008-05-01 07:31|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top

#1 I call bullshit on all the touchy-feely sociologist and apologists. Our own massive influx of immigrants in the U.S. (made up almost entirely of immigrants) never had any hand wringing sociologists to worry about "integration". Italians, Germans, Irish, Slavics of all sorts came and made a better life for themselves. There was NO welfare, no benefits, no agencies, no nuthin. But they worked, they learned the language, they married American women and eventually, in less than 80 years actually, you can't tell an Irish family from a German family from a Greek family from anyone else. We all look and speak and act the same. well, most of us at least, we still have a few square pegs out there.

Posted by bigjim-ky 2008-05-01 08:36|| 2008-05-01 08:36|| Front Page Top

#2 The difference being BigJim that muslims are taught not to fully integrate by their religious leaders so they dont lose their islamic identity.To them they are muslim first and US/UK second!
Thats the underlying problem!!!!

Posted by Paul 2008-05-01 10:22|| 2008-05-01 10:22|| Front Page Top

#3 A religion that says it's OK to rape and pillage is not much help, either.

Posted by Grunter 2008-05-01 10:57|| 2008-05-01 10:57|| Front Page Top

#4 A government that says it's okay to rape and pillage if you are from a different culture and don't know any better is a serious problem.

The fact that the prisons are filled with Muslims isn't really a problem, it has to be cheaper than having them on the dole burning up cars. If it is a problem force them to join the Foreign Legion. Send them to Africa and then lose the paperwork. Cut a deal with a North African government to rent prison space and transfer them. Problem solved either way.

Posted by rjschwarz 2008-05-01 12:03|| 2008-05-01 12:03|| Front Page Top

#5 The real BS here is that the French let them practice their religion in prison. There should be no Korans allowed in prison, no prayer meetings and any clerics should be kept in solitary confinement. The reason for all this is that this cancer spreads more readily in prison among disaffected youth. It is, after all, the devil's book so it should not be allowed anywhere near all those little devils in training. To hell with their "rights". Are there any Bibles in Algerian prisons? Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think so. There won't be any Bibles left in France if this nonsense continues.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-01 12:19|| 2008-05-01 12:19|| Front Page Top

#6 The mistake that the Frenchies made was in thinking all cultures are equal. Thats why they built big housing projects on the outskirts of their major towns & cities, assuming that they would develop as communities, rather than self destructing.

BigJim-ky mentions the welfare state, others mention the inculcated superiority complex.

The truth is that it is both. Both create a feeling of entitlement. Neither on their own is a cause of dysfunction; it is both right that we should care for the poor and needy and it is also right that individuals should feel that they can and should do better than the next person.

When you add an ideology which bends and breaks all moral and ethical norms, things are bound to get messy.

When you combine it with a nihilistic culture of inferiority such as is engendered by the moribund ideas of Socialism, it gets even messier.

Posted by Admiral Allan Ackbar 2008-05-01 12:27|| 2008-05-01 12:27|| Front Page Top

#7 Cut a deal with a North African government to rent prison space and transfer them. Problem solved either way.

Usually works the other way around, north african gvts ask for more visas, and the french gvt obliges. Sarko did that while visiting algeria when he was interior minister; also, in 1997, Kabylie revolted against the arab central gvt (though many of the algerian generals actually are kabyls, but they're just as jacobin as the best of them), and to ease the pressure, the algerian gvt asked its french counterpart to ease the visas demands for algerian wishing to go to France. As a result, Kabylie sent its sons and daughters to France, and the pressure was off for algeria.
The details are blurry for me, because my mind is rotten, but JFM will/would/could confirm you this is true in the broad lines. Just think of an extactic shirak greeted by huge crowds of algerian Youths screaming 'visas!', 'visas!'...

North africa is VERY happy to send us its excess population, and the weight it give those former colonies onto France, through its settlers.

#5 The real BS here is that the French let them practice their religion in prison. There should be no Korans allowed in prison, no prayer meetings and any clerics should be kept in solitary confinement.

Straw in the eye, etc, etc...
- Look at US prisons, and see if there isn't an islam problem there (even with fringe sects like the NOI)

and

- Gitmo. Koran handled with gloves, prayer rugs, halal meals,... all this for actual, islam-motivated terrs. Kinda like giving free copies of "My kampft" to german POW. So I don't think the USA, or any other western country (all are suffering from thre same PC debilating disease, some more se), are in any position to criticize.

Posted by anonymous5089 2008-05-01 13:02|| 2008-05-01 13:02|| Front Page Top

#8 Bet the French miss Guillotine.

Posted by g(r)omgoru 2008-05-01 13:25|| 2008-05-01 13:25|| Front Page Top

#9 - Gitmo. Koran handled with gloves, prayer rugs, halal meals,... all this for actual, islam-motivated terrs. Kinda like giving free copies of "My kampft" to german POW. So I don't think the USA, or any other western country (all are suffering from thre same PC debilating disease, some more se), are in any position to criticize.

I'm not saying we are. I'm just saying we should stop it. All of us.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2008-05-01 14:45|| 2008-05-01 14:45|| Front Page Top

#10 Same thing in the USA but here the majority are Mexicans.

Posted by James Samuel 2008-05-01 15:02|| 2008-05-01 15:02|| Front Page Top

#11 no the bad part is none of them will serve any lenghty sentences as say a pot head would over here

Posted by sinse 2008-05-01 16:33|| 2008-05-01 16:33|| Front Page Top

#12 US Prison Population by race Graph We have a similar problem with over represented populations in US Prisons.

James Samuel you are wrong only 18% of the US prison population is Latino.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-05-01 19:14|| 2008-05-01 19:14|| Front Page Top

#13 Note my graph link is to flakes but it's still true.

Posted by Sock Puppet of Doom 2008-05-01 19:14|| 2008-05-01 19:14|| Front Page Top

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