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2006-05-01 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by ed 2006-05-01 09:17|| || Front Page|| [11127 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I sure hope this flops. Anyway, I'm in my office in downtown Chicago today and I should be able to give a report on the demonstration here.

Posted by Spot">Spot 2006-05-01 09:32|| 2006-05-01 09:32|| Front Page Top

#2 Ok so we refuse the permits to protest, arrest the protestors, hold them for three days to process, and deport the ones that are not legal. Then, charge the ones that are legal with sedition. He, Rodriquez, admits his intent to shut down our cities and creat hardships on America. This is pretty plain that his concern is not America but his own personal agenda.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-01 09:39|| 2006-05-01 09:39|| Front Page Top

#3 "In the first place we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the man's becoming in very fact an American, and nothing but an American...
There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag, and this excludes the red flag, which symbolizes all wars against liberty and civilization, just as much as it excludes any foreign flag of a nation to which we are hostile...We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language...and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."
--Theodore Roosevelt, 1919

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-01 09:40|| 2006-05-01 09:40|| Front Page Top

#4 This former AFSCME member (Local 2960) is going to "celebrate" this day by going shopping, and her sweetie, an immigrant (but a legal one...so Mr Rodriquez could care less about him, I'm sure) is celebrating it by going to work and paying taxes to a country that is dragging it's butt getting him his green card.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-05-01 09:44|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-05-01 09:44|| Front Page Top

#5 DB,
I'm not totally read on to the process but from what I've seen I do think we should rework in the process. I watch a friend trying to get a green card for his Thai wife and it was a nightmare. Since he was military and they worked in embassies, moving every two years, he was constantly starting over in the process and at best it was slow and problematic.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-01 09:56|| 2006-05-01 09:56|| Front Page Top

#6 Not only should illegals be arrested and deported, all of their possessions (money, house, clothes, whatever) here in the US should be seized as they are goods gained during the commission of a crime.

Just start doing that and the rest will self-deport rather quickly.

Posted by Laurence of the Rats">Laurence of the Rats 2006-05-01 10:01|| 2006-05-01 10:01|| Front Page Top

#7 There is no discrimination against immigrants - at least not the LEGAL ones. And thats the whole purpose of these things: to blur the line between criminals (illegal aliens) and citizens-to-be (immigrants), so as to make proper debate impossible and allow the left to demagogue on this.

Funny thing, this "immigration" day doesnt seem to be getting any traction in the Russian community here, nor the Chinese nor Japanese. And its generating hostility from the SE Asia and Indonesians.

But the Christian Africans especially are hostile to this: they hate this stuff - to quote one I know "I came here legally, why do they think they deserve to break the rules when many more like me are trying to get here away from genocide?"

I guess its all Orwell - some are more equal than others in the eyes of the communists and LaRaza and Aztlan activists behind all this.

Expose them for what they are - I hope the bandanas and Che posters are all over their rallys.

Posted by OldSpook 2006-05-01 10:07|| 2006-05-01 10:07|| Front Page Top

#8 Page 2 exposes the commies for this.

Posted by 49 Pan">49 Pan 2006-05-01 10:09|| 2006-05-01 10:09|| Front Page Top

#9 I'm all for it. There was a lot fewer beat up pick-ups slowing traffic this morning.

Posted by DoDo 2006-05-01 10:57|| 2006-05-01 10:57|| Front Page Top

#10 This isn't a 'Immigration march' its a 'Illegal Alien' march. These are not immigrants. These are ILLEGAL aliens - here in violation of federal law.

I too am going shopping this afternoon after work. Funny how all these people seem to have the time to attend these rallies during a workday (both today and the one a few weeks ago).

I'm sure the local politicians here in the Peoples Republic of Seattle will go all out to patronize the illegal alien vote (already having a lock on the dead and imaginary friends vote).

DB - Good luck on your green card. We just had our 'conditions' removed on my wife's GC last year. Its a long slow process.

BTW: Michelle Malkin is reprinting information about the PRO-Enforcement rallies on her Blog. I'm sure the MSM won't mention them.

Posted by CrazyFool 2006-05-01 11:12|| 2006-05-01 11:12|| Front Page Top

#11 49pan, I agree, since me & my sweetie have had our share of screwups with his application (moving in the middle of it really messes things up, I know that from personal experience, too).

However, granting full amnesty/legalization to people who are here illegally from the start can't do anything but make the "system" even worse than it already is.

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OS, you didn't really think the Russians would celebrate May Day, did you? I know one personally who would rather be caught dead.... ;)

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-05-01 11:16|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-05-01 11:16|| Front Page Top

#12 Traffic was easier getting into the city (Chicago) today. We should have these rallies more often.

Posted by Steve White">Steve White 2006-05-01 11:28|| 2006-05-01 11:28|| Front Page Top

#13 If you think about it, businesses of any size that close today are effectively self-identifying for INS.

Thank you, assholes. May your ~~raid~~ visit come soon.

Posted by Jinerong Thaitch3597 2006-05-01 11:29|| 2006-05-01 11:29|| Front Page Top

#14 bet the % of drivers on the road with auto insurance soared today

Posted by Frank G 2006-05-01 12:13|| 2006-05-01 12:13|| Front Page Top

#15 All the Mexican restaurants in the area are closed. A lot of people here at work say they won't go to them any more. it would be interesting to see how much business they do in the next week.

Posted by Deacon Blues">Deacon Blues 2006-05-01 12:31|| 2006-05-01 12:31|| Front Page Top

#16 I'm hoping that all of the companies that break the law by exploiting illegal aliens take a substantial economic hit today. At least for one day the companies that play by the rules will have an advantage. Heres to a huge success!

Posted by DepotGuy 2006-05-01 13:31|| 2006-05-01 13:31|| Front Page Top

#17 Update from Chicago-
Pretty good sized crowd going down Jackson Blvd. There are professional organizers in green t-shirts; lots of kids; very peaceful; no puppets;(

Posted by Spot">Spot 2006-05-01 13:54|| 2006-05-01 13:54|| Front Page Top

#18 No puppets? We've got some here in San Francisco lots of Che placards too. ...funny thing the few Mexican restaurants I checked out were all open. No matter - I'm eating Chinese today.

Posted by Rex Mundi 2006-05-01 14:10|| 2006-05-01 14:10|| Front Page Top

#19 I guarantee no Russians woudl celebrate May Day - especially the ones that came over here from the mid/early 1980's on back - they took real risks doing so.

And there's the difference: The Immigrants wanted Freedom, the Illigeal Aliens want to Freeload.

Posted by Oldspook 2006-05-01 14:22|| 2006-05-01 14:22|| Front Page Top

#20 While Rome expended its gold, resources and energy fighting the Persians, it was the quiet tidal wave of Gothic immigration across the Rhine frontier that did them in. It was all rationalized then too. Not enough resources to handle it all. Manpower shortages. They'll Romanize. Yep. In the end they owned Rome. Something about the traditional Roman citizen had long ago been forgotten and didn't see much difference in who ruled them. It wasn't their government anymore. The ruling elite in Rome didn't give a fig about the plebians and they didn't give a fig about the elites. The elites soon found themselves outsourced by foreigners.

Posted by Omerong Clitch6717 2006-05-01 14:35|| 2006-05-01 14:35|| Front Page Top

#21 Update from Knoxville Tn... No parade, no protesters. Everyone has bills to pay and mouths to feed.

Posted by BrerRabbit 2006-05-01 14:57|| 2006-05-01 14:57|| Front Page Top

#22 The Immigrants wanted Freedom, the Illigeal Aliens want to Freeload.

Um, no. They want to work. Given the chance, they would also prefer to pay taxes.

Posted by Rafael 2006-05-01 15:06|| 2006-05-01 15:06|| Front Page Top

#23 Rafael, once again, it doesn't have anything to do with whether or not they want to work. America is a nation of laws. People who will not obey America's laws are criminals, no matter what their intentions. And CRIMINALS are not welcome here.

I don't have a problem with working out an arrangement to let Mexicans work here and become citizens, but I'll be damned if I ever give a penny to any political entity that rewards the criminals who are here now. They want to come to the states, go back to Mexico and get in line.

Posted by RWV 2006-05-01 15:29|| 2006-05-01 15:29|| Front Page Top

#24 Um, no. They want to work. Given the chance, they would also prefer to pay taxes.

Any bets that people who can't be bothered to obey our immigration laws would be bothered to obey our tax laws?

Personally, I doubt they would.

Posted by Rob Crawford">Rob Crawford 2006-05-01 15:34|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-05-01 15:34|| Front Page Top

#25 They want to work. Given the chance, they would also prefer to pay taxes

Rafael,
I agree that many are willing to work. However, they do things like claim lots of exemptions so that almost nothing is withheld other than FICA. Then they don't bother to file a return, and as a result, pay no taxes. Also, many work off the books, so nothing at all gets withheld, not even FICA.

Note for non-US residents: roughly speaking, in the US, there are 2 types of federal taxes withheld: FICA, which pays for social security and other programs, and is about 7% of gross income, subject to a yearly limit. Then the income tax, which is based on your salary, minus an amount for each of the exemptions you have, such as children. By claiming a large number of dependents, you can effectively have almost nothing withheld for income tax. Of course, doing so is illegal. Not filing an income tax report is also illega. But then, being in the United States without proper paperwork is illegal, too.

Posted by Rambler">Rambler 2006-05-01 15:34|| 2006-05-01 15:34|| Front Page Top

#26 Rafael, if you happen to know any illegals who want to pay taxes, send 'em my way. I've got plenty to share.....

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-05-01 17:52|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-05-01 17:52|| Front Page Top

#27 Al over the USA there are groups of illegal aliens on street corners posing as "day laboreres" they pay no taxes , they take no responsibility.

Also, many work off the books, so nothing at all gets withheld, not even FICA.
True about the exemptions etc.
EVEN SO.. the IRS reports 7 million or so invalid W-2's.
That's a fair day's work that someone needs to do.

Illegals represent 4.6% of the US workforce.
Coincidentally our unemployment rate is also about 4.6%
Please bear in mind that unemployment figures reflect only workers who show up at the unemplyment office, wait in line and are looking. Slackers and disillusioned burn-outs are not counted.

Posted by jim#6 2006-05-01 19:10|| 2006-05-01 19:10|| Front Page Top

#28 Sorry, Mr Rodriquez, but only "hundreds" turned out in Phoenix for rallies and protests at Home Depot. Considering that almost half of the illegals are coming in through Arizona, that's damn pathetic.

Posted by Desert Blondie 2006-05-01 19:16|| http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com]">[http://azjetsetchick.blogspot.com] 2006-05-01 19:16|| Front Page Top

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