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2006-04-21 Science & Technology

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Posted by Ptah 2006-04-21 10:50|| || Front Page|| [11130 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 water vapour is not considered a green house gas.

I hope the rest of the science is better than that.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-21 13:11|| 2006-04-21 13:11|| Front Page Top

#2 not one citation. not one name of who wrote the paper.

junkscience, indeed.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-21 13:13|| 2006-04-21 13:13|| Front Page Top

#3 Defend the Church of the Immaculate Global Warming! Destroy the heretics!

Posted by Iblis">Iblis 2006-04-21 13:22|| 2006-04-21 13:22|| Front Page Top

#4 So mote it be.

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2006-04-21 13:33|| 2006-04-21 13:33|| Front Page Top

#5 Yes, water is a greenhouse gas, some of the time, at least, and its effect is very hard to model because it works both ways (depending on the way cloud cover works).

Posted by Phil 2006-04-21 13:48|| 2006-04-21 13:48|| Front Page Top

#6 "Defend the Church of the Immaculate Global Warming! Destroy the heretics!"

yup, asking for the standard things in a scientific paper is heretic burning.

Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-21 15:26|| 2006-04-21 15:26|| Front Page Top

#7 Thats OK. I demand real facts, peer reviewed and scrutinized, based on the scientific method from the religion of enviormentalism. So far what they have is a total crock of crap.

Posted by SPoD 2006-04-21 16:23|| http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/]">[http://sockpuppetofdoom.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-21 16:23|| Front Page Top

#8 LH, I don't know if you are deliberately misrepresenting or just don't understand what he is saying.

His point is that many/most of those promoting alarmist global warming scenarios, don't even understand how the greenhouse effect works (or how a greenhouse works).

Otherwise, the article doesn't purport to be a scientific paper. Nor could it be published as a scientific paper, since you can't publish a paper covering what is already known and understood (except by the willfully ignorant such as most climate alarmists), or the shonky science behind a movie.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-04-21 18:19|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-21 18:19|| Front Page Top

#9 not one citation. not one name of who wrote the paper.

So I take it the last op-ed you read about Gobal Wamming was chocked full of citations?

Or that Algore's screed-movie will be accompanied by a massive set of documentation?

Dunno who pissed in your Wheaties today, but you're liberal-ness has over-ridden your intelligence.

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-04-21 18:58|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-04-21 18:58|| Front Page Top

#10 The interesting part of the article is that the physics of radiation absorption conclusively proves that the greenhouse on its own can not produce runaway global warming. Rather the reverse is true and the additional warming effect will decrease to zero irrespective of the amount of CO2 in the atmosphere.

To get warming beyond these levels you have to posit somekind of positive feedback that causes a runaway effect.

Were such a mechanism to exist, the earth would have long ago become and stayed a lot than it is or ever has been. Ergo such a mechanism don't exist.

Posted by phil_b">phil_b 2006-04-21 19:13|| http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/]">[http://autonomousoperation.blogspot.com/] 2006-04-21 19:13|| Front Page Top

#11 read the latest Michael Crichton (which has footnoted studies) and debunks your precious.....

Global Warming is a grant-sucking theocracy among the libs - don't buy it. Ask about solar cycles - ask how much the avg temp has risen since 1900 - ask if it EVER went up (or down) more... LH - your knee's jerking a little too much today

Posted by Frank G">Frank G 2006-04-21 19:24|| 2006-04-21 19:24|| Front Page Top

#12 liberalhawk,
Check your facts. Water vapor is not only a greenhouse gas, it is the number one greenhouse gas. Do your own googling and you'll find plenty of scientific proof. Or more to your mentality use wikipedia

Posted by Dr. Robert Stadler 2006-04-21 20:42|| 2006-04-21 20:42|| Front Page Top

#13 Holy shit, I hadn't seen that:

LH: "water vapour is not considered a green house gas."

Are you really this poorly informed?

Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford 2006-04-21 21:01|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/] 2006-04-21 21:01|| Front Page Top

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