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2022-04-18 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia
Dozens of people died in the hospital of Mariupol, Russia claims almost full control of city
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Posted by badanov 2022-04-18 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11128 views ]  Top

#1 Mariupol Moron Brigade, fighting to the last Ukrainian British war tourist

A British ‘mercenary’ captured in Mariupol has been told by the Russians that his Ukrainian commanders wanted him to be killed as he fled a factory hideout - so he would be seen as an anti-Putin hero by the outside world.

There was “not much time to think,” said Pinner.

After this, his words were subtitled in Russian but his original speech was not audible.

According to the subtitles, Pinner said: “It was very dark. We took the injured with us.

“Mortar and artillery shelling began, military aviation worked. Panic began.

“Everyone started running in different directions.

“My commander seems to have disappeared.

“I still don’t know what happened to those who were there with me.”



Posted by Heriberto Panda5789 2022-04-18 07:28||   2022-04-18 07:28|| Front Page Top

#2 Not so Happy Days: 2nd British War Tourist surrenders in Mariupol - 'Yep that's 'I'm! I know those tattoos!' says disconsolate Mum

Aiden Aslin, professional moron / veteran war tourist (Syria, Mariupol), one of about 400 foreign war tourists, surrenders with Ukraine's Nazi Azov Battalion in Mariupol

Posted by Heriberto Panda5789 2022-04-18 07:42||   2022-04-18 07:42|| Front Page Top

#3 Not so Happy Days: 2nd British War Tourist surrenders in Mariupol - 'Yep that's 'I'm! I know those tattoos!' says disconsolate Mum

Used to be Russia offered some battlefield tour packages for Leningrad, Moscow, Kursk, et seq.

I assume those tours were much safer than the ones where you get shot at.
Posted by badanov 2022-04-18 08:07||   2022-04-18 08:07|| Front Page Top

#4 Lib media: "Why couldn't he be the guy who did the last 10 mass shootings here?"
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-04-18 08:09||   2022-04-18 08:09|| Front Page Top

#5 Mariupol is the home base of the neo-Nazi Azov Battalion. The dead Enders in the stell factory are the last few Azov Battalion remaining in Mariupol; the Russians have killed many thousands of Azov already. They will exterminate the remaining vermin in short order.
Posted by Joluque de Medici3197 2022-04-18 11:37||   2022-04-18 11:37|| Front Page Top

#6 *dead-enders in the steel factory
Posted by Joluque de Medici3197 2022-04-18 11:39||   2022-04-18 11:39|| Front Page Top

#7 ^ So, it's a Humanitarian Genocide?
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 12:04||   2022-04-18 12:04|| Front Page Top

#8 "Genocide"
🤡

It's called taking out Nazi trash. Same as the USAF did in Dresden or the Red Army did across Germany in 1945
Posted by Joluque de Medici3197 2022-04-18 12:08||   2022-04-18 12:08|| Front Page Top

#9 /\ #6 & 7 'Exterminating vermin' -- Goebbels would be proud of that turn of phrase.
Posted by magpie 2022-04-18 12:11||   2022-04-18 12:11|| Front Page Top

#10 "Taking out the trash" is a favorite around these parts.

Goebbels writes for Wikipedia?

"One of the most instrumental groups for the recapture of Mariupol was the Azov Battalion, an Ukrainian neonazi volunteer militia.[49] By September 2014 Azov was integrated into the National Guard of Ukraine, and set Mariupol as their headquarters.[50] As one of Vladimir Putin's stated goals for the war is the "denazification" of Ukraine, Mariupol represents an important ideological target for the Russian forces.[51][52]
Posted by Joluque de Medici3197 2022-04-18 12:22||   2022-04-18 12:22|| Front Page Top

#11 Re #8: I believe it was the Brits who bombed Dresden. And the Red Army only took half of Germany. Of course, if Ike had let Patton do what he wanted, the US would have taken more.
Posted by Rambler in Virginia  2022-04-18 12:23||   2022-04-18 12:23|| Front Page Top

#12 The assumption is that Patton could have done what he said. If he'd been allowed and failed, history would have been a lot different.
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-04-18 12:25||   2022-04-18 12:25|| Front Page Top

#13 Imagine Truman as Boosh democratizing the bolsheviks. Who would have been his Paul Bremer?
Posted by M. Murcek 2022-04-18 12:28||   2022-04-18 12:28|| Front Page Top

#14 About 3,500 Azov Battalion vermin have been exterminated. The remaining 500 or so (plus about 590 Ukrainian Marines) are scurrying about, rat-like, in the rathskelleren network of tunnels beneath the AzovStal Steelworks.

Firebombing AzovStal will accomplish three goals at once: cripple Ukraine's steel industry, destroy oligarch Rinat Akhmerov's wealth, and incinerate the last remaining outpost of the Mariupol base of Ukraine's Nazi Azov Battalion.

Posted by Joluque de Medici3197 2022-04-18 12:32||   2022-04-18 12:32|| Front Page Top

#15 #13 Imagine Truman as Boosh democratizing the bolsheviks. Who would have been his Paul Bremer?

Tom Pendergast's brother Mike. Corrupt as sin Kansas City boss Tom had died in January 1945
Posted by Jeremiah Panda5714 2022-04-18 12:40||   2022-04-18 12:40|| Front Page Top

#16 Firebombing AzovStal will accomplish three goals at once: cripple Ukraine's steel industry, destroy oligarch Rinat Akhmerov's wealth, and incinerate the last remaining outpost of the Mariupol base of Ukraine's Nazi Azov Battalion.

More in common with the strategic firebombing of Hamburg in 1943.

True that AzovStal with its Azov "dead-enders" (nice!) is a fat juicy strategic target. Won't be hard to level it.
Posted by Oscar Squank1747 2022-04-18 12:46||   2022-04-18 12:46|| Front Page Top

#17 I believe it was the Brits who bombed Dresden.

We know it was not the Germans. They were too busy bombing Pearl Harbor.
Posted by SteveS 2022-04-18 12:49||   2022-04-18 12:49|| Front Page Top

#18 #13 Imagine Truman as Boosh democratizing the bolsheviks. Who would have been his Paul Bremer?

The Biden Political Machine's Paul Bremer for the $1 trillion Ukraine Reconstruction con will be James Biden.

Jimmy did a heckuva job with the loot that Biden steered his way in the Iraq Reconstruction con
Posted by Spoque Sproing6484 2022-04-18 13:02||   2022-04-18 13:02|| Front Page Top

#19 Leadership Team For "Build Back Better - East," a $1.5 trillion joint initiative of the Biden Administration, the EU, the EBRD, and the World Bank, with embezzlement funds management conducted by George Soros, the Clinton Foundation and Bill Browder:

Jimmy Biden - will supervise the $50 billion reconstruction of Ukraine's iron ore and steel industries

Hunter Biden - will spearhead natural gas exploration efforts with a focus on prospecting in various Odessa bars and nightclubs

Dr Jill Biden - will head up a new $10 billion Mental Health Initiative patterned on Charlene McCray's stunningly successful initiative in Bill DeBlaio's NY City

Ashley Biden - Influencer At Large helping wayward Ukrainian girls to achieve wellness, attain sobriety and adopt positive body images
Posted by Spoque Sproing6484 2022-04-18 13:16||   2022-04-18 13:16|| Front Page Top

#20 Dozens of people died in the hospital of Mariupol

Sounds like my local hospital.
Snark O'The Day
Posted by Skidmark 2022-04-18 13:21||   2022-04-18 13:21|| Front Page Top

#21  Sounds like my local hospital.

Or Bugs Bunny's stay at the experimental lab of the Paul Revere Foundation, whose slogan is "Hardly a man is now alive"
Posted by Thoth the Anonymous7907 2022-04-18 13:43||   2022-04-18 13:43|| Front Page Top

#22 About 3,500 Azov Battalion vermin have been exterminated. The remaining 500 or so (plus about 590 Ukrainian Marines) are scurrying about, rat-like, in the rathskelleren network of tunnels beneath the AzovStal Steelworks.

Take a page out of the IDF playbook and collapse the tunnel exits. The Russians must have a good map of the AzovStal tunnel network.

Wouldn't take more than an hour or two of bombing to seal the rats inside their crypt.
Posted by Thoth the Anonymous7907 2022-04-18 13:50||   2022-04-18 13:50|| Front Page Top

#23 Wouldn't incineration be more secure? Remember those Haianese WWII holdouts in the south Pacific islands
Posted by Fester Craving9884 2022-04-18 14:02||   2022-04-18 14:02|| Front Page Top

#24 ^ Japanese holdouts
Posted by Fester Craving9884 2022-04-18 14:03||   2022-04-18 14:03|| Front Page Top

#25  The Russians must have a good map of the AzovStal tunnel network.

What makes you think they have the technology? And if they do, that they can get it to the right place In a timely manner?
Posted by trailing wife 2022-04-18 16:37||   2022-04-18 16:37|| Front Page Top

#26 ^ They've learned a ton about advanced urban warfare techniques in Syria. MITRE concluded in 2020:

"The fighting in Syria has allowed Russia to test
a range of new weapons and new concepts and has trained a number of leaders in contemporary warfare outside its borders, making it much different than the earlier, more localized fight in Chechnya. New methods of employing Spetsnaz forces and new ways of utilizing private military companies were explored.

"The Syrian experience has refocused Russia’s military on urban warfare and the difficulty of extracting enemy fighters from buildings while trying simultaneously not to harm the local population and to find humanitarian corridors for their extraction from the combat zone.

Russia’s use of robotics and unmanned vehicles in urban operations, learning ways to use radio-electronic equipment or information technologies to disorganize enemy signals, and defending bases from UAV attacks were other lessons learned.

"Finally, the Russian military is in the process of incorporating these lessons learned through conferences, round tables, and new manuals. Russia’s military will undoubtedly be a stronger adversary after their Syrian experience than before it."

- from " RUSSIAN LESSONS LEARNED IN SYRIA: AN ASSESSMENT" by Timothy Thomas, MITRE Center for Technology and National Security, June 2020
Posted by Jusotch Brown4122 2022-04-18 16:52||   2022-04-18 16:52|| Front Page Top

#27 The Nazi Azov Battalion is finished. All over but the shouting, thank God
Posted by Oscar Squank1747 2022-04-18 16:55||   2022-04-18 16:55|| Front Page Top

#28 Same as the USAF did in Dresden or the Red Army did across Germany in 1945

Kind of like Barack Obama bombing at The Apollo, except that happened.
Posted by swksvolFF 2022-04-18 17:20||   2022-04-18 17:20|| Front Page Top

#29 There's great admiration for Israel in Russia. Netanyahu and Putin developed a strong relationship. Israel is seen as an honest broker. Netanyahu to Putin in 2018:

“Mr. President, we are wholeheartedly grateful to you for your personal friendship, for your position and for the position of Russia, which shares these values with Israel,” Netanyahu told Putin in response. “We would like to express our gratitude to the Russian Defense Ministry and the Russian army. We will never forget their contribution, which will go down in history."

Regarding tunnels: The IDF and the Russian military have been coordinating activities and sharing information for years. Including urban warfare and anti-tunnel operational info, lessons learned, tactics.
IDF Chief of Staff Tours Hezbollah Tunnels; Will Brief Russian Military On Findings
Posted by Jusotch Brown4122 2022-04-18 17:23||   2022-04-18 17:23|| Front Page Top

#30 Russia has learned an enormous amount from both the Syrian war and the Russo-Ukrainian War. This experience will spur reform and modernization of the Russian Army, clear out the hacks and incompetents in the senior officer ranks, and enable promotion of a new class of young, tough, battle-tested junior officers.

Same kind of reform and strengthening that happened in the US military after the Vietnam War debacle. Also happened in China with the reform of the PLA after the Sino-Vietnamese War in 1979.
Posted by Herman Pelosi2514 2022-04-18 17:31||   2022-04-18 17:31|| Front Page Top

#31 #26 "Russia’s military will undoubtedly be a stronger adversary after their Syrian experience than before it."

Exactly. Same is true of the current war. Russia’s military will undoubtedly be a stronger adversary after their Ukrainian experience than before it.
Posted by Herman Pelosi2514 2022-04-18 17:34||   2022-04-18 17:34|| Front Page Top

#32 All over but the shouting

Bunker busters will bring this to a conclusion

Russians Drop Bunker-Busters on Holdout Mariupol Steel Plant
Published 27 mins ago on April 18, 2022
By Associated Press
Posted by Theager Slorong1142 2022-04-18 18:27||   2022-04-18 18:27|| Front Page Top

#33  #20 Dozens of people died in the hospital of Mariupol
Sounds like my local hospital.

Statistically speaking, it's rather odd how many people die in hospitals compared to any randomly chosen building in the city. It's like they are all cursed or built over Indian burial grounds or something.
Posted by SteveS 2022-04-18 18:30||   2022-04-18 18:30|| Front Page Top

#34 I love the anon trolls PR campaign
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 20:29||   2022-04-18 20:29|| Front Page Top

#35 The Ukes will be so grateful the attrition to Putin's invading Commie Troops will make Afghanistan seem like a walk in the park
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 20:31||   2022-04-18 20:31|| Front Page Top

#36 Putin loves the Juice. Right.
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 20:34||   2022-04-18 20:34|| Front Page Top

#37 #30 Russia has learned an enormous amount from both the Syrian war and the Russo-Ukrainian War. This experience will spur reform and modernization of the Russian Army, clear out the hacks and incompetents in the senior officer ranks, and enable promotion of a new class of young, tough, battle-tested junior officers.

Orrrrr..as is usual in a Communist dictatorship, they'll execute the ones who were bad along with the ones who were good but were inadequately supplied, like our trolls
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 20:39||   2022-04-18 20:39|| Front Page Top

#38 The resident moron's getting agitated. Yes, Putin is the most pro-Israel leader Russia's ever had. Also the leader who has done more than any in Russian history to overcome tgat nation's traditional suspicions of and hostility toward its Jewish citizens. Ties between Israel and Russia are closer under Putin even than the historic ties between Russia and the Arabs. Putin has gone out of his way to encourage religious tolerance in Russia and has been praised repeatedly by Israeli and American Jewish leaders for his consistent efforts over two decades inthis regard.
Posted by Thavigum Lumplump4242 2022-04-18 21:01||   2022-04-18 21:01|| Front Page Top

#39 Right
Posted by Frank G 2022-04-18 21:46||   2022-04-18 21:46|| Front Page Top

#40 Quite
Posted by Thavigum Lumplump4242 2022-04-18 21:58||   2022-04-18 21:58|| Front Page Top

#41  Yes, Putin is the most pro-Israel leader Russia's ever had.

Oh, it’s true, although there was a brief period when Socialist USSR was happy to support brand new, labour socialist Israel to annoy America, allowing Czechoslovakia to arm the new country. Nowadays, like many Western nationalists, President Putin admires Israel’s willingness to fight for its existence as its people’s nation state against both the Muslim world and Progressive ire. And of course there’s Israel’s technological cleverness — everybody wants a piece of that — and so many of Israel’s new technologists are former Soviet Jews he hopes have sentimental ties that will benefit the Ould Sod.

Poor Mother Russia finds herself trying to balance as long as possible between her traditional regional client, Syria; her partner in confounding America, Iran; and Israel. But RealPolitik suggests that in the end it won’t be Israel Russia stands with, no matter President Putin’s fellow feeling.
Posted by trailing wife 2022-04-18 22:57||   2022-04-18 22:57|| Front Page Top

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