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2005-04-16 Home Front: Politix

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Posted by .com 2005-04-16 9:57:17 AM|| || Front Page|| [11136 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 I subscribe

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-16 10:25:22 AM|| 2005-04-16 10:25:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 It took the repubs a decade to really rebuild ... but the dems have been studying how it was done. W/ the Net and a lot of $$ it won't take nearly as long.

Posted by anon 2005-04-16 10:32:46 AM|| 2005-04-16 10:32:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 Frank - Lol! I read the NRO, too - not subscribed - but not everyone there is rational at all times. To charactrize the Soros / 527 / MoveOn engine as "powerful" and "creative" is putting the best light on it - a stretch, IMHO. There are some who are very good at disinformation, such as AARP's TV commercials against Soc Sec change, but people will only buy what feels right to them - and this confabulation of Moonbats seem to miss the point that they need to stop preaching to their base and sell their insanity to flyover America. As long as they keep missing the point, I won't credit them with Dr Evil powers. Thus the last comment where I was making fun of Yorks' conclusion.

Posted by .com 2005-04-16 10:48:22 AM|| 2005-04-16 10:48:22 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 The democrats still haven't hit rock bottom. They haven't torn down the old machine before trying to replace it with a new machine--a recipe for failure. I might add that the AuH20 machine did the same thing, becoming eccentric laughinstocks terribly out of touch with the rest of society. So what will happen next? The pattern will be that power will first migrate back to those still in office. The republicans will still be effectively targetting their most powerful and least cooperative, giving some small support and largesse to those willing to play ball. (Ex: right now, even Robert Byrd is sweating). Eventually, democrat power will be concentrated among their centrists, with the radicals marginalized. Then they will form a pragmatic coalition with the much larger group of republican "reasonables", if not centrists, to marginalize the republican extreme, too.

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-04-16 10:59:01 AM|| 2005-04-16 10:59:01 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Um, the title was taken, as a joke, from some of the left's own pronouncements.

And let's be honest, they ARE powerful and creative. They've got control of the MSM, and despite the best efforts of reasonable people, the MSM is the info source for most of the country. They've organized in a way that they'll be able to poor limitless amounts of cash against Republicans, and if you think they're just going to use that in commercials, think again.

Creativity doesn't just involve how they get their message out: the 2006 and 2008 campaigns are going to be UGLY. I wouldn't be shocked if they're not violent, given some of the events in 2004. We can also expect a level of corruption and fraud that makes Chicago politics seem saintly.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-04-16 11:00:44 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-04-16 11:00:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#6 :-) I don't credit them will all-powerful evil, but they have powerful friends in the MSM that multiplies their failed messages. If the Hildabeast is allowed to fake her way as a moderate, she will be a major force in '06 (her minions) and '08 (for herself). York usually pretty much has his feet on the ground. I despise Derbyshire though.... I enjoy the fact that the moonbats think they only need to communicate their fever better so the populace will admit they are correct. Keep chugging the kool-aid and spending your money on trying to keep Air America on the air in more than 5 cities, "progressives"...heh heh

My bigger fear is that as they sink into desperation over electoral failure, they will resort to underground violence like good little marxists

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-16 11:02:17 AM|| 2005-04-16 11:02:17 AM|| Front Page Top

#7 Underground violence? As opposed to the open violence involved in the assaults on Republican campaign headquarters last year?

The open violence already started; next election it's going to be more widespread.

Posted by Robert Crawford 2005-04-16 11:05:44 AM|| [http://www.kloognome.com/] 2005-04-16 11:05:44 AM|| Front Page Top

#8 and no - I never got that sort of service from NR :-)

not even a reach around

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-16 11:05:52 AM|| 2005-04-16 11:05:52 AM|| Front Page Top

#9 RC - minds thinking alike - I should've said violence by DU et al...they'll try to keep plausible deniability for the "visible leadership" but I agree it will get ugly unless crushed. $10,000 fines for damaging cars with GOP stickers, etc....

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-16 11:11:39 AM|| 2005-04-16 11:11:39 AM|| Front Page Top

#10 I completely missed including the MS in the equation. Duh. That meme replicator does, indeed, leverage their spending and put the best light on the moonbattery.

I believe we're in for an ugly ride precisely because they haven't grasped the fact that the majority of Americans aren't insane socialists. I am tickled to see them spend their money reinforcing, distilling, the "anger" - instead of spending wisely to disinform the rational Americans. But, as you guys point out - there's violence along that road - and I fully expect much more to come.

Posted by .com 2005-04-16 11:14:59 AM|| 2005-04-16 11:14:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#11 I listened to a York interview on his new book. I came away thinking that he might be onto something here. To the Democrats EVERYTHING is a battle or left versus right. After screaming their mantra a few thousands times someone is going to them after a period of time, if for no other reason than to get them to shut up. This worked well in the 1960s for the anti-war, socialists, and communists movements that basically hijacked the Democratic Party and made the Republicans the villains in the Vietnam conflict. Even though Kennedy sent in the troops and Johnson escalated the conflict, neither is blamed for that debacle. Today the WOT is made out to be a Republican issue even though a string of attacks and appeasement cover the length of Clintonsâ two terms in office. IMHO the Republicans need to stop trying to appease the Democrats and shove the Republican agenda down their throats. Yes they will cry, whine, throw fits, and call us Nazis but they are doing that now. The results are what we looking for not the process. Social Security is a joke, illegal immigration needs to be stopped, Judges that donât invent rights need to be confirmed, and the Patriot Act needs to be made a permanent law. If they (Republicans) waffle on issues that are core to the party the Dems will use it against us the next election, and they will be portrayed as âmainstreamâ by the press too.

Posted by Cyber Sarge 2005-04-16 2:28:24 PM|| 2005-04-16 2:28:24 PM|| Front Page Top

#12 The Vast Left Wing Conspiracy does not have to be 'powerful and creative' with wiennies like Frist and hypocrites like McCain. Republicans will continue to be ineffective "Read My Lips" until they learn to fight to win. As Captain Ed says, "Not one dime."

Posted by SR-71 2005-04-16 2:37:22 PM|| 2005-04-16 2:37:22 PM|| Front Page Top

#13 Pride goeth before he fall.

Folks, they can slather money on blogs and other forms of communication all they want, but they can only do as much as the right can. The fact is is that the right is much better at communicating ideas because there is simply no agenda behind it other than freedom.

The left have a problem, and it is one they have always had and, one which will eventually destroy them: They can't come up with anything better than to hate and that is the basis for whatever mantra they can repeat via the MSM. After they finish doing that, they have nothing to offer.

Now, all of the foregoing does not mean those who do believe in freedom as a universal as well as a national value should sit back and let the left defeat themselves. It is better to help the left along with their defeat and it is much better to counter them with this one single eand simple counter: That hatred is all they have going for them. This basic value, that republicans believe in freedom and the left can only counter that with their hatred and their agenda as wellas the expression those concepts of it will bring the left down faster than Air America radio.

Posted by badanov 2005-04-16 2:38:33 PM|| [http://www.rkka.org] 2005-04-16 2:38:33 PM|| Front Page Top

#14 Read this whole series of articles then tell me these evil bastards give a shit about democracy, our Republic or our political process.

Sorros funded the whole campaing finance reform movement. He is trying to subvert our Republic. This isn't tinfoil hat stuff. This is a clear and present danger to anyone who cares to look. Hillary is in on it.

Posted by Sock Puppet 0â Doom 2005-04-16 3:34:42 PM|| [http://www.slhess.com] 2005-04-16 3:34:42 PM|| Front Page Top

#15 They never learn.

Note that this mighty coalition is founded on the same assumption that has underpinned leftist power-seeking for 50 years: the absolute power and loyalty of the institutional media culture. Air America, Michael Moore, ad nauseum, are professionally-oriented components of that culture. They are in decline, and the leftist power-seekers are inherently incapable of adapting to this reality.

As documented by the renegade leftist Thomas Frank in The Conquest of Cool, the present-day "Left" is entirely a creature of the institutional media culture.
That culture will not adapt because such an adjustment would represent the failure of their entire enterprise.

I predict that they will fall farther and faster than most current observers can imagine.

2004 was D-Day for the defenders of "Fortress Media", 2008 will be Armageddon.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-04-16 3:48:56 PM|| 2005-04-16 3:48:56 PM|| Front Page Top

#16 The fact is that the VLWC lost. And in the process the red state folks got a good look at John "I served in Vietnam" Kerry, Tuh-ray-zuh, "Screaming Howard" Dean... They had already seen enough of Ted Kennedy, Bubba Clinton, and Al Bore. Hillary will have to get a divorce and completely change her circle of friends just to score a close second.

Posted by Tom 2005-04-16 8:36:07 PM|| 2005-04-16 8:36:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#17 SSHHhhhhhhhhh, no Democrats, Lefties, Socies, or Commies anymore, only "Right-wing/leaning" Regulators and Protectionists for Global Empire, as honest injun as America = Russia-China but not =/superior to Mackinder's World Island, aka Comunist Asia, ergo America must copy the failed and imploded USSR, not the USSR copy successful hyperpower America!? Iff this was the new BATTLESTAR GALACTICA show, Russia-China would be the sexy CYLON babes, wiping out the Colonial Battlestar fleet thru internal systems integration and treason combined with external, PC selective militarized attacks!? GO TALK TO QUEEN BORTE/BORTAI, a'says GENGHIS KHAN - oops, sorry, meant HAIL HILLARY!

Posted by josephmendiola 2005-04-16 8:37:31 PM|| [http://n/a] 2005-04-16 8:37:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#18 Dammit Joe! I'm start to get the flow!

Posted by Shipman 2005-04-16 8:40:21 PM|| 2005-04-16 8:40:21 PM|| Front Page Top

#19 Ima worried bout that myself

Posted by Tom 2005-04-16 9:07:15 PM|| 2005-04-16 9:07:15 PM|| Front Page Top

#20 The archetype lefty intellectual is Canadian-born Berkeley-educated economist John Kenneth Galbraith (1908- ). Galbraith has been revered in media circles since the 1940s and is regarded today as a living god by the media/academic/left-activist cultural complex.
Unfortunately, almost no living person (and certainly none of such influence and power) has been so wrong, so often, and for so long.

The notoriously pompous Galbraith's career of error began during World War 2, when, as a government economic advisor, he cited the delivery of certain new German warplanes without propellors as evidence of industrial chaos in the Third Reich.
Alas, the airplanes didn't have propellors because they were JETS, Me-262s to be precise.

By the 1960s, Galbraith was official shaman of the Kennedy brain-trust, second only to Robert McNamara in creating the national calamity known as Camelot.
As part of his effort to reach out to the newly named "third world" JFK rewarded his arch-druid by appointing him Ambassador to India. There, Galbraith's arrogance, naivete, and ignorance almost single-handedly drove Nehru into the arms of the Soviet Union.

During the Vietnam war, Galbraith becamse a major figure in the peace movement, a leading authority for media naysayers and seditionists. He was thereby instrumental in the establishment of Stalinist rule in Vietnam.

During the 1980s, Galbraith was tricked into providing an endosement for Tom Gervasi's Arsenal of Democracy, an alleged expose of the US arms industry that probably contains more provable errors of fact than any book since The Adventures of Baron Munchhausen, and whose claims and other fantasies are now known to have been dictated by the Kremlin.

Most recently, right after 9-11, Galbraith came out against military action in Afghanistan. Citing the unfortunate experience of the Soviets (whom he always regarded as the military superiors of the US) Galbraith declared that American soldiers would be as "beduddled in Afghanistan as they were in Vietnam." In a sense, the ancient court-jester of the left was right this time: American soldiers in Vietnam were nothing like so befuddled as their leaders.

The fossilized pinko prattles on to this day. At least he has an excuse, since he is now 96 years old, but he was no more rational 50 years ago.

With any luck he will live to see the final and definitive collapse of the evil cultural system he did so much to create.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-04-16 11:13:39 PM|| 2005-04-16 11:13:39 PM|| Front Page Top

#21 Well, Tom, I would be a lot more sanguine if they had lost in a McGovern or Mondale style blowout, rather than coming within a few percentage points. Thank God we don't have a proportional representation parliamentary system, so Germany 1933 (moderates giving power to an extremist becuase "we can control him") is not possible here.

Posted by Jackal 2005-04-16 11:30:23 PM|| [http://home.earthlink.net/~sleepyjackal/index.html] 2005-04-16 11:30:23 PM|| Front Page Top

#22 "beduddled"?
Hmmm, sounds like something from porn site.

Posted by Atomic Conspiracy 2005-04-16 11:46:36 PM|| 2005-04-16 11:46:36 PM|| Front Page Top

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