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2020-04-15 China-Japan-Koreas

The Long Hard Road to Decoupling from China

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Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-15 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11131 views ] Top
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#1 What is it our Chinese friends like to say? "A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step." So start stepping.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 00:32|| 2020-04-15 00:32|| Front Page Top

#2 F--- this language of "reckoning." We don't need to calculate our consider.

We know what needs to be done. Get our wires out of the Chinese trough. Bring it home. Get going-- now.

Giddyup.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 00:34|| 2020-04-15 00:34|| Front Page Top

#3 * or consider
* get our elites out of the trough

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 00:35|| 2020-04-15 00:35|| Front Page Top

#4 Closing statement/sentence:

We are in a long twilight competition with the Chinese communist regime, a struggle we cannot escape, whether we like it or not. Now is the time to wake up, develop a new strategy for victory, and to move forward.

Herein lies the "struggle" or better yet, the 'Made in China' betrayal:

Target Corp - 108.38 USD +3.70 (3.53%)
Home Depot - 207.17 USD +8.38 (4.22%)
Loews - 37.42 USD 0.00 (0.00%)
Best Buy - 69.85 USD +1.46 (2.13%)
Walmart - 129.00 USD +3.70 (2.95%)

To name just a few. Massive 'big pharma' and AGRI firms not mentioned. Will anything change? Very unlikely. We'll all be friends again soon, you'll see.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-15 01:23|| 2020-04-15 01:23|| Front Page Top

#5 While you have internal inter-american tariffs such as income and sales taxes higher than inter-country taxes the government will favour the export of jobs.

Posted by Bright Pebbles 2020-04-15 06:22|| 2020-04-15 06:22|| Front Page Top

#6 We need to decouple from China. The globalists like the allure of cheap labor but with today's manufacturing methods and automation, cheap labor tends to be largely a myth. There is no reason that we can't manufacture what we need in this country. It is like becoming energy independent, we can become manufacturing and agriculturally independent as well.

Posted by JohnQC 2020-04-15 10:29|| 2020-04-15 10:29|| Front Page Top

#7 Lex comment from yesterday:

China cannot seriously threaten us. We have brought this scourge upon ourselves. It is OUR doing.

No one forced us to make our pharmaceutical supply chain >80% dependent on China.

No one forced us to outsource most of our non-pharmaceutical manufacturing supply chain to China.

No one forced us to make our flagship public universities' revenues hence solvency dependent on thousands of extremely well-connected and wealthy, free-spending spoiled ignorant CCP spawn.

No one forced us to admit thousands of Chinese spies into our research land and high-tech corporations.

We did all this to ourselves. Because we are ruled by f---ing morons.

Posted by Besoeker 2020-04-15 10:37|| 2020-04-15 10:37|| Front Page Top

#8 /\ Amazing how Diane Feinstein keeps popping up in my mind when I read these China anecdotes.

Posted by Clem 2020-04-15 10:43|| 2020-04-15 10:43|| Front Page Top

#9 Not everything in those big box stores is from China. I went to Home Depot when I wanted a caliper and found two different brands. One was Made in China, the other was Made in India. You can guess which one I bought. Too bad nobody makes them in USA anymore.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-15 12:23|| 2020-04-15 12:23|| Front Page Top

#10 #7 We elected officials who sold us out for their own self-enrichment. Some making the decisions were not even elected. So no, I don't agree that, we the people, did it to ourselves.

Posted by JohnQC 2020-04-15 13:15|| 2020-04-15 13:15|| Front Page Top

#11 I voted for George Bush but what choice did I have? It was him or Al Gore and then it was him or John Kerry. I could have voted for Jeb Bush in 2016 but that was when Trump started talking about China so I was delighted when Jeb got his butt beaten. But I worry about 2024.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-15 13:34|| 2020-04-15 13:34|| Front Page Top

#12 What choice did I have?

Agreed.

The entire US establishment was down with this Mad policy.

From Nixon and Kissinger to Clinton and Obama;
from the House of Bush to the investment houses of Blackstone and Goldman and Morgan Stanley and the rest;
from Brookings to Heritage and from the American Prospect on the left to the American Enterprise Institute on the right;
from Robert Reich and Paul Krugman to Greenspan and Kudlow and Mankiw and Hubbard and David P. "Spengler" Goldman;
from Pelosi and Feinstein to Romney and Graham;
from Harvard-Kennedy to Stanford-Hoover:
EVERYONE except a few lonely voices said that tightly coupling America's prosperity and economic fortunes to a hostile, rising China was indisputably a good thing for this country.

The only people I can think of who suggested, and even then only indirectly, that this was risky were the realpolitiker political scientists Sam Huntington and John Mearsheimer.

Both men were castigated by polite opinion, the former as a rayciss and the latter as a Machiavellian meanie.

Our elite culture is sick. Decadent.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 14:58|| 2020-04-15 14:58|| Front Page Top

#13 @lex not “reckoning” as in doing sums. Reckoning as in walking down to the OK Corral.

Posted by KBK 2020-04-15 15:19|| 2020-04-15 15:19|| Front Page Top

#14 Early in 2016 I resolved that if the two major parties nominated Jeb and Hillary, I would vote for a third party candidate, any third party candidate. It would have been a protest vote. It would have been my only recourse because I could not see a dime's worth of difference between Jeb and Hillary. But Trump is an anomaly and we cannot count on another candidate like him in 2024. He needs to strike now, hard and fast, to keep this country from being taken over by the CCP. The whores who got us into this mess lack the wisdom, integrity and fortitude to keep it from happening. They would be mere puppets for the likes of Xi Jinping.

Posted by Abu Uluque 2020-04-15 15:28|| 2020-04-15 15:28|| Front Page Top

#15 Agreed KBK.
Giddyup.

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 15:31|| 2020-04-15 15:31|| Front Page Top

#16 Here's a bit of clarity from uber-realist Mearsheimer in 2017:

Posted by Lex 2020-04-15 15:32|| 2020-04-15 15:32|| Front Page Top

#17 re: #14 I am in full agreement.

I doubt that DJT can pull it off, he's just one against the entrenched and that's a real big ask.

Ever since Zero was in charge I've been expecting the move from one box to the next and I'm not seeing anything to upset the progression. Once Trump is gone we'll have one chance left with the ballot box.

Then come 2025 we may be down to the last box.

Posted by AlanC 2020-04-15 16:50|| 2020-04-15 16:50|| Front Page Top

#18 #10 #7. One thing I would add to what was said is that most likely many of the people whom ended up in office, ended up there as the result of rigged elections and so we had little to say about this at the time. The MSM is owned by a handful of corporations and we seldom get the truth from them about candidates they are pushing or those whom they are opposing. I tend to think the election rigging has been done primarily by the Dems in the last few election cycles.

I will be more optimistic about the 2016 election when I see the "real" criminals in the last election prosecuted for their crimes no matter who they are. The rule of law must be established in this country or we don't have a country. This is as important as controlling our borders and our sovereignty.

Posted by JohnQC 2020-04-15 23:36|| 2020-04-15 23:36|| Front Page Top

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