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2005-04-10 International-UN-NGOs

Vatican 'will abandon Taiwan to win China's Catholics'

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Posted by Bulldog 2005-04-10 4:05:46 AM|| || Front Page|| [11133 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 Just hours after the Pope died last week...

Given his history, I can't imagine Karol Wojtyla sucking up to the ChiComs like this. Such a modern triumph of Marketing over Morality! Poor old John Paul must be spinning in his grave already.

Posted by SteveS 2005-04-10 9:05:59 AM|| 2005-04-10 9:05:59 AM|| Front Page Top

#2 Time to focus on Phase II: China's getting more aggressive by the week, and in our own backyard as well as theirs. 100,000 Chinese advisers now in Cuba. Creating strategic relations with Chavez. Ramping up trade across latin America.

How long before we see an Al Qaeda-Chavez-China united front?

Posted by thibaud (aka lex) 2005-04-10 9:32:46 AM|| 2005-04-10 9:32:46 AM|| Front Page Top

#3 The new Axis Powers?

Posted by Anonymoose 2005-04-10 9:41:40 AM|| 2005-04-10 9:41:40 AM|| Front Page Top

#4 As if Diplomatic recognition will allow the Catholics in China free to worship? I call bullshit

Posted by Frank G 2005-04-10 10:58:35 AM|| 2005-04-10 10:58:35 AM|| Front Page Top

#5 Right On Frank G! The "Chicoms" will accept the Taiwan 'Divorce of the Church', and then turn right around to later condemn The Vatican for meddling in it's internal affairs. I guess the Church is already eyeing the moment when it will have to pull it's progress out of Hong Kong!!

Posted by smn 2005-04-10 1:08:13 PM|| 2005-04-10 1:08:13 PM|| Front Page Top

#6 Doubt it, but I will say this - the Church and its next Pope is gonna need the international skills and repertoire of JP2 since the WOT is about KIND of GLOBAL GOVT, KIND OF EMPIRE, and KIND OF GLOBAL SOCIALISM/NWO, etc.... -ism's in general, where either America rules or the Commies ["regulators/empiricists"]do. IOW, an independent Vatican and God-State, etc. vs, Party/State-controlled, Secular-centric, minimalist "Churches" and other alleged "religious" orgs., ON A GLOBAL ORDER, NO LONGER REGIONAL OR EVEN TRANSNATIONAL!? ONCE THE VATICAN EST KAPUT, WORLD RELIGION OF ANY FAITH IS NEXT ON THE LEFTIST CHOPPING BLOCK - and now you know, boyz and girls, what NOSTRADAMUS meant when he described, "The HIDEOUS BEAST seen near Orgon", aka SATAN/LUCIFER [OMNI-GODZILLA-incarnate] rampaging across the world! 9-11 and the Commie Clintons is asmuch a Divine event, as it is human-centric treason and conspiracy, unleashing forces they only think they planned, and more importantly, they only think they control!!!

Posted by JosephMendiola 2005-04-10 7:04:47 PM|| [http://n/a] 2005-04-10 7:04:47 PM|| Front Page Top

#7 Joseph, I think you missed your medications this evening.

Posted by Omeamp Phealing9643 2005-04-10 9:08:07 PM|| 2005-04-10 9:08:07 PM|| Front Page Top

#8 The Vatican kissing up to the Chicoms and abandoning Taiwan will be another step in its losing of its moral authority. If they do this they will lose both the PRC and Taiwan.

Posted by Alaska Paul 2005-04-10 9:41:31 PM|| 2005-04-10 9:41:31 PM|| Front Page Top

#9 This talk about abandoning Taiwan is jsut that: talk.

Its about as relevant as most of the trash you are reading from the MSM regarding how the Church needs a "liberal" Pope.

Basically, Soldano, a vatican insider, may have made some approaches, and the press got hold of it and is running with it. Problem for them is that Soldano, Et Al are going to be replaced when the new Pope is seated.

The ONLY position that is acceptable is that the Catholic Church be given free and full exercise wherever it is to preach the truth, evangelize the Gospel, and minister to the faithful.

If anything, the closest the Holy See will do is probably adopt the US position: Recognize Mainland China, but refuse to sever relationship with the Church (and government) in Taiwan.

The problem with mainland China is that they have been imprisoning and killing Catholics who refuse to swear fealty to the Government, and put their obedience to the Church secondary to obedience to the Chinese state.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| Front Page Top

#10 This talk about abandoning Taiwan is jsut that: talk.

Its about as relevant as most of the trash you are reading from the MSM regarding how the Church needs a "liberal" Pope.

Basically, Soldano, a vatican insider, may have made some approaches, and the press got hold of it and is running with it. Problem for them is that Soldano, Et Al are going to be replaced when the new Pope is seated.

The ONLY position that is acceptable is that the Catholic Church be given free and full exercise wherever it is to preach the truth, evangelize the Gospel, and minister to the faithful.

If anything, the closest the Holy See will do is probably adopt the US position: Recognize Mainland China, but refuse to sever relationship with the Church (and government) in Taiwan.

The problem with mainland China is that they have been imprisoning and killing Catholics who refuse to swear fealty to the Government, and put their obedience to the Church secondary to obedience to the Chinese state.

Posted by OldSpook 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| Front Page Top

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Posted by OldSpook 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| 2005-04-10 10:40:52 PM|| Front Page Top