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2022-04-07 Caucasus/Russia/Central Asia

Why Putin is Turning Russia into a Chinese Client State, and How to Stop It

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Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-04-07 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11124 views ] Top
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#1 All I see in this is a propaganda piece. China is kept at arms length. Putin knows not to trust China. Only Russian Elites retain patriotism is way off the mark. How patriot are our elites?. I don't see that at all these days.

Posted by Dale 2022-04-07 04:03|| 2022-04-07 04:03|| Front Page Top

Posted by Greng Black3494 2022-04-07 09:44|| 2022-04-07 09:44|| Front Page Top

#3 #1 All I see in this is a propaganda piece. China is kept at arms length. Putin knows not to trust China. Only Russian Elites retain patriotism is way off the mark. How patriot are our elites?. I don't see that at all these days.
Posted by: Dale 2022-04-07 04:03

Dale,

Let me respectfully disagree with you. Putin would be far from the first despot to think he could save his own hide by inviting in somebody to help him.

The Chinese know how to play a long game, and they have incredible amounts of money to play it with, a good chunk of which we give them. When the truth about the Special Operation finally sinks into the Russians as their economy crashes around their ears, Putin's going to need - to paraphrase an old saying - money, guns, and goons. The Chinese have all three, and I firmly believe Putin's capable of taking the bait.

I hope I'm wrong; I hope he slips in the shower and falls on several 9mm rounds. But I fear he will try every trick in the book so long as he can keep that corner office in the Spassky Tower.

Mike

Posted by Mike Kozlowski 2022-04-07 10:11|| 2022-04-07 10:11|| Front Page Top

#4 The only alternative to end the war is to remove Putin and his inner circle from power.

Dream on, 🤡

Posted by Thor White2936 2022-04-07 10:41|| 2022-04-07 10:41|| Front Page Top

#5 ..it appears some of his inner circle is being removed.

Posted by Procopius2k 2022-04-07 13:26|| 2022-04-07 13:26|| Front Page Top

#6 Rantburg it’s starting to smell like Europa
This rag smell like fake nationalist and fake American patriotism
Fuck you fake news rantburg
Hey link more British tabloid trash for your readers……
Pathetic….

Posted by Rinaldeddu 2022-04-07 13:38|| 2022-04-07 13:38|| Front Page Top

#7 This isn't from a British tabloid. Do you want to talk about the article or just leave turds all over the place?

Also, what were yoou expecting American nationalism to look like? "Yay! Let's help the Superior Russians massacre more untermenchen!"?

Y'all have been using the global left to make war against us for the past thirty years (and still counting) but you want to be able to cosplay fighting the people who would rather buy natural gas from Russia than drill for it here.

If I wanted to be watching the World Wrestling Federation I'd be watching the World Wresstling Federation.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-04-07 13:50|| 2022-04-07 13:50|| Front Page Top

#8 Dale,

Let me respectfully disagree with you. Putin would be far from the first despot to think he could save his own hide by inviting in somebody to help him.

One example from classical antiquity: Vortigern inviting in Hengist and Horsa. How did that work out?

(And don't even get started with Constantinople and the Normans. Or how they used the Venetians to help defend against the Normans when their relationship went bad. Or what the Venetians ultimately did once they were betrayed in kind.)

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-04-07 13:54|| 2022-04-07 13:54|| Front Page Top

#9 All I see in this is a propaganda piece. China is kept at arms length. Putin knows not to trust China. Only Russian Elites retain patriotism is way off the mark. How patriot are our elites?. I don't see that at all these days.

Putin was apparently anxious enough about China's support to delay the invasion until the Olympics was done. Then their offensive in the North got completely stalled because the frozen ground thawed for a while in the beginning of March.

Of course now they're saying "Oh, that was a _feint_ we threw thousands of soldiers and a 40 mile long convoy away on..."

Which brings up another thing.... if I had 200 billion dollars in the bank, _personally_, I'd buy much better tires for my Army. I'd splurge on Michelins.

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-04-07 14:11|| 2022-04-07 14:11|| Front Page Top

#10 There are many who see the Russian underperformance as good for China.

There are many reasons why China is probably unhappy with this underperformance.

- some Chinese military equipment are copies of Russian equipment and thus may perform as badly in a hot conflict

- the price of oil, which the Chinese import a lot, has been driven sky high

- the price of various food products the Chinese import is also being driven way up

Posted by Lord Garth 2022-04-07 15:25|| 2022-04-07 15:25|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm imagining Mandarin Patron Xi saying "I don't do favors, Vlad. I collect debts. Capiche?"

Posted by Thing From Snowy Mountain 2022-04-07 18:42|| 2022-04-07 18:42|| Front Page Top

#12 The Chinee stole Russian jet engine designs and have almost gotten them to last about 1/10 as long as ours do. So, when Xi says "what have you done for us lately?" he's being very trenchant.

Posted by M. Murcek 2022-04-07 18:44|| 2022-04-07 18:44|| Front Page Top

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