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2010-04-03 Britain

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Posted by Anonymoose 2010-04-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11137 views ] Top

#1 Is that a photo of the last primates' meeting? Rowan's the beta-chimp with the beard, I take it...

Posted by lex 2010-04-03 03:49|| 2010-04-03 03:49|| Front Page Top

#2 Dr Williams also reveals on the BBC Radio 4 programme Start the Week that he is withholding his blessing from Anglicans who choose to take advantage of the Pope's offer of a special home in the Catholic Church for disaffected Anglicans.

Oh, dear. Next thing you know, he's gonna defriend them on Facebook!

Posted by Cornsilk Blondie 2010-04-03 08:53|| 2010-04-03 08:53|| Front Page Top

#3 Considering that Benedict XVI has tried to poach a significant chunk of Williams' flock it wouldn't normally be that surprising that there was some sort of a response. In a way its quite impressive that the Pope has managed to piss off Williams to such an extent that this rather effete, woolly creature has seemingly grown some venom glands.
With respect to the loss of credibility by the Irish Church, in the wake of the Ryan & Murphy reports & the relevations about Sean Brady, then I think that's nothing but the truth. Considering how verbose Williams is its not that amazing if he comes out with the truth once in a while. Also worth bearing in mind that despite the man's verbosity & doziness he's yet to compare the state of being appalled at the antics of men like Bernard Law with that of being an active anti-Semite.

Posted by Bill Spulet5498 2010-04-03 09:10|| 2010-04-03 09:10|| Front Page Top

#4
...he damns the Catholic Church in Ireland as having lost all credibility.

Pots, kettles, etc.

Posted by Parabellum 2010-04-03 09:42|| http://sidemeat.wordpress.com/ 2010-04-03 09:42|| Front Page Top

#5 Rowan is a little pink mousey eating at a saucer of vanilla pablum.

The Catholic Church has been around for how many Centuries now? About 19 or twenty? Survived about 16 centuries of Heresies, about 800 years of Religious wars, Galileo, the Inquisition, Plagues, Famines.... and now bum groping Queers.

Its still here and numbers in the sheer Billions.

Somehow, I dont think its going to fold up and sink anytime soon. A year from now ask Andy Warhol if ten or 15 minutes is a long or a short time for a news item. Six weeks from now its page sixteen for just about everything you see today.

Am I lyin' to 'ya?

The Pope will get up tomorrow morning and there will still be a lot of people out there who hate what he says before he says it, and hate what he does because its always the same and probably wont change much in the next Thousand years , and hate what he stands for because they would like to have his silk hat and fancy shoes themselves.

Lost credibility? Just tuck into the back of any quiet Cathedral and listen to the Silence and look at the flickering candles in the corner and the old women lighting them...go over and ask one of them what she thinks about the latest Scandal. Go on, ask her.

Go to any Monastery out in the boonies on a side road and ask any Monk in the Cloister ( yeah they still have places like that..surprised?)what he thinks. See it they all are lined up to take you seriously. Go ring the bell in some musty Convent vestibule and shuffle past the Holy Card rack and ask to see the Mother Superior to get her views. See if she is really giving a fly f*uck for your shocked and appalled perspective.

And the little Nun in the Kitchen who is stacking and wrapping Cheese...ask her for her Opinion. Look at her face when she goes "Huh".

yeah, I dont think the Catholic Church is lurching toward Doom because some bushey eye-browed Mick or some hash mark in his shorts German plays with juniors peter in the Confessional.

Happens every day, Hello. It will happen tomorrow and it happened yesterday and it will happen a hundred years from now. And Junior, well, Junior will live and learn. And he will grow up to be as bad as the rest of us too. We all have it coming, kiddies, none of us is fit to do much but carry a knife even on the best of days. Its the world we made because its made of us. Your grandmother gave a mean blowjob...trust me.

Posted by Blackbart 2010-04-03 09:58|| 2010-04-03 09:58|| Front Page Top

#6 "God bless them. I don't," he says, witheringly.

When did Rowan Williams get religion?

Posted by ed 2010-04-03 10:06|| 2010-04-03 10:06|| Front Page Top

#7 I read an article yesterday that said that statistically, the Catholic church has a significantly smaller problem with priestly attacks on children and teens than does the American public school system. I don't mean to excuse the behaviour, but a little perspective is in order.

This is a witch hunt by the newsies trying to blacken a major opponent of the health care bill in the U.S. ... and just a favoured target in Europe.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-04-03 12:21|| 2010-04-03 12:21|| Front Page Top

#8 I read an article yesterday that said that statistically, the Catholic church has a significantly smaller problem with priestly attacks on children and teens than does the American public school system. I don't mean to excuse the behaviour, but a little perspective is in order.
But the issue isn't that a few pedophiles & predatory 'lifters managed to get ordained. It would be unfair & unreasonable to assume that seminaries could detect 100% of potential offenders. What is a 'cause for concern' is that in too many cases when the proclivities of these individuals came to light their superiors (the Laws & Comiskeys & Cormac Murphy-O'Connors of this world) chose to, in effect, protect the offenders & allow them access to more potential victims. I mean how many times was the infamous John 'effective life of ministry' Geoghan moved onto fresh parishes after parents had caught him molesting their kids?
I'm not sure how this whole sorry saga can be tied in any way to Obamacare - this has been running for a good few years now, Cardinal Law finally managed to resign in 2002, Murphy-O'Connor 'fessed up to letting a known molester continue with his ministry back in 2000, the Murhy report into the 'issues' of the Dublin diocese came out last year as did the Ryan report into the less savoury aspects of Ireland's Industrial Schools. The abuse scandals in Ireland have been newsworthy at least since 1994 & the whole Brendan Smyth fiasco.

Posted by Bill Spulet5498 2010-04-03 15:33|| 2010-04-03 15:33|| Front Page Top

#9 What Bill said. It's the coverup (and the reassignment of criminal rapists so that they could rape again, and again and again) that's appalling. And no, I'm not a Catholic-hater (my aunt was a nun), just someone who cares about major institutions observing the law where felonies are concerned.

Posted by lex 2010-04-03 16:45|| 2010-04-03 16:45|| Front Page Top

#10 agree with Bill and Lex, and yes, I am a Catholic. Should've drummed those priests with credible evidence against them out and reported them as criminal offenders. No excuse. None.

Posted by Frank G 2010-04-03 17:34|| 2010-04-03 17:34|| Front Page Top

#11 I'm not arguing that it's ok. What we're talking about is typical organizational behaviour; unfortunately, protecting the organization at the expense of the victim is the instinctual response. The thing is, the American public schools -- and the Boy Scouts, and juvenile prisons, and no doubt other organizations that work with children and teens in quantity -- they all have the problem, and they all cover it up... But on a percentage basis the Catholic church has fewer bad apples than the others, which is seriously counter-intuitive.

Posted by trailing wife 2010-04-03 17:53|| 2010-04-03 17:53|| Front Page Top

#12 Agreed, but those are not religious/ethical/moral teaching enterprises as a basis for existence. Especially not the public schools

Posted by Frank G 2010-04-03 17:57|| 2010-04-03 17:57|| Front Page Top

#13 I agree, Frank. But TW has an important point: the poisonous tone of the coordinated series of articles on this in pretty much every major paper here during Holy Week came of the heels of publicly expressed fury against the Catholic hierarchy for its stance on abortion and the health care bill.

Not a chance in H3ll that that's a coincidence.

Posted by lotp 2010-04-03 19:24|| 2010-04-03 19:24|| Front Page Top

#14 Hope it all backfires on them like thier recent attepts at pounding Toyota. Toyota led industry sales last month. Keep in mind also, we now have our first bowing Muslim president. Why would we expect anything good to be said about any facet of Christendom.

Posted by Besoeker 2010-04-03 19:31|| 2010-04-03 19:31|| Front Page Top

#15 lotp - no doubt an agenda was picked for holy week...

Posted by Frank G 2010-04-03 19:54|| 2010-04-03 19:54|| Front Page Top

#16 So this is the monkey that is advocated
universal Sharia law for England!!!

Funny, this quasi-mollah never mention the
thousands of dieing little girls filling
the hospitals in Teheran, consequences
of forced sexual relations with adults,
often by the Mollahs Willian the creep love so much...

The big problem of the Catholic Church is
that they tried too much to appease the
leftist sodomite lobby, now they are paying for it.

Yes there was a large minority of katamite
molesters in the church.

They are today the one leading the assault
on the church, now militant anti-clericals,
the same sodomites are condemning what
they elsewhere advocate, children molestation,
consequence of same sex marriage and adoption
of children by sexual perverts.

Posted by Hotspur666 2010-04-03 23:40|| 2010-04-03 23:40|| Front Page Top

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