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2006-04-03 India-Pakistan
Lack of women turns tables on India’s suitable boys
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Posted by Fred 2006-04-03 00:00|| || Front Page|| [11135 views since 2007-05-07]  Top

#1 ...and these primitives took over the world software industry?
Posted by Skidmark 2006-04-03 00:59||   2006-04-03 00:59|| Front Page Top

#2 ..and these primitives took over the world software industry?

Look at how lousy Microsoft is, and they're the leader in the US.

This suggests that quality doesn't have much to do with market dominance.
Posted by Abdominal Snowman 2006-04-03 01:27||   2006-04-03 01:27|| Front Page Top

#3 “There are no girls. If there is one in a house, the father is like a king. He can demand anything...”

Econ 101...
Posted by PBMcL 2006-04-03 01:29||   2006-04-03 01:29|| Front Page Top

#4 This is becoming a problem in China too. One discordant note to the schadenfreude here is that the traditional method of redressing the balance by reducing the number of males is war.
Posted by RWV 2006-04-03 01:34||   2006-04-03 01:34|| Front Page Top

#5 Is anyone else having problems telling Joe from LTD?
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-04-03 08:07|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-04-03 08:07|| Front Page Top

#6 Well, Joe's got that crazy sense of hourmor thing going.
Posted by 6 2006-04-03 10:54||   2006-04-03 10:54|| Front Page Top

#7 Once again, basic market economics.
Posted by anonymous2u 2006-04-03 11:25||   2006-04-03 11:25|| Front Page Top

#8 But now the absence of girls is changing village dynamics, the newspaper said. “There are no girls. If there is one in a house, the father is like a king. He can demand anything,” said Prahland Singh, the head of Bhorki village in Rajasthan. He said that around 30 families had carried out marriages under the swap system in the village of 3,000 people in the last two years. The report said that dowry, where traditionally a bride’s father had to bestow riches on a groom to secure a marriage, has completely disappeared from many

I predicted that this would happen about 6 years ago to my boys' daycare provider: this imbalance has come about via selective abortion.

Glad to see that the dowery is becoming a thing of the past. The next step is now a REVERSE dowery: "You want my daughter? Fine, here's what I want."

Taking care of excess boys via war OVER THERE isn't a problem with me OVER HERE: I recall that India and Pakistan and China are near neighbors, so let the excess boys kill off the excess boys.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-04-03 11:26|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-04-03 11:26|| Front Page Top

#9 The invisible hand job at work.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-03 11:27||   2006-04-03 11:27|| Front Page Top

#10 I agree with Ptah on this one. China sees itself as a world player, so plans for war with the U.S. But it will have to deal with its problems with India before it can look further beyond its borders. On the other hand, I suspect, because it's further along in rationalizing its economy, that it has a lot more excess males of a suitable age to dispose of.
Posted by trailing wife 2006-04-03 11:51||   2006-04-03 11:51|| Front Page Top

#11 Is anyone else having problems telling Joe from LTD?

RC, did you mean "Joe from LTD" or "Joe on LSD?
Posted by Zenster 2006-04-03 12:49||   2006-04-03 12:49|| Front Page Top

#12 The Chinese leadership knows they are a regional power at best for the next 50 years. They can only appear to punch above their weight because the Americans have such defensive public diplomacy. If we were at all aggressive, they would appear the paper tiger they are.
Posted by Nimble Spemble 2006-04-03 12:55||   2006-04-03 12:55|| Front Page Top

#13 "LTD"=>"Listens to Dogs".

Joe sounds like a wild man on drugs, but he's a PATRIOTIC wild man on drugs. Look for posts spouting lefty cliches: OUR Joe doesn't do Lefty, and he's the antithesis of "cliche".
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-04-03 13:05|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-04-03 13:05|| Front Page Top

#14 he's the antithesis of "cliche".

And coherence.
Posted by Robert Crawford">Robert Crawford  2006-04-03 13:08|| http://www.kloognome.com/]">[http://www.kloognome.com/]  2006-04-03 13:08|| Front Page Top

#15 "and these primitives took over the world software industry?"

Rajastan has no software industry to speak of. Most of India's high tech is in the south, where sex ratios are more normal. To best understand India, think of it as a sub-continent rather than as just a country. It has as much linguistic and general cultural diversity as Europe. Parts of India was doing very well -- others are not.
Posted by  pagan infidel 2006-04-03 13:38||   2006-04-03 13:38|| Front Page Top

#16 And coherence.

Which was my point in general, in a backhanded snarky sort of way.
Posted by Zenster 2006-04-03 14:13||   2006-04-03 14:13|| Front Page Top

#17 #15: And coherence.

Yeah. that too, RC.
Posted by Ptah">Ptah  2006-04-03 14:14|| http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]">[http://www.crusaderwarcollege.org]  2006-04-03 14:14|| Front Page Top

#18 "Joe sounds like a wild man on drugs, but he's a PATRIOTIC wild man on drugs"

well i can tell you from the other side, having wild men on drugs on your side aint no blessing.
Posted by liberalhawk 2006-04-03 14:16||   2006-04-03 14:16|| Front Page Top

#19 I really like Joe and I sometimes think I somehow understand deep things in his rants. No, really.
Posted by anonymous5089 2006-04-03 15:17||   2006-04-03 15:17|| Front Page Top

#20 When I start to feel that way 5089 I fire up the expresso machine.
Posted by 6 2006-04-03 16:25||   2006-04-03 16:25|| Front Page Top

#21 Dowry is being kept alive by another factor - Caste.

Many rural families will pay handsomely to marry their daughter into a higher caste.

But economic growth, rapid urbanization, selective abortion and the laws of supply and demand will all ensure that dowry customs and the low status of women will change.

As for the excess males.. there are a few parts of India where Polyandry is the norm - one female - several husbands.
There are reports from villages (where this custom was never practised) of several brothers now sharing one wife.

Then there is war. The Indian army has always been an all volunteer force. With the various insurgencies around the Indian countryside, this large reserve of manpower might be useful against maoists, seperatists, jihadists and regular Pakistani troops.

It works the other way of course. The jihad in Kashmir, planned in Pakistan during the tail end of the Afghan campaign, coincided with a surplus of muslim males in Jammu and Kashmir.

The majority of those who volunteered to fight the Indian state, who boarded minibuses with conductors shouting Pindi -- Pindi, destined for the terrorist training camps near Rawalpindi, were killed by the Indian security forces over the next decade.
Now the vast majority of jihadists are Pakistanis.

One advantage the Indian state has had in dealing with insurgency is an unlimited supply of males of fighting age.

Posted by john 2006-04-03 17:18||   2006-04-03 17:18|| Front Page Top

#22 Well, that should help the status of women for a little while. And the survival rate of female fetus' (fetuses, feti?), as well as the reduction in "honour killings".

I fear an increase in paedophilia tho' and rape and all the other ugly, "got no women" islamomacho urges.

Need to send all the youts off to pointless islamo war.
Posted by Thinemp Whimble2412 2006-04-03 18:45||   2006-04-03 18:45|| Front Page Top

#23 Be nice to Joe. He lives on Guam. Anyone who has been there for longer than about 6 months starts to talk like that.
Posted by RWV 2006-04-03 20:44||   2006-04-03 20:44|| Front Page Top

#24 Can't they do arithmetic? Don't they want grandchildren?
Cordelia Vorkosigan.
Posted by gromgoru 2006-04-03 22:18||   2006-04-03 22:18|| Front Page Top

#25 India isn't exactly running out of population quite yet .....
Posted by lotp 2006-04-03 22:19||   2006-04-03 22:19|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-04-03 02:57||   2006-04-03 02:57|| Front Page Top

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Posted by Listen to Dogs 2006-04-03 18:46||   2006-04-03 18:46|| Front Page Top

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