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2007-03-31 India-Pakistan

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Posted by John Frum 2007-03-31 00:00|| || Front Page|| [1 views since 2007-05-07] Top

#1 This article displeases Allah.

Posted by Sneaze 2007-03-31 03:45|| 2007-03-31 03:45|| Front Page Top

#2 Gen Pervez Musharraf's Western suits, public advocacy of 'moderation' and the fact that he keeps a dog as a pet ...

So, when they call Musharraf a Western lackey and running dog, they actually do mean it.

The Pakistani identity is based on irreducible opposites, an adversarial ideology that initially saw the Hindu as the enemy, but that has thereafter added a multiplicity of 'hostile others' - Ahmedias, Shias, internal regional minorities, the West - in its expanding circle of strife. Much of the violence in the South Asian region - and indeed, a large proportion of Islamist terrorism across the world - finds its roots in this psyche, rather than in any concrete and coherent strategic objectives or interests. Unless the institutional basis of this ideology, the power structure and sections of society that have historically profited from it, are dismantled, Pakistan's pathologies will continue to compound themselves, only occasionally tempered by objective external circumstances and a loss of capacities.

That one paragraph locks down just about all the main points about Pakistan. Like the deteriorating downward spiral of a pathological paranoiac, Pakistan's circle of perceived enemies slowly widens to engulf the entire outside world.

Posted by Zenster">Zenster 2007-03-31 04:09|| 2007-03-31 04:09|| Front Page Top

#3 The depth to which these elements have become rooted in the institutional, political and social structures in Pakistan is seldom understood by outsiders, who think they can tweak the system here and there - a little madarsa reform, a few hundred million in 'development' aid - and secure the transformation of Pakistan's historical pathologies into a modern and functioning democracy. Unfortunately, the reality of Pakistan is that it cannot lend itself to incremental reform

Posted by John Frum 2007-03-31 07:36|| 2007-03-31 07:36|| Front Page Top

#4 "You may belong to any religion, caste or creed, that has nothing to do with the business of the state... in due course of time Hindus will cease to be Hindus and Muslims will cease to be Muslims - not in a religious sense for that is the personal faith of an individual - but in a political sense as citizens of one state..."

Eyewash or did he believe it? If he believed it, then jeeeeebus did he blick things up.

Posted by Shipman">Shipman 2007-03-31 09:08|| 2007-03-31 09:08|| Front Page Top

#5 Pakistan's circle of perceived enemies slowly widens to engulf the entire outside world

Actually, it engulfs everyone not in your immediate clan, and even there your brother's oldest boy is prolly a djinn in disguise...

Posted by Seafarious">Seafarious 2007-03-31 09:39|| 2007-03-31 09:39|| Front Page Top

#6 Despite Pakistan's glaring problems, I was enlightened a while back on the general consensus in India that Pakistan is a "gnat". This prejudice means that they may be too close to the situation to see it clearly.

Personally, I think that long ago, the US convinced Perv that by planning with us, we could develop a mutually desirable situation. It would take years, and would be very gradual, but it would end up with Perv becoming the ruler of his entire country, instead of just the leader of the most powerful faction.

At the same time, we pointed out that his enemies are also our enemies, so that as they lost power, we both gained.

Posted by Anonymoose 2007-03-31 10:17|| 2007-03-31 10:17|| Front Page Top

#7 "Pakistan is a failed idea"

Well duh. The notable thing about Islamic shitholes, generally speaking IMHO, is how they are almost completely self-absorbed. Their hatred of infidels and All Things Non-Islamic is surpassed by their hatred of each other, sect on sect, faction on faction. But nukes set the Pakis apart as an entity which MUST eventually be completely eliminated. Period. Nothing else will ever suffice - and it must be done before they give 'em to every other Muzzy or Enemy of My Enemy who passes their Insanity Muster.

Posted by Punky Crolutch3978 2007-03-31 17:18|| 2007-03-31 17:18|| Front Page Top

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